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Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772176
04/08/14 10:51 AM
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Thanks Furio that's the one there is also soldier's listes as well but those are mostly the same as the last few years.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772178
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Yeah I must admit I felt there reach was a little far fetched ha ha ,

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772223
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detroit is a low key family though, whose to say they are on there last legs when they are doing everything a family should be doing and keeping things under the radar.


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Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772230
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"Low key" is just a byword for severely reduced in manpower and activity. The Genoveses are the only truly "low key" family and they have 200+ members.

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Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772233
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@Snakes I'm as quick as the next guy to call someone out for over estimating a crime family. But, "low key" can also mean: The perfect combination: 1) Operating in a city absolutely overridden with other shit to do with almost 0 law enforcement attention (Michigan US Attorneys are not judged by how many successful mob cases they've tried unlike NY, PA, NJ ones are). 2) The uniquely incestual family structure.

I'm not saying it's one way or the other, but that's just the devil's advocate.


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Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772239
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I agree , low key doesn't mean they r on there last legs , the Detroit mob for me r set up in the same way as the Genovese family with panels and street bosses insulating the administration , although nowhere near as big as the Genovese family in numbers I don't believe they r on there last legs , they r a structured viable family who r prospering

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: furio_from_naples] #772251
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Furio, great list but why have a Counselor emeritus and Consiglieri.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: Snakes] #772316
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Originally Posted By: Snakes
"Low key" is just a byword for severely reduced in manpower and activity.


This.


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Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: Snakes] #772321
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Originally Posted By: Snakes
"Low key" is just a byword for severely reduced in manpower and activity. The Genoveses are the only truly "low key" family and they have 200+ members.



they ain't gonna stay lowkey for much longer if they still have 200+ members

that's counterproductive nowadays

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: TommyGambino] #772329
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Would be shocked if they have anymore then 3. Decavelante's and Philly both have 3 and there clearly bigger families. There on there last legs, probably only have 15 active made guys.

fyi, philly has 4 crews: north jersey, south jersey, south philly and south philly/bucks county. don't make the mistake of going to the other end of the extreme either.

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
they ain't gonna stay lowkey for much longer if they still have 200+ members. that's counterproductive nowadays.

just the nj faction of the geneovese crime family is larger than both detroit and chicago separately. +1 for the all powerful east coast mob! it feels great knowing that nj is home to such a powerful organization!


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Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772404
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F white,I honestly don't know why there are a Counselor emeritus and a consigliere, but I think, given that very often this these are honorific titles that are given to old soldiers who still want to have their say on the family business and don't want to completely retire . But it is my guess.

Scalish here is a list of the Detroit Partnership of 2014, thanks to Johnny_Scootch, and the site

http://organizecrime.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3133&start=90

where I got the list

This is how Scott Burnstein say the family looks today.

Detroit LCN 2014

Administration

Boss – Jack “Jackie the Kid/The Bathrobe” Giacalone
Underboss – Anthony “Chicago Tony/Tony Lop/The Loli-Pop” La Piana
Consiglieri – Anthony “Tony Pal/The Butterfly” Palazzola
Street Boss – Peter “Specs/Blackie” Tocco
Counselor emeritus: Giacomo “Black Jack” Tocco, Joseph "Joe Hooks" Mirabile, Dominic "Uncle Dom" Bommarito

Capos

David “Davey Donuts” Aceto
Joseph “Joey Jack/Joe Vine” Giacalone
Joseph “Joe the Hood” D’Anna
Paul “Big Paulie” Corrado
Antonino “Tony the Extermintor” Ruggirello (coming out of retirement for short-term stint until La Piana names an official successor as boss of his crew, the former Meli crew)

“Soldiers”

Anthony “Tony Z” Zerilli (inactive/shelved)
Vito Tocco
Salvatore “Mops/Junior” Tocco
Jack “Little Jackie/Miami Jack” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL)
Anthony “Nino/Smitty” Tocco
Anthony “Little Tony/Little Tawncy” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL)
Joseph “Joe T” Tocco
Peter “Fat Pete” Corrado
Peter “Baby Bull” Corrado
Paul “Cousin Paulie/the Fixer” Corrado
Anthony “Nino” Corrado
Dominic “Chicago Dom” Corrado (CHI-NW IN)
Joseph “Joe White” Giacalone (Flint)
Jack “Jackie the Nose” Giacalone (FL)
Vincent “Vinnie Jack” Giacalone
Dominic “Fat Dom” Rubino
Peter “Petey Boy” Messina
Joseph “Jo Jo” Messina
Joseph "Joe the Clipper" Barbara, Jr. (semi-retired, sometimes looked to for counsel by admin)
Dominic “Big Dom” Vivio (shelved-PITT)
Frank “Frankie the Bomb” Bommarito (semi-active)
Robert “Bobby the Animal” La Puma
Gerard Di Michelle
Sam Ventilmiglia (TX)
Anthony Rugerio
Patrick Rugerio
Antonio “Toto” Ruggirello
Anthony “Little Tony Long” Cimini, Jr.
Anthony “Little Tony Razz” Randazo Jr,
Girolamo “Mimmo” D’Anna
Salvatore “Sparky” Palazzola, Jr.
Vincenzo “Vinnie Meatballs” Bronzino
John “Johnny Bananas” Sciarotta
Joseph “Joe D” Di Stefano
Eugene “Genie Boy” Baratta
Joseph “Joey the Trash Man” Tringali
Isodoro “Teddy San Diego” Matranga (CAL)
Peter “Pete the Clown” Leonardo
Louis “Butch” Stramaglia
Greektown Mike Katranis (in charge of Greektown)
William "Billy Lee" Loiacano (FL-inactive)
Joseph "Joe Gravel" Gargalino (FL-Retired)
Antonio "Tony the Zip/Dago Tony" Ciraulo (Serving a Life sentence)

