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What's the Colombo Family future ? #794123
08/05/14 07:20 AM
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http://organizecrime.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=615

Are the most unstable and violent of the five families, it got to point that both Massino and Casso had thought to absorb what was left of the family.
Despite Carmine Persico and family, Colombo are still here.
But what is their future? still can attract new members, despite having the record of the number of made men that have flipped.

Administration:
1. Boss: Carmine "Junior/The Snake" Persico/80 (IP/L)
-Acting Boss: Andrew "Andy Mush" Russo/79
2. UnderBoss: Benjamin "The Little Guy/Claw" Castellazzo/76 (IP/8/16/2015)
-Acting UnderBoss: Dominic "Donny Shacks" Montemarano/75
3. Consiglieri: ?????
-Acting Consiglieri: Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese/71


Capos:
1. Joseph Baudanza/69 - Brooklyn, Manhattan and Staten Island
2. Dennis "Fat/Little/The Beard" DeLucia/72 - Brooklyn and the Bronx
3. Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese/71 – South Florida
4. Thomas "Tommy Shots/Bop" Gioeli/61 (IP/9/9/2024) – Brooklyn, Staten Island and Long Island
5. Ralph Lombardo/83/Luca DiMatteo/69 – Brooklyn, Queens and Long Island
6. Theodore "Teddy/Skinny" Persico Jr/50 (UI/IP) - Brooklyn
7. Michael Uvino/48 (IP/6/5/2016)/Michael Catapano/50 (IP/5/1/2016) – Brooklyn and Long Island

Soldiers: (Some of these guys are no longer active)
Vincent "Vinny" Aloi/84
Joseph Amato/53
Joseph “Chubby” Audino/69
Salvatore “Sally Bread” Cambria
Frank “Campy” Campanella/56 (UI)
Richard “The Jeweller” Capichano/67
Thomas Capelli
Robert “Bobby Bibbs” Cassamassino/69
Alphonse Cirillo/77
Gerard “Jerry Green Eyes” Clamenza/56
James Clamenza
Anthony Colombo/63
Joseph Colombo Jr/62 (UI)
Anthony “Funzied” D’Ambrosia
Andre D'Apice/38
Andrew D’Apice/83
Dennis DeLucia/66
Robert “Rob” Donofrio/51
Vincent “Jimmy Gooch” Febbraro/79
Michael “Mikey” Ferrara
Salvatore Fusco Jr/46
Joseph "Joe Notch" Iannaci/77
Anthony Induisi/59
Frank “Chickie” Leto/76
Salvatore "Tutti" Lombardino Jr/78
Joseph Lupo/85
John Maggio/50
James Malpeso
Anthony Maltese/87
Salvatore Mangiamelli/79
Vincent "Downtown Vinny" Manzo/73
Victor Orena Jr/53
John Orena
Charles “Charlie Moose” Panarella/92 (UI)
Daniel “Danny” Persico/50
Theodore “Teddy” Persico Sr/75
Thomas Petrizzo/79
Francesco “Frankie P/Cap" Polito/57 (UI)
Salvatore “Sally Pro” Profaci/73
Vincent "Vinny Unions/Three Fingers" Ricciardo/62
Nicky Rizzo/86
John Rossatti
William “Billy” Russo/50
Frank “Frankie the Bug” Sciortino/81
Gus “Buddy” Spatafora/71
James "Jimmy O'Toole" Spitaleri
John S-------
Anthony Stropoli/47
Joseph "Joe T" Tomasello/75
Joseph “Joe” Tolino
Joseph Zorzi/79
FNU "Vinny Buffalo" LNU
FNU “Sally from Coney Island” LNU


Possible Members:
Dominick LoGazzo
Angelo Marone
Phil LNU


Imprisoned Members:
Pasquale Amato/75 (IP/L)
Dominick Bretti/76 (IP/L)
Joel "Waverly" Cacace/69 (U/IP/6/24/2020)
Aurelio “Ray” Cagno/67 (IP/L)
Daniel Capaldo/47 (IP/11/01/2015)
Ralph DeLeo/69 (IP/10/2/2025)
Vincent “Chickie” DeMartino/52 (IP/1/01/2025)
John "Jackie" DeRoss/73 (IP/L)
Emanuele “Manny” Favuzza/54 (IP/2/26/2016)
John "Sonny" Franzese/96 (IP/6/25/2017)
Joseph “Joe Legs” Legrano/66 (IP/12/31/2018)
Angelo Leto (IP)
Craig Marino/41 (IP/9/08/2016)
Joseph “Joe Monte” Monteleone/71 (IP/L)
Victor “Little Vic” Orena/75 (IP/L)
Alphonse "Little Allie Boy" Persico/58 (IP/L)
Anthony "Chucky" Russo/55 (IP/L)
Dino “Little Dino” Saracino/41 (IP/2/06/2052)
Joseph Savarese/50 (IP/2/16/2020)
Illario “Fat Larry” Sessa/46 (IP/6/7/2017)
Michael Sessa/50 (IP/L)
Gregory "Greg" Scarpa Jr/56 (IP/10/17/2035)


