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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: italy100]
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03/20/14 05:47 PM
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LittleNicky
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Even philly is smart enough to realize there is no upside in whacking him now. Damage is already done and the feds would go nuclear if they even touched him.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: LittleNicky]
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03/20/14 05:55 PM
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SonnyBlackstein
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Even philly is smart enough to realize there is no upside in whacking him now. Damage is already done Disagree with this popular theory. There is absolutely 'upside' to hitting him or any other rat living in plain sight (Pisciotti, Pacello, Joseph 'Joe Campy' Campanella etc). Deterrent. Having retribution is a key LCN trait and the lack of this only encourages further 'ratting'. Whether this outweighs the FBI response is another debate.
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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03/20/14 06:34 PM
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LittleNicky
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Even philly is smart enough to realize there is no upside in whacking him now. Damage is already done Disagree with this popular theory. There is absolutely 'upside' to hitting him or any other rat living in plain sight (Pisciotti, Pacello, Joseph 'Joe Campy' Campanella etc). Deterrent. Having retribution is a key LCN trait and the lack of this only encourages further 'ratting'. Whether this outweighs the FBI response is another debate. It's simply no longer possible to get away it in this day and age. So any discussion of the upside is completely fantasyland, a few rats might fear you for the month before you get sentenced to death for killing a federal witness.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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03/20/14 09:05 PM
03/20/14 09:05 PM
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LittleNicky
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@LittleNicky
Mob murders still occur. Some are solved, some arent.
That you would propose to know that everyone against a rat would be solved is more the 'fantasyland'. There is a reason that a high-profile government witness, post testifying, hasn't been hit for several decades. It would be instantly clear who did it and bring down a massive law enforcement crackdown. You can't kill witnesses in federal trials. Either you know the mobsters self-interest better than they do or that fact speaks for itself. The calculus is different pre-trial or pre-indictment. But even that seems to have gone the direction toward less violence.
Last edited by LittleNicky; 03/20/14 09:10 PM.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: italy100]
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03/20/14 10:06 PM
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Lou_Para
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Nobody gives a sh*t about rats anymore. The whole concept of Honor and Omerta,and putting the Family above all else is dead and buried. Maybe when Gambino was alive it would be risky for a guy to rat,but not anymore. The whole mentality has changed. You've got all the mopes and cugines moving up in the ranks and it's all about money and flash. Even the Chin and Massino took deals.
Half of the modern "Men of Respect" think that Omerta is a pasta dish. Rat'em out, get a deal, do time served, and write a book. Christ,Sammy Bull ratted out the supposed"last real gangster",and in between book signings and Diane Sawyer interviews,he basically waved his di*k in Gotti's face. Yea.I know they were GOING to kill him,but gee,somehow they didn't. Then he gets popped and is sitting in a cell for the next 15 years. He makes fools out of both "The Last Godfather" and the Government,but will probably die from choking on a steak when he gets out.
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
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03/20/14 10:51 PM
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MikeyO
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So why does Gino DiPietro get killed for being a rumored informant (if that was the reason, not that I would know) and Monacello walk free? Is it possible that certain people are being extra cautious when it comes to vengeance, possibly taking a lesson from the Nicodemo fiasco? These guy's don't learn lessons. "Cosa Nostra Till I Die"
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: italy100]
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03/21/14 12:07 AM
03/21/14 12:07 AM
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LittleNicky
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Little nicky and pmac you two make me laugh. Don't tell people how things work now. My deal is I have deep, old, old ties to the Philly mob. I am not hiding my identity because of fear it is because this shit is not talked about. It would be a complete embarrassment to a lot of people if it was known I came on here and gossiped on illegal info that is not to be spoken about, I am aware though that the crew that runs this site probably has my IP address and knows where I am. I also noticed that leaders of site list there location in jersey. so there is a good chance someone knows one. And could find out who I am if they wanted to. But I would never identify myself only for fear of embarrassment to others. After saying that for you to to tell us how things work is kind of insulting. One thing about Philly is a lot of these people go back three generations. So we don't need to be told how things work or happen. I have roots in philly that probably goes back to 1800's in illegal activity in area. Another reason identity would never be given is we are not completely legit yet so to come on here and admit to illegal activity would be foolish to say the least. There are serious old timers all over the philly area who know a lot more then 99% of the people on this site. Guys that you would think are working stiffs played cards with guys like sindone and riccobene. That being said I will gossip a little from time to time. The reason a high profile government witness wasn't hit ten years ago is because they were well protected not because of fear of law enforcement. No witnesses walked the street. If one did please tell us who it was and I will say your right. Guys I know wouldn't talk to you unless they knew you for 30 years or knew a relative of yours for that long. That being said lets have some fun cracking on gangsters and wannabee gangsters. Hey Italy, It takes a special kind of pussy to make all kinds of outlandish remarks about uncle joe (Uncle Joe is RAT), edit all your posts to hide your history and then come on here and start discussing your credentials as a insider. You are just another lunatic with delusions of grandeur. http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...8329#Post768329
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: italy100]
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03/21/14 08:21 AM
03/21/14 08:21 AM
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LittleNicky
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South jersey old head and nicky jr?