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772419
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That's it good stuff Furio.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: Five_Felonies] #772426
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
[quote=TommyGambino]Would be shocked if they have anymore then 3. Decavelante's and Philly both have 3 and there clearly bigger families. There on there last legs, probably only have 15 active made guys.

fyi, philly has 4 crews: north jersey, south jersey, south philly and south philly/bucks county. don't make the mistake of going to the other end of the extreme either.

Scoops crew has like 2 made guys doesn't it? Tiny.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: TommyGambino] #772429
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
[quote=TommyGambino]Would be shocked if they have anymore then 3. Decavelante's and Philly both have 3 and there clearly bigger families. There on there last legs, probably only have 15 active made guys.

fyi, philly has 4 crews: north jersey, south jersey, south philly and south philly/bucks county. don't make the mistake of going to the other end of the extreme either.

Scoops crew has like 2 made guys doesn't it? Tiny.

I think there's 5 total made guys in the nj crew. Seems like all their crew is into is gambling.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: furio_from_naples] #772430
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Thanks.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: NickyEyes1] #772441
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
[quote=TommyGambino]Would be shocked if they have anymore then 3. Decavelante's and Philly both have 3 and there clearly bigger families. There on there last legs, probably only have 15 active made guys.

fyi, philly has 4 crews: north jersey, south jersey, south philly and south philly/bucks county. don't make the mistake of going to the other end of the extreme either.

Scoops crew has like 2 made guys doesn't it? Tiny.

I think there's 5 total made guys in the nj crew. Seems like all their crew is into is gambling.


Names? Beeps and fazzini are only two i can think of, think Beeps is retired, Fazzini in jail. Is Nicky O made?

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Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: TommyGambino] #772446
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
[quote=TommyGambino]Would be shocked if they have anymore then 3. Decavelante's and Philly both have 3 and there clearly bigger families. There on there last legs, probably only have 15 active made guys.

fyi, philly has 4 crews: north jersey, south jersey, south philly and south philly/bucks county. don't make the mistake of going to the other end of the extreme either.

Scoops crew has like 2 made guys doesn't it? Tiny.

I think there's 5 total made guys in the nj crew. Seems like all their crew is into is gambling.


Names? Beeps and fazzini are only two i can think of, think Beeps is retired, Fazzini in jail. Is Nicky O made?


Yes, Nicky O is made.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772454
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Yeah Nicky o got made the same day as vincent centorino, john praino, George fresolone , Nicholas cifelli , they were made in john praino's house by Anthony piccolo and patty specs martirano

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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Yeah Nicky o got made the same day as vincent centorino, john praino, George fresolone , Nicholas cifelli , they were made in john praino's house by Anthony piccolo and patty specs martirano


Cheers for the info. Scoops needs to make a few guys up there, Scoops and Nicky O are getting on in age, need some young guys. Fazzini is young-ish.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: domwoods74] #772463
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There's also some guy with the last name Servido. Forget his first name.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: NickyEyes1] #772466
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
There's also some guy with the last name Servido. Forget his first name.


Yeah, Joe Electric didn't know he was a jersey guy.

Re: Detroit mob has new leadership [Re: furio_from_naples] #772497
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
F white,I honestly don't know why there are a Counselor emeritus and a consigliere, but I think, given that very often this these are honorific titles that are given to old soldiers who still want to have their say on the family business and don't want to completely retire . But it is my guess.


You're correct about the Counselor Emeritus, Furio. However, it's mainly for retired administrative members, hence why the former boss, underboss, and consigliere currently hold that slot. Tony Tocco and Vito Giacalone have been slotted here as well before they died. Soldiers have in the past had this position, but it is rare. It's just an extra buffer and counsel if wanted by the boss and sitting admin. It's not a true source of power, like say the consigliere. They are held in higher regard that a soldier however.

This isn't a new position either. It was referred to as the "Ruling Council" originally when the family was young and powers from the different factions consolidated their power (Tocco, Zerilli, Licavoli, Meli, and Priziola factions). The first member to become a "counselor emeritus" was the first boss, Black Bill Tocco, when he started to step away and give rackets to his son, Jack Tocco in the 60's, but still wanted some say in family matters. As the founders aged or got sick, they usually stepped down and took this position.

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