Members Who Have Died Since 1998:
Anthony "Abbie Shots/Shatz”" Abbattemarco (2005)
Benedetto "Benny" Aloi (2011)
Robert Barbieri (2002)
Frank “Frankie Camp” Campione (2012)
Peter Campisi (2002)
Joseph "Junior Lollipops" Carna (2012)
Vincent Cascio (2007)
William "Wild Bill" Cutolo (1999) (Killed)
Jerome D’Agati (2001)
Paul Damico (2002)
Leonard Dello (2009)
Robert Falvo (2010)
Edward Fanelli
Richard “Ritchie Nerves” Fusco (2013)
Salvatore Fusco Sr. (2000)
Joseph “Joe Black” Gorgone (2010)
Vincent “Vinny the Sicilian” Gugliaro (2002)
Joseph Juliano Sr. (2002)
Gennaro "Gerry Lang" Langella (2013)
Ernest LaPonzina (2004)
Joseph LaRosa (2006)
Benjamin LoCicero (2003)
Frank LoCicero (2011)
Albert Maione (2003)
Louis "Bo Bo" Malpeso Sr. (2003)
Ralph Piccirillo (2001)
Philip Rossillo (1998)
Joseph "Joey Flowers" Rotunno (2005)
Joseph "JoJo" Russo (2007)
Joseph Sangiorgio (2001)
Anthony “Scappy” Scarpati (2002)
Anthony Scianna (2009)
John Scimone (2002)
Ralph Scopo Jr. (2013)
Joseph "Joe Yack" Yacovelli (2006)
Robert "Bobby Zam" Zambardi (2014)


Members Who Have Flipped:
Paul “Paulie Guns” Bevacqua/Acting Capo (Dead)
Rocco Cagno/Soldier
Dino “Big Dino” Calabro/Capo
Joseph "Joe Camp" Campanella/Soldier
Joseph “Joey Caves” Competiello/Soldier
Michael "Mikey" Franzese/Soldier/Acting Capo
Reynold "Ren" Maragni/Capo
Salvatore "Big Sal" Miciotta/Soldier/Acting Capo
John Pate/Capo
Alan Quattrache/Soldier
Anthony Russo/Acting Capo
Sebastiano “Sebby” Saracino/Soldier
Greg “The Grim Reaper” Scarpa Sr/Capo (Dead)
Carmine Sessa/Consiglieri
Michael “Mikey” Souza/Soldier
Frank “Frankie Blue Eyes” Sparaco/Soldier

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Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794139
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Judging by the fact that the average age seems to be about 60, it doesn't look good...

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794155
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The colombos will be fine , there is enough of a recruitment pool in New York for the colombos to survive

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794156
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Carmine Persico will still be the Colombo boss in a hundred years.

We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster, impervious to indictments.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: BennyB] #794157
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Originally Posted By: BennyB
Judging by the fact that the average age seems to be about 60, it doesn't look good...


They have a TON of young guys, mainly sons or nephews following in the footsteps. The charts seem to be way off with the Colombo's.

There definitely the weakest of the 5 families by a distance but they have plenty of family members to replenish the ranks.

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794158
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Did Massino & Casso really think of absorbing the Colombo family? Dumbest idea ever considering about half the members are blood relatives of Carmine Persico, all loyal. Would've never worked.

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794159
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If Massino wanted to absorb the Colombo's in the folds of his fat or eat them, then yeah I could see that but WTF was Casso thinking? He's tiny!


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: Moe_Tilden] #794164
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Ha ha ha moe , that made me laugh

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794353
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I read of Casso and Massino on the Five Family of Raab.

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Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794367
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I look into my crystal ball and I see........in the Colombo family future...............

Indictments

murders

jail time

money

greed

backstabbing

etc


I've walked along the red canal of mars
I've known kings and king makers
Poets painters and paupers
I've danced danced on the rings of Saturn
Still your pilgrim soul is the only thing that ever mattered
Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794377
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Quote:
I look into my crystal ball and I see........in the Colombo family future...............

Indictments

murders

jail time

money

greed

backstabbing

etc


Fuck you, Primo. Go to do the mentally retarded in another forum.

