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The Peter Calabro Hit #809869
10/24/14 03:42 AM
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Hey,

what do you think? Did Richard "The Iceman" Kuklsinski realy the Hit on Peter Calabro for Sammy The Bull?

I read that Kuklinski was in a "Breakfast" Club in Jail and he did the testamony against Gravano as a fevour for the Gambino Guy in hin Club?

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/mob_bosses/gravano/bad_26.html

Two gangsters convicted of murder largely on the word of Salvatore (Sammy Bull) Gravano hope the latest charge against the Mafia turncoat is their ticket out of jail.

Reputed Gambino associate Orazio (Ozzie) Stantini has filed legal papers seeking a review of his conviction because Gravano failed to reveal his role in the 1980 slaying of a rogue city cop.

His co-defendant Robert Bisaccia, a reputed Gambino captain, has joined in the request for an evidentiary hearing in Brooklyn Federal Court.

The two men are the first convicts to claim that their conviction should be thrown out since Gravano was charged by New Jersey authorities last week in the slaying of NYPD Detective Peter Calabro.

Kuklinski is serving a 60-year prison term on four murder convictions. He accepted a plea bargain that calls for him to serve a concurrent 30-year state prison term. He will be sentenced April 11 and will not be eligible for parole until 2046



http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-02-25/news/0302250241_1_salvatore-gravano-gambino-killing

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Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: DBCooper] #809874
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Yeah he said he done that hit on one of them 3 interviews he did you can watch them still on YouTube Kuklinski Died in 2006 he was 70 .

Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: DBCooper] #809888
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Well, anything is possible but it doesn't seem like Kuklinski really had that much contact with connected guys. Why would Sammy hire Kuklinski, who claims he was paid upwards of 50,000 / hit, when he could get someone he knows and trusts for free?

There's pretty good reason to cast doubt on anything Richard kuklinski claimed about being a hired hitman. No doubt he was a sociopath and a murderer, but he's also a pathological liar. He's claimed to have been responsible for the Galante, Castellano, DeMeo and Hoffa hits, too.

Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: DBCooper] #809970
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The detectives on the case said that was BS...I think i remember them saying Calabro's 2 brother in laws killed him but they couldn't prove it !!

Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: DBCooper] #810289
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Quote:
Hey,

what do you think? Did Richard "The Iceman" Kuklsinski realy the Hit on Peter Calabro for Sammy The Bull?


It's possible. Calabro was killed in NJ. Kuklinski was from NJ. People say the accusations against Gravano were baseless embellishment on Kuklinski's part, but the Kuklinski first brought up the topic on HBO (?) not to any prosecutor looking to cut a deal with him, so that doesn't add up.

Calabro is mentioned in Murder Machine as one of the dirty cops working for Roy Demeo. So that is another connection to Demeo that Kuklinski seems to have.

Why is it inconceivable to some that the mafia might use hitmen for hire? Just because they are supposed to be a group of killers themselves means they always have a made man do "the work?? I don't think so. If you go back to the Murder Inc days, you have the "Brownsville boys" being paid retainer, and then per "job"...by the mafia, to do hits.

The mafia is into every illicit trade, even drugs, but not murder for hire? I don't buy that.


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Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: DBCooper] #810425
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Demeo did "murder for hire" BUT largely because the mob guys knew they were dealing with another made guy (Demeo)

Whats the official line on Calabro's murder?
Do the Feds really believe Gravano was the mastermind(if you could call him that) behind it?

Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: GaryH] #810450
10/27/14 03:03 PM
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Quote:
Demeo did "murder for hire" BUT largely because the mob guys knew they were dealing with another made guy (Demeo)


Not sure what you meant to say there.

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Whats the official line on Calabro's murder?
Do the Feds really believe Gravano was the mastermind(if you could call him that) behind it?


I think the one and only thing all the law enforcement officials agree on is that whoever killed Calabro was sent by the family of his wife who died under what they felt were suspicious circumstances.


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Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: Alfa Romeo] #810456
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Originally Posted By: Alfa_Romeo

I think the one and only thing all the law enforcement officials agree on is that whoever killed Calabro was sent by the family of his wife who died under what they felt were suspicious circumstances.


So Calabro killed his wife?


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: Dwalin2011] #810457
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Quote:
So Calabro killed his wife?


That's what the family of Calabro's wife reportedly believed.


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Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: DBCooper] #810458
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http://nypdconfidential.com/columns/2003/030227.html

This article says maybe both Gravano and the wife's family were involved.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: Dwalin2011] #810460
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Quote:
http://nypdconfidential.com/columns/2003/030227.html

This article says maybe both Gravano and the wife's family were involved.


Isn't it ironic that the mafia would be called upon to exact justice against a dirty cop....whose job it was to enforce justice and order.

I know this might sound very twisted, but Sammy Gravano might not be pure evil.


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Re: The Peter Calabro Hit [Re: DBCooper] #1035004
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The harder I look at this case, the more I like Roy DeMeo for the murder. Roy DeMeo, Frank DeCicco and Sammy Gravano were involved in an auto theft ring. In April 1980 the Empire Boulevard Auto theft operation was raided by Newark FBI, 6 months later Calabro, who was part of the NYPD Auto Theft Unit in Flushing, Queens, was murdered in Saddlebrook, N.J. on the way home in a snowstorm. There were 3 investigations into his murder, one by the NYPD IA Division which went to a Brooklyn Grand Jury which failed to return an indictment after looking at Calabro's in laws, the Gentile family whose 2 sons had made threats against Calabro and swore to go to Gravano for revenge. The second investigation was by the Bergen County prosecutor who tried to obtain a search warrant for the Gentile home but was denied by the Brooklyn D.A. The third investigation was after Kuklinski confessed to the murder and implicated Gravano in 2003, apparently Kuklinski provided details previously known only to authorities and was able to convince prosecutors of his guilt but died before he could testify against Gravano.
My premise is that the Gentile family went to Gravano for revenge on the Carmella Gentile Calabro murder in 1977. Calabro was on Roy's payroll for $600 a week, Gravano and DeCicco knew this and after the Empire Boulevard Operation was raided were put on notice by Castellano to be prepared to tie up potential loose ends. After the Gentile family came to Gravano, Calabro's fate was sealed and Gravano gave the hit to Roy as Calabro's handler. Roy summoned Calabro to a meeting by his house in Jersey and ambushed Calabro as he was pulling up, with a shotgun.
Any thoughts on this scenario and if anyone has additional information, I would appreciate their input.

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