what time did mob started to use associates working for them?I thought connected guy is an old tradition, I dont believe things can work without those conncted guys.but im watching a documentary just now and it said that mafia bagan to use associates in early 80s.

Well then just turn off the television. Because that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard .

If you mean non Italians before that.

haha~i dont believe it too.but it was told by a program called mafias ten code or something,and was made by Discovery .i was amazed,i just cant imagine is there any possibility that cosa nostra can work things out without associates...

What do you mean working with associates? They've been doing that forever. You mean they started making non Italians or just having them in their crews?

isnt it nonitalian associates are always in the crew?or decades ago they were not controlled by captains?

i know they have never made any nonitalians before.

what the fuck are you on about

Speaking of associates in the mob. Are there some that made more money than made men?

I'd say heaps of associates would have made more money than made guys as... until the made guys found out about it.

The made guys may have grabbed a taste. But associates like Angelo Ponte and Carmine Franco have still made more in their lifetimes than ninety percent of the mob captains, let alone made guys. There have have been plenty of made guys who walked around with nothing but lint in their pockets .

I thought all four Ponte brothers were made guys in the Westside Pizza boy?

That's incorrect. I recently made a post about that in another thread. The Westside does not generally make garbage guys. There's too much money at stake, too many licenses at risk. You could lose your carting license to an anti-trust violation, and you can commit an anti-trust violation just by being a mafia member. They don't need anything else to pull your license. It's a cash cow with BILLIONS at stake. The Westside isn't going to risk that to burn a Saint and prick your finger. They are not your typical goombah crew of brokesters.

Now there have certainly been a few exceptions in some smaller carting companies. But the real heavyweights like Franco and Ponte were never made for the reasons I just stated. And anyone who claims differently either doesn't know what they're talking about or they're living out a mafia based fantasy.

I know associates who made loads of money. More than made guys. As long as they kick some up, they have nothing to worry about. Why would you guys think that made guys would extort them? They're money makers who follow rules and help the family.