I've been thinking about this one for awhile now myself. It definitely would not surprise me and let's not forget there ARE promotions and end of the year bonuses at stake. We all know how far a woman will go to get what they want, don't we?

Where did you find this? How old are you?


No, seriously...

look whos pathetic. begging for you heroes to be on the news.
and I read what you said about Delly. another respected poster who has no agenda and rarely says a bad word about anyone.

pathetic : arousing pity, especially through vulnerability or sadness

look in the mirror some day. you'll see pathetic.

youre just another fag wishing he had enough heart to go out and get it. hows that job at Old Navy? sign anyone up for rewards today? oh thats right i forgot, you got fired from there for robbing old ladies purses. hows it bagging groceries at stop n shop next to the retarded kids?

punk

Cut this shit out NOW!

Don't take the bait, Cheech. He's not long for this board.

And what's sad is, he was caught red handed with two usernames, and he was given another chance because SC took pity on him (and truth be told, people SHOULD get another chance in most cases). But I don't see how Joe Slim/Nice Guy survives this. And if he doesn't, I hope that Big Fella takes heed and realizes that it's his fault for starting this shit.

Bottom line: Don't feed the trolls. Because they never last .

why dont you do something about all the trolls. its out of hand. its why all the best discussions go on across the street.

OK, I just did something. cheech has a vacation. Any other trolls wanna step up too?

Lol...so, is there any restrictions on merlino now that he's going back to jail? Is he free too see anyone he wants until he goes back to jail?

I'm a legit poster that was aggravated at seeing everyone gang up on Bigfella cause he disagreed, so please don't try to get me kicked off.

Looks like he's going back to jail and after that if he's not indicted he'll be free to carry on with whom he pleases.
If you ask me, the guy has some sort of power to come out of jail without a scratch after wars with 2 bosses(Scarfo /stanfa) and into the highlife as he did, and to get some millionaire basically claiming he takes care of you financially...this guys gonna make a lot $$$ if he don't get locked up forever.

Pizza

I ain't got no beef with you, just to be clear with everyone.

You are sharp

Well, if you behave yourself you won't have a problem. And just for the record, when you were caught using the same ip and blamed it on your brother, I actually lobbied for you to get a second chance. So if you'll cut the shit, we can move on.

Back on topic: Have Merlino's lawyers contacted the BOP and let them know when he plans on reporting?

It's forgotten. See my last post.

Moving on . . . .

You have to admit, weather it's good or bad invoking the name of merlino sure gets everyone fired up and that's what we're here for, to have fun, debate and ask questions, nobody in the mafia can stir up the kind of debate that he does, I wonder if merlino will be handing out turkeys this Thanksgiving just to rub thier noses in it

I know this is crazy because it does happen and people are to embarrassed to admit it ... they just plead guilty instead.

That's on par with Gotti's fireworks shows. They were harmless and well intended but they pissed off law enforcement to no end. And look what happened to Gotti.

It's nothing personal. I honestly don't care either way and I only wish jail time on the most violent and unrepentant criminals. But I'm 55 years old, I've been around guys like this all my life, and I know how this movie ends. And if Joey Merlino keeps taunting the Feds the way that John Gotti did, he's going to suffer the same fate. He'll die in a cage.

He should take his money and retire. Truly retire. South Florida is too high profile for him anyway. He should head out west. That's the only area of the country where money allows you to reinvent yourself.

Rattlesnake ranch in Arizona.

Selling second hand furniture by the highway..

*cheesey grin*

All kidding aside, though. Arizona, Nevada, California (as long as it's not the L.A. metro area)---these are areas that allow such a change.

There are retired mob guys in Palm Springs who live like retired corporate big shots. Their past never comes up because they're honestly out of the life. Christ, do you have any idea how many of the old Outfit guys blended into the golf community in Palm Springs over the years?

I don't follow Chicago, but the Westside guys always had a good working relationship with them so I know a little bit about the Palm Springs area. And for the record, that working relationship was a long time ago. But you get what I'm saying.

It's all moot, though. Merlino doesn't strike me as the type who will ever change. Nicky Scarfo Jr. was doomed to his father's fate. I just don't see how Merlino doesn't suffer the fate of his own father (and I only make that analogy because the myth/legend of Joey Merlino seems to have started when he shot that kid).

No arguing or pissing contest here at all. We have to get past that or this is another thread that will get locked. But my personal opinion is that the Feds are not done with Joey Merlino yet, and that they'll eventually put him away for a very long time. But time---and time alone---will tell.

Where does Staino fit in when he gets out? Seems like h was more Ligambi's guy and is he tight with Merlin and his crew?

Pizza merlino faced all the same stuff his father faced but beat it so he was real close to having the same exact fate,,but luck was on his side so the government can't retry him on them murders and the guy hasn't picked up a gun since the 90s, so what do you think they will get him on?

I really believe merlino crew calls the shots but staino been around a long time and I think there faction except massimino understand joey n his boys are the captains of the ship. They call the shots bottom line!!

But so what rank will Staino have possily upon return you think?

Here's what I think: If he's still in the game, he's gonna get caught. If he's out, he should be okay (unless Canalichio and Nicodemo both flip, which I doubt will happen).

He should really quit the life and move somewhere where there's less media. If he doesn't, I think the Feds will go after him with the same zeal they went after Gotti with. And I honestly hope he quits the life. But I wouldn't hold my breath.

My two cents.

That's not entirely true. If the Feds can tie it into a RICO they can basically try him for the same murders that he was acquitted of. Look at Bobby Vernace here in New York. He just got something like twenty years on a murder that he beat back in the '90s. The Feds found new witnesses, trumped up a bullshit RICO charge, and tried him again.

You can also use Tommy Gioeli and Little Dino as another example. They beat the worst of the charges and still got what will probably amount to life because they were found guilty of the RICO charges.

Now I'm NOT saying it's right, because it isn't. It's a way to get around double jeopardy as only the Feds can. But I'm a realist, and when I look at this realistically I just don't think they're ever going to give this guy any peace.

While I don't know details of specific cases discussed here, in my opinion the double jeopardy rule isn't so much about helping innocent people not to be continuously harassed by police, as it is about helping bastards to get off the hook and laugh at justice. I mean, if you get real PROOF, even too late, that the guy is guilty, is it right that he can't be thrown into jail just because the first trial let him off?

I mean, look at the Pizzolungo massacre in Sicily in 1985 where a mother with two 6-year-old children were blown to pieces with a bomb. The hitmen who did it were acquitted. Later, there was new evidence the police got the right people. But they couldn't be tried again because of "inconstitutional" nonsense, "double jeopardy" etc. So the child murdering scumbags got off. The only consolation is that 2 of them were killed anyway later and the 3d is serving life for another murder.

Wasn't staino involved with the unions before ligambi becamed boss?

Yes

He was a local 54 guy, I think a BA and was approved by scarfo. So, he was likely involved in union corruption. But that union went down in like 1990 so neither Ligambi or merlino had any benefit to his union ties.

From the people who got popped with the meth in the mid-80s, it seems that mousie came into the mobs orbit thru Ralph staino.

So I believe he will still have a place in the mob if he wants it, I would make him a capo then send him to florida to watch over operations

But so what rank will Staino have possily upon return you think?[/quote

Remember he has the 3 yr S.R like the other guys, really guys like him got bumped up cause all the other guys were down, so I'd have to say he would just fall into line if merlino n them are still free, but if there's another indictment then I can see him holding some rank.