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did albert anastasia have arnold shuster killed. #802387
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did albert Anastasia really have Arnold Schuster killed? {Schuster being the man who saw willie Sutton on the street, and alerted the fbi] who arrested him, Sutton was wanted for bank robbery and escape, the man who killed shuster was a former cellmate of Sutton in federal prison, Frederick tenuto who was a made guy in alberts family,} did tenuto do it on his own? because of his friendship with Sutton, or is it true that Anastasia saw Schuster on tv and went on a rant "kill him, kill him." valachi says in his book it happened this way, but,maybe tenuto did it on his own. he was dead, hit himself soon after.



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Re: did albert anastasia have arnold shuster killed. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #802456
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It is what they said on the Mobster's Documentary....I am sure it is true because we all know that almost all killings come from the top.

So much for mob protocol that, "We only kill our own!"

I was actually gonna start a post up questioning how many time the mafia has violated this rule......And when I saw mafia, I am only referring to the American mafia because I have heard that the Italians will wipe out your wife, kids and Kibbles the dog.

Tommy Pitera whacked Phyllis Burdi (I was curious how Eddie Lino reacted to it afterwards or was he also afraid of Tommy?)

Re: did albert anastasia have arnold shuster killed. [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #802457
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Given the circumstances, I don't think any made guy would begrudge Pitera his revenge on Burdi.

Re: did albert anastasia have arnold shuster killed. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #802566
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Italian irish mix, I think you have a great idea about a post referring to how many innocent victims were murdered, I think it would shock some people to know how many innocent women were slaughtered. over many years I imagine the number to be in the thousands men and women,"we only kill are own" has always been a myth. those murdering dogs had no rules.



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That's what Joe Valachi said and a few capo's in other families hinted at Anastasia ordering the hit, not knowning that they were being taped in the early 1960's by the FBI. So there is some evidence that Albert was behind the Shuster killing.


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Re: did albert anastasia have arnold shuster killed. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #803355
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Did not know that tenuto was suttons cellmate. That changes my outlook on valachis story. Maybe tenuto told Albert the story then the mad hatter raged out and told tenuto he could kill him. Tenuto def had more to do with it than just carrying out a contract and getting whacked for just following orders

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yeah, that was my point, tenuto was suttons cellmate im not sure where. had to be federal joint, but the point is maybe Anastasia wasn't that crazy after all, maybe tenuto did it on his own and Anastasia had him hit for it. seems a stretch a boss would order a hit on a pants salesman. I think there is a misconception here.



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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
yeah, that was my point, tenuto was suttons cellmate im not sure where. had to be federal joint, but the point is maybe Anastasia wasn't that crazy after all, maybe tenuto did it on his own and Anastasia had him hit for it. seems a stretch a boss would order a hit on a pants salesman. I think there is a misconception here.

They were in eastern state penitentiary in Philly together which is supposed to be a state prison but even Al Capone did time there so I always wondered if maybe it was used as a federal prison at one time but I'm not sure.

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Capone did time there cuz he went to Philly and purposely got arrested on a gun charge so that his name would cool down in Chicago. Was supposedly told to do it by Luciano and others during an atlantic city conference

Re: did albert anastasia have arnold shuster killed. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #804118
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
did albert Anastasia really have Arnold Schuster killed? {Schuster being the man who saw willie Sutton on the street, and alerted the fbi] who arrested him, Sutton was wanted for bank robbery and escape, the man who killed shuster was a former cellmate of Sutton in federal prison, Frederick tenuto who was a made guy in alberts family,} did tenuto do it on his own? because of his friendship with Sutton, or is it true that Anastasia saw Schuster on tv and went on a rant "kill him, kill him." valachi says in his book it happened this way, but,maybe tenuto did it on his own. he was dead, hit himself soon after.



We will never know because it's been 60 years and both Anastasia and Tenuto are long dead. Maybe Albert spread the word that Shuster was to be killed, and Tenuto as Sutton's former cellmate felt he should do it? Or maybe Tenuto did it on his own? Lots of guys were killed back then, so no way to know for sure why Tenuto was killed.


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