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Same blood family - different borgata's #799812
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The DiNapoli brothers came up in a recent thread and got yours to thinking as one brother is Luchesse and two West Side.

Please add below other examples of immediate male family members (fathers/sons, brothers etc) who though of the same blood family, joined different borgata's.

Please also include the reasons for this. (If known)

Im interested in the list we compile.

So -

1. The DiNapoli brothers
Joseph - Lucchese
Vincent, Louis - Genovese

2. Baudanza's
Joseph Baudanza - (Father) Columbo (Capo)
John baudanza - (Son) Lucchese soldier

Edit: 3. Scarfo's (Shoutout to PB)
Nicodemo Scarfo - (Father) Bruno
Nicky Scarfo - (Son) Lucchese

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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799814
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Nick Vitulli (who died a few years ago) was a Genovese soldier up in Yonkers forever. I think he was even acting captain for Larry Black for awhile. Anyway, Nick's son Rocky (no one calls him Rocco, no one) is a Lucchese soldier.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: pizzaboy] #799819
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Philly's not my area of expertise, Sonny. But don't forget the Scarfos.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799820
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Toto' Riina was from the Palermo province, but his brother Gaetano belonged to the Mazara del Vallo family in the Trapani province.

Giuseppe Bono was the boss of the Bolognetta family (Palermo province) while his brother Alfredo was in the San Giuseppe Jato family in the same province.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: Dwalin2011] #799822
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Toto' Riina was from the Palermo province, but his brother Gaetano belonged to the Mazara del Vallo family in the Trapani province.

Giuseppe Bono was the boss of the Bolognetta family (Palermo province) while his brother Alfredo was in the San Giuseppe Jato family in the same province.

That's interesting, Dwalin. I was just going to ask you or Carmela if it was as common over there as it is over here. I'd think not, but I'm happy to stand corrected.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799845
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San Jose Members

Vito Adragna- Father Frank and brother George were made in Pittsburgh family.

Joseph Chiri- Brother Salvatore made in the Genovese crime family.

Emanuele Figlia- Father Vincenzo was made in the Profaci crime family.

Angelo Marino- Father Salvatore was made in the Pittsburgh family.

Peter Misuraca- Brothers John and Artie were both made in the Profaci crime family.

Joseph Misuraca- Brother Vincenzo was made in the New Orleans family.

Joseph Vicari- Father John was made in the New Orleans family.

San Francisco Members

James Franzone- Brother Angelo made in Chicago family.

Gregory Genovese- Father Joseph was made in the Bonanno crime family.

Epifanio Trafficante- Brother Santo Trafficante Snr. was made in the Tampa family.

Giacomo Trifiro- Brother Guiseppe was made in the Cleveland family.

Los Angeles Members

Joseph Bello- Father Antonio was made in the Bonanno crime family.

Dominic Brooklier- Brother Joseph was made in the Detroit family

Carmine Carpinelli- Brother Ralph was made in the Cleveland family.

Thomas Gambino- Father Rosario made man in Sicilian mafia.

Salvatore Giglio- Father Salvatore Snr was made in the Bonanno crime family.

Milano brothers- Father Antonio was made in the Cleveland crime family.

Moceri brothers- Brother Joseph was made in the Detroit crime family.

The Sciortino family was entrenched in all three California families. There are many uncles, nephews, and cousins that were in different families, the list can go on.

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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799866
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GREAT post Giacomo!

Brilliant info. Very interesting.

Much appreciated.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799872
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Former Chicago boss Sam Carlisi's brother Roy was underboss in the Buffalo family for several years.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799873
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Joseph Scalleat was made in the Bruno family and his brother Albert was made in the Bufalino family

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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: Dwalin2011] #799877
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Toto' Riina was from the Palermo province, but his brother Gaetano belonged to the Mazara del Vallo family in the Trapani province.


No no. Gaetano took over when Toto' was captured. Gaetano was captured in Mazara del Vallo because that's where he was hiding out while running the Corleone family.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799884
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The DiNapoli brothers made it to the top of their respective families imagine the power these guys have in the underworld

Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799892
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I doubt they intentionally joined different Borgatas. The Mafia chooses you, you don't choose the Mafia. Therefore I think that these groupings or pairings of brothers ended up in different families because the Capos and Bosses of those families didn't want any junta forming within their ranks. If you have all the brothers and cousins being made into the same family, you create a potentially dangerous situation for yourself if you are a boss because you are essentially creating a mafia family WITHIN a mafia family. Case in point, the Gottis. Very bad for Castellano.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #800033
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Some of these were intentional as to form a sort of alliance without the use of marriage between two families. Others were associates that were loyal to a certain member of their crime family that decided to relocate to another city and followed them. Others were offered a chance to join another family that need members that were viewed dependable and had a high chance of being made in that family cause of who their fathers, uncles, brothers or cousins were.

Welcome to the boards Alfa Romeo. What you described above is what has happened to the Detroit crime family with the exception of any dangerous situation for that family's leadership.

There is also members in the American LCN who have family members that are made in Italy and Sicily as well.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: Alfa Romeo] #800034
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Originally Posted By: Alfa_Romeo
If you have all the brothers and cousins being made into the same family, you create a potentially dangerous situation for yourself if you are a boss because you are essentially creating a mafia family WITHIN a mafia family. Case in point, the Gottis. Very bad for Castellano.

What you post is not without merit. But the Gottis under Castellano aren't the best example because only Gene and John were made at that time. Pete was a brokester on an early garbage pension, and Junior was still pushing fifty dollar bags of quinine cut blow to high school kids.


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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #800036
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Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari


There is also members in the American LCN who have family members that are made in Italy and Sicily as well.


Yes. For instance, Frank Cali is a Gambino member made in US. Giovanni and Giuseppe Gambino are made into the Gambino family. Now, Rosario is a member of a family from Torretta, and never made in the Gambino family.


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Thank you carmela, it slipped my mind on Rosario, since it has been well documented about the sitdown between Gotti and Scarfo over Rosario. I'll make the correction.


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Sam Carlisi (boss of chicago) had a brother who was a capo in Buffalo

Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #800059
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Vincent Palermo of the DeCavalcante family brother Pasquale is made in the Colombo family. Joseph Lolordo had a brother who was made in the Chicago family and Jerry Perrone has a son who is made in the Genovese family.


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Angelo lonardo cleveland , brother Dominic lonardo buffalo

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Re: Same blood family - different borgata's [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #800070
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The ciancaglini brothers were in the same family but different sides during the stanfa / Merlino war , there was even rumours they were shooting at each other aswel

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Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
Thank you carmela, it slipped my mind on Rosario, since it has been well documented about the sitdown between Gotti and Scarfo over Rosario. I'll make the correction.


Make the correction where? I don't even see where you talked about the family.

edit: never mind, I just saw your list above.


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Quote:
The ciancaglini brothers were in the same family but different sides during the stanfa / Merlino war , there was even rumours they were shooting at each other aswel


Speaking of the Ciancaglini situation, it makes perfect sense to ask close friends to whack the other, or even real blood family to whack their own blood relations because then you can see what side the hitter is on. If they back out of the hit, or if the mark disappears for some reason, you know you gotta whack em both.


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Welcome to the boards Alfa Romeo.


Thanks Giacomo

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What you post is not without merit. But the Gottis under Castellano aren't the best example because only Gene and John were made at that time. Pete was a brokester on an early garbage pension, and Junior was still pushing fifty dollar bags of quinine cut blow to high school kids.


Understood PizzaBoy.


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