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When Crime Does Pay?? #798808
08/28/14 04:04 AM
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Name active made guys who are 60+ who have done little or no jail time despite a life in OC.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #798811
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Carlo Gambino. Tony Accardo. Paul Castellano. Just to name a few.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: PetroPirelli] #798816
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Originally Posted By: PetroPirelli
Carlo Gambino. Tony Accardo. Paul Castellano. Just to name a few.


Sorry man meant current active guys.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #798820
08/28/14 04:28 AM
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Oh shit. I didn't even see that. My bad Scarf.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #798821
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Its a hard one to find many in this day and age I think!

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #798827
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Neil Migliore, John DiFronzo, Joe Andriacchi.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) “You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) “Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We’re not giving you anything.”
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #798828
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That is true Scarfo and I agree Dwalin.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #798924
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Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #798927
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Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: PetroPirelli] #798985
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Originally Posted By: PetroPirelli
Carlo Gambino. Tony Accardo. Paul Castellano. Just to name a few.


I think castellano did do some time when he was younger. Besides, I rather do 3 or 4 years in the can instead of ending up like castellano.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: StLguy] #799017
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Originally Posted By: StLguy
I think castellano did do some time when he was younger.

He did a year for contempt of court.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: pizzaboy] #799060
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: StLguy
I think castellano did do some time when he was younger.

He did a year for contempt of court.


That's right. May have done more if he wasn't wacked.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: pizzaboy] #799071
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
He did a year for contempt of court.


Castellano also did 5-6 months in 1934 at age 19. He and two friends held up a clothing store in Connecticut and got away with $51. A passer-by happened to see Castellano pulling a gun out of his glove box and reported the license plate to authorities. He was promptly picked up and arrested once he returned to New York.

Never knew about it until I started reading "Boss of Bosses" recently. It's a book about Castellano that was written by FBI agents Joe O'Brien and Andy Kurins, who were part of the FBI's Gambino Squad in the 1980's.

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Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: K1NG6] #799074
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Originally Posted By: K1NG6
Never knew about it until I started reading "Boss of Bosses" recently. It's a book about Castellano that was written by FBI agents Joe O'Brien and Andy Kurins, who were part of the FBI's Gambino Squad in the 1980's.

I've read it more than once, which is rare for me because most mob bios are poorly written. There's a lot of bullshit about how they actually wired the house up. But the book itself was VERY well written.

Their ghostwriter on that project was Laurence Shames. He's a wonderful novelist. After he finished "Boss of Bosses," he used that research to write a series of comic crime novels set in Key West, Florida. If you enjoy comic crime fiction (like Elmore Leonard, Carl Hiaasen, et al.), you'll enjoy Shames.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799075
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Do they have to be made? I know some people American and Chinese in the heroin business who never did any major jail time and lived to be old farts.


only the unloved hate
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: pizzaboy] #799076
08/28/14 07:06 PM
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I always wondered exactly about that story, PB. I've seen other mob shows/documentaries, where other agents/LE give differing opinions from the book of how Castellano's house was really bugged. I think I've read or heard about 3-4 different stories of exactly how it went down and who was involved. In the book I think O'Brien and Kurins say that they were actually the ones who bugged it and have some outrageous story, but after seeing others take claim for it in different documentaries, I wonder who is bullshitting and who is telling the truth?

Either way, Big Paul really hung himself after that. Kind of ironic after he made such a stink about Ruggiero's house being bugged.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: K1NG6] #799080
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Originally Posted By: K1NG6
Big Paul really hung himself after that. Kind of ironic after he made such a stink about Ruggiero's house being bugged.

Not ironic so much as hypocritical. And hypocrisy rules in that world wink.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799107
08/29/14 12:42 AM
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John S------- got away with a fortune. In fact, the headline of my story about him echoes the name of this thread... "Crime Really Does Pay--for Some."

A Colombo capo (retired?) he owns car distributorships and sells Mega Yachts named after James Bond movies. The NYPD was so pissed at him, I actually got a call from a detective expressly feeding me info to write a story.

http://www.cosanostranews.com/2012/03/crime-really-does-pay-for-some.html

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799349
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I'd say Tommy Gambino has probably lived the most charmed life..He never had to worry about getting whacked etc...I think the G said he was worth around $200 mill...not bad for a guy who did what 2 years in jail, if that ??

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799432
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Theres probably made guys nones ever heard of even the fbi who are low key millionaiers

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799443
08/30/14 10:52 PM
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dick cheney and George bush.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799493
08/31/14 07:10 AM
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Tony Federici has apparently ridden off into the sunset and hasn't served a day.

Kid blast Gallo and punchy Illanaro served little time and had/have looooong careers.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799528
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Tony Federici has apparently ridden off into the sunset and hasn't served a day.

And he very rarely had to live up to his nickname, either. Not that he couldn't. Far from it. But that's one guy who is more content to be a nice guy than a tough guy. A gentleman. And you know it's rare that I'll post such a thing about most of these assholes wink.


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Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799729
09/01/14 09:47 AM
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Steven Crea born in the 1947,he made only 34-month to 2004 to 2006 and now is the Luccheses boss.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: furio_from_naples] #799736
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Steven Crea born in the 1947,he made only 34-month to 2004 to 2006 and now is the Luccheses boss.

There's something to be said about not killing everyone in sight out of jealousy and paranoia wink.

And as you can see, I agree with you, Furio. But Stevie also did a couple of short stretches. But again, I agree with the spirit of your post smile.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799764
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Thanks Pizzaboy. lol

But there aren't active made men that never gone to jail even for short periods or I don't know their names. lol

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799827
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Crime is the most expensive sport in the world. Lawyers, prison, cost to family and loved ones.
Its so expensive, it costs you your health even when you dont get caught. All the worrying and stress about the dna you might have left at a crime scene,the camera's that may have caught a pic of you, the witness that may identify you, and the friend that may turn on you.
No, it doesnt pay.

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Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799944
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Depends on the type of crime, the case of street crime is definitely as you say even though many of these criminals are sociopaths.
In the case of white-collar crimes, I think that the crime pay,and pay well.

Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: furio_from_naples] #799945
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Depends on the type of crime, the case of street crime is definitely as you say even though many of these criminals are sociopaths.
In the case of white-collar crimes, I think that the crime pay,and pay well.

In the past I'd agree with you, Furio. But the American government has REALLY been cracking down on stock fraudsters and financial crimes. 25 years ago, guys like Michael Milken got a slap on the wrist. Today, guys like Bernie Madoff are getting life.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: When Crime Does Pay?? [Re: NickyScarfo] #799961
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A close friend was locked up in federal prison. The guys with some of the stiffest sentences were white collar. They are really coming down hard on that due to all the internet and bank fraud. Stick to loan sharking..lol

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