There were some gusy who were made after 57 when the books were supposedly "closed" For example Nino gaggi was made in the early 60's i believe

Don't think they made guys after JFK was hit

if you were a son to a Capo or someone higher up, or a nephew, or a cousin to a member of the administration and were in good standing with the family and the other families, then you had a good chance of being made during the time the books were closed.

From my understanding, the books were closed from 1957-1975 with the exception of New Orleans and San Francisco, that during this time in the other families, if you were a son to a Capo or someone higher up, or a nephew, or a cousin to a member of the administration and were in good standing with the family and the other families, then you had a good chance of being made during the time the books were closed. When the Books were opened again, that was when the families made guys in droves who they viewed as loyal and none of the other families had nothing bad to say about the initiate.

Bosses can induct members into their family at their choosing.

Yup. If you had the right Rabbi, you may have gotten made between 1957 and 1975 anyway. Gaggi and Farby come right to mind, but there were others.

Anyone know when Chin was made?

I suppose it could be true that some were made into the five Families in the 1960s. But I´ve never seen any documentation of this. (The only exception being Nicky Bianco in 1963, but that was due to special circumstances.) There was an informant who claimed Jimmy Napoli and Jimmy Palmieri were made in 1967. He said that Palmieri talked out loud about it while drunk sitting in a bar. Turned out that Palmieri was only bullshitting. Both Palmieri and Jimmy Nap were made later, in the 1970s. The only reference we´ve got on Gaggi being made in the early 1960s comes from Dom Montiglio (or Mustain/Capeci). The statement made in "Murder Machine" can not be backed up or confirmed by any document. In fact, informants said all through the 1960s that the books were closed and no new recruits were being accepted. You can find this by going to MaryFerrell, a site with tons of FBI files on LCN.

However, in 1972, the five Families were allowed to make two new guys each. Off the top of my head, the Gambinos made Tommy Gambino; the Colombos made Allie "Boy" Persico and possibly Chubby Rosillo; the Genoveses made Benny Mangano (possibly). In 1974 they made Vincent Cafaro, Patsy Genese and possibly Tino Fiumara. The mass inductions of new recruits began in early 1976, not in 1975.

Throughout the 1960s, the Families outside NY were allowed to make new members. This due to their small size. But they had to ask the Commission for permission. New Orleans comes to mind.

Are the books permanently open these days due to the lack of candidates?

Was the chin made before he attempted to whack Costello ?? If not , he was prob made in 57

It's pretty much open season on guys getting made now, sounds like the Bonnano and Colombo families are making pretty much anyone now to fill the void, they just can't avoid indictments..

I was under the impression ny could make guys as members died but couldn't increase overall membership #s so as to prevent wars

How often do they open the books and can other families like Philly or Jersey just make guys whenever they please or do all remaining families incl. Chicago need permission from NY to make anybody?

Also, who decides? all the families or just a few of them?

New York has never had a say over who Chicago makes. New York used to get to decide for most families on who they can make but not today. They probably have some influence on philly and jersey but not like how it used to be.