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794384
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Quote:
I look into my crystal ball and I see........in the Colombo family future...............

Indictments

murders

jail time

money

greed

backstabbing

etc


Fuck you, Primo. Go to do the mentally retarded in another forum.

What did he do? confused

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: TommyGambino] #794407
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: BennyB
Judging by the fact that the average age seems to be about 60, it doesn't look good...


They have a TON of young guys, mainly sons or nephews following in the footsteps. The charts seem to be way off with the Colombo's.

There definitely the weakest of the 5 families by a distance but they have plenty of family members to replenish the ranks.


The Genovese family has the oldest membership on average. Yet, it's still considered the strongest. There is a definite "aging" of the mob, and that (as part of attrition) has led to the demise of several families around the country, but the NY families have proven to be able to maintain their relative membership sizes. Attrition is impacting them as well, to be sure, but at a much slower rate.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
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Seems like that list is small cause a couple rats have been inducted in groups in that family since 2000. The Staten island guy Sousa said him in 6 others were made by sonny fransese in 06 you think that was the only group inducted that year. Then Ralph deleo made 6 guys in 07 then I bet tommy shots made his guys then Andy Russo took over he must have made a few. He made guy in jail. That family probably still has the most presense in Brooklyn. And they got a lot of shooters.

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794452
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Quote:
I look into my crystal ball and I see........in the Colombo family future...............

Indictments

murders

jail time

money

greed

backstabbing

etc


Fuck you, Primo. Go to do the mentally retarded in another forum.


I am going to give the you the numbers of some therapists I think you could really receive some benefit from. I am not doing this as a way to attack you, I just really think they could help you with your anger issues and set you on a track to a much happier and full filling life.


I've walked along the red canal of mars
I've known kings and king makers
Poets painters and paupers
I've danced danced on the rings of Saturn
Still your pilgrim soul is the only thing that ever mattered
Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: IvyLeague] #794508
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I think you need to take in to consideration not just weather there's younger guys available to replace senior members, or if they have shooters/heavy guys available to do work but exactly what the family has left to offer a new recruit besides a button. A lot of the traditional pools of income the mob has "owned" and can offer to a new member have dried up or at the very least been drastically reduced. Labour racketeering through union infiltration and the like is nowhere like it used to be. Standover and extortion is getting harder given most would be victims no longer fear retribution and its very hard to shake down a branch of some multi national company. Government restrictions on industry's like garbage hauling and transportation have put a crimp in the earning potential there. Even online and state sanctioned gambling and payday loan houses have to have put a dent in the bookmaking and shy industry. Beside the fact that as well as the actual members getting older and dying off, so are their contacts in legitimate business.
Im not saying this doesn't go on, but it aint a patch on what it used to be. This leaves drugs. Your now walking in a world of bikers, street gangs and the like or if you do manage to climb the tree ,cartels or large syndicates well beyond the scope of neighbourhood thugs. A smart criminal going down this road has to ask himself if being associated with an LCN family with its heightened survallience and close scrutiny is the best way to go. The days of a father or capo passing an ongoing racket onto his son/nephew/new member are over.
I think the way of the future for the crime family's is diversifying, like they have been, into the more sophisticated crimes...credit fraud, online scams, stock manipulation etc. which will lead to a smaller membership requirement and also a need for a more selective quality of recruit. I think this will ultimately lead to the larger family's slowly amalgamating the smaller ones as they themselves begin a refinement process for quality over quantity as a matter of survival. The mob can no longer stand toe to toe with some of the other big players that are not only prepared to resort to violence, its usually their first response.
That being said...there's always gonna be some young Guido that's watched the godfather and goodfellas one time to many and buys right into the hype..what do I know.

Re: What's the Colombo Family future ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #794512
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Now fortunately the Italian-Americans no longer have the hunger like their grandparents that lived in the various little italies. But what made strong the mafia, which it deal not only on street crime but also with white-collar crimes, so the fact that families have decreased in number doesn't mean that their power has waned.
Could simply increase the number of associates that would do the dirty work, while the new made men could only deal with white-collar crimes.

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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
http://organizecrime.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=615

it got to point that both Massino and Casso had thought to absorb what was left of the family.


The commission wanted to defunctionalize the family and let Lucchese take the remains. Massino got 'em out of it however.


The whole thing is how strong you are and how much power you got and how fucking mean you are—that's what makes you rise in the mob. Every day's a fucking struggle, because you don't know who's looking to knock you off, especially when you become a captain or boss. Every day, somebody's looking to dispose of you and take your position. You always got to be on your toes. Every fucking day is a scam day to keep your power and position."

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