I don't think it was an inside job, but the inattention Bush and his people paid to the warnings is enexcusable. They are trying to crucify Obama for Benghazi and ISIS, which are chicken feed compared to 9/11.

I do think the Neocons used 9/11 to push their failed agenda in Iraq, but no, the truthers are just nuts.

I don't disagree about the Bush administration and the CIA (which is loaded with scumbags no matter which party is in office). But it's funny that you fail to mention that Bubba had bin Laden in his sights and decided not to take him out, which allowed that cancer to metastasize.

They all suck. Every last one of them. Their agenda is so far beyond the understanding of their supporters and groupies, that I can't help but wonder if the Lefty and the Righty politicians get together to laugh at the voters who buy into their bullshit.

Bush was an imbecile, and I posted as much every day for eight years. But my gut tells me that if a Two Star General was killed in action on his watch, that he would have showed up for the funeral.

I'm officially "over" Obama. I feel like an idiot for so fervently supporting him in 2008. He's a bum. Just like Bush. Just like Clinton. Just like the rest of them.

So which scumbag should we vote for in the next Presidential election?

Who to vote for, Douche or Turd?

great post pb, ill go even further on bush and company, he should have been tried for war crimes for using torture. he is to blame for all the trouble in the middle east. one wonders if he wasn't mentally disturbed.

Thank you. But you also conveniently leave out that Clinton had Osama in his sights. And allowed that cancer to grow.

And like I said, I thought Bush was an imbecile. But war crimes, against those "people"?

Maybe cruelty to animals. That's about it.

Bull shit and if you think water boarding is torture you have no clue what torture really is.

I started my own 9/11 conspiracy thread before I knew about this one so I will try not to post in that one and will try to post in this one. Personally I think it's ridiculous. People have the right to feel how they feel but some people say the pentagon wasn't even hit by a plane. They found the black box and there's pictures of debris from the plane outside of the pentagon. Did people really expect the plane to make a cartoon like imprint on a concrete reinforced building? The wings weren't going to go cleanly straight through it like a chain saw would go through wood. I do believe that some conspiracy theorists on this topic make somewhat good cases and are rational, but even they do not look at the facts pointing to 9/11 not being an inside job. I watched the "9/11 in plane site" and I also read online that many of the so called facts were twisted and turned in there. A quote was damn near cut in half to make it seem like the guy said that a guided missile hit the pentagon when in fact if you look at the whole quote online as opposed to the documentary he was saying that it was coming in fast like a guided missile. Not actually saying it was actually a guided missile. All the conspiracy theorists lose their credibility after something like that imo. I'm not completely opposed to conspiracies in any way shape or form. If it's believable then I'll definitely look into it like the JFK assassination for one. Many conspiracy theories are extremely believable and plausible. That's why I do believe the JFK assassination was a conspiracy.

Yes PB! I've said that for years! He could've ended Osama right there but he didn't. He shared some fault in 9/11 as well.

Maybe we should start a new thread for this bs...under the heading of the supratentorially challenged.

As much as people like to praise him as being "the first black president" for whatever reason he had his faults. People like to sweep the Monica lewinski incident and the fact that he had Osama in his sights under the rug.

PizzaBoy, Clinton was going to kill Osama bin Laden. But his National Security Advisor Sandy Berger overruled him....three times. What I mean by that is that Osama was located three times and Clinton actually ordered the hits, but Sandy Berger somehow vetoed it. One of the excuses was unacceptable civilian casualties. So maybe Osama bin Laden was being protected? Maybe it took a change of administrations to eliminate him, similar to Whitey Bulger's situation. Clinton was a President who had would be terrorists arrested right in the airport. He did that.

Sandy Berger by the way was the same guy who stole documents from the National Archives by hiding them in his socks when he was under investigation from the 911 Commission.

You can't 'veto' an order from the President. If he wants some jihad animal dead you can bet your ass he's going to be dead.

One thing I'll give Obama is the killing of Bin Laden. He ordered it, it got done. End of fuckin story. You don't fuck with the United States and get away with it. I would love to see these ISIS bastards try something and see what happens

But he didn't.

These threads are nothing but trouble. This one in particular was started by an attention starved malcontent who was begging to get banned (SC granted his wish, by the way).

Not that it's your fault, Alfa_Romeo. You've been an intelligent addition here since you signed up. But there are just too many New Yorkers and other Tri-Staters on this board who lived through that horrific day and don't want to hear about any conspiracy theories. Some of us find it incredibly offensive.

But if people are Hell bent on starting trouble here, I'm sure a new malcontent will start a similar thread next September .

Just fyi Osama Bin Laden's son in law was sentenced to life in prison yesterday in new york city.

Not for nothing but I don't see how anyone could say it's an inside job. In my experience the people who claim so are usually just shit stirrers or dumbass hippies who don't what the families of the victims and the families of the soldiers who fought in the war went through

Well, that's GOOD news, Delly .

They should let the Rats eat him alive, Scumbum!

The following is so interesting. Republicans continue to fracture their party:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/...ndings-garbage/

Your trying to tell us that they were under fire for at least 7 hours or more.

If the President the I know nothing I see nothing president knew about it for those 7 hours. If he had an executive ordered it we know he likes those had order a rescue from the beginning they could not have got them out in 7 hours I say to that bull shit.

Please, Olivant. Like the Democrats aren't just as dangerous with their own wingnuts and extremists. And I was a registered Democrat for thirty years. But what's right is right. One extreme is just as dangerous as the other.

I think what's happening here is that the Dems are starting to realize that the Clinton Pig can't win, so they're throwing out a another "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy."

To the other guy that Bush knew about 9/11 before it happen, and could have stopped it and instead did nothing. More fucking bullshit

9/11 was clearly planned years in advance. They started laying the groundwork while Slick Willie was still getting blown by fat, homely interns.

PB, what are you typing about? You do know that Lindsey Graham is Republican, don't you?

Of course, Oli. And if I lived in South Carloina I wouldn't vote for him on a bet. But it was your mention of the Republicans fracturing their party that set me off.

Graham is entitled to think that the Benghazi report is a load of crap. If he's wrong, he's wrong. But I don't see where he's any more accountable in fracturing his party than a Lefty like Pelosi is guilty of fracturing hers.

And you know I like you, Oli. A lot. We've "known" each other for close to ten years now. But I've had it with the sniping from both ends of the political spectrum. I'm an Independent now. FDR himself couldn't draw me back into the Democratic camp. And Lincoln couldn't make me a Republican. I've had it.

DonMatosso: How about the fact that Clinton had Osama in his scope and did not take the shot? But of course its bush's fault. BTW, how does it feel to have gotten destroyed in mid terms?

I think the mob did it or was involved, just like JFK!

Of course they have a laugh about it! Does anything really change? Regardless of what party is in power and who leads that party they still interfer in the relations of sovereign nations, they still destroy the concept of privacy through NSA spying, they still militarize local police forces. The right wing and left wing still belong to the same crooked bird.

After thinking about it long and hard, i've come to the conclusion that the Iceman did it..

I think The Arm did it. I think The Arm and his crew installed the shoddy drywall.