Nice names did you give them to yourselves?
If I change my screenname to Al Capone does that make me him?
Two wannabees if you ask me. How far is Cherry Hill from Philly anyway. Dude you accused Uncle Joe of being a rat in a psychotic rant only to change the topic "I love hoagies". At least stand by your slander. quotes such as:
WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN CAMDEN/CHERRY HILL AREA FOR A VERY LONG TIME. KNEW NATALE. WE KNOW SOME DETECTIVES THAT HAVE TOLD US TO STAY AWAY FROM LIGAMBI. HE IS A INFORMANT. THEY MIGHT BE LYING BUT WE ARE TAKING NO CHANCES. THEY WANT MERLINO AND THINK LIGAMBI IS BEST SHOT TO GET HIM. WE GREW UP WITH THE DETECTIVES AND THEY ARE FRIENDS.
HOW THE F IS THIS GUY OUT ON THE STREET. EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED IS LOCKED UP. ALSO DONT UNDERSTAND HOW HE GOT OUT OF MURDER CONVICTION YEARS AGO. HE WAS ONLY ONE TO GET OUT THEN TOO. SEEMS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE TO ME. I WOULDNT GO NEAR THIS GUY WITH 10 FOOT POLE. I KNOW NOBODY WANTS JOB, BUT ALL THE STUFF GOING ON AND ALL THE GOVERMENT COMES UP WITH IS PINBALL MACHINES? NO CONSPIRACY CONVICTION? I SMELL A ---!
Last edited by LittleNicky; 03/21/14 08:23 AM.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: italy100]
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03/21/14 08:37 AM
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LaLouisiane
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Little nicky and pmac you two make me laugh. Don't tell people how things work now. My deal is I have deep, old, old ties to the Philly mob. I am not hiding my identity because of fear it is because this shit is not talked about. It would be a complete embarrassment to a lot of people if it was known I came on here and gossiped on illegal info that is not to be spoken about, I am aware though that the crew that runs this site probably has my IP address and knows where I am. I also noticed that leaders of site list there location in jersey. so there is a good chance someone knows one. And could find out who I am if they wanted to. But I would never identify myself only for fear of embarrassment to others. After saying that for you to to tell us how things work is kind of insulting. One thing about Philly is a lot of these people go back three generations. So we don't need to be told how things work or happen. I have roots in philly that probably goes back to 1800's in illegal activity in area. Another reason identity would never be given is we are not completely legit yet so to come on here and admit to illegal activity would be foolish to say the least. There are serious old timers all over the philly area who know a lot more then 99% of the people on this site. Guys that you would think are working stiffs played cards with guys like sindone and riccobene. That being said I will gossip a little from time to time. The reason a high profile government witness wasn't hit ten years ago is because they were well protected not because of fear of law enforcement. No witnesses walked the street. If one did please tell us who it was and I will say your right. Guys I know wouldn't talk to you unless they knew you for 30 years or knew a relative of yours for that long. That being said lets have some fun cracking on gangsters and wannabee gangsters. Let me see if I'm putting this into perspective right.... A. According to you, Ligambi is a rat B. According to you, your family has connections in the Philly mob? ....So if Philly finds out who you are, won't the acting boss take it out on your blood relatives for calling him a rat on a public forum page?
"What are you cacklin' hens cluckin' about?!?!"
"Is that him?!? With the sombrero on?!?"
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Re: Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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03/21/14 02:42 PM
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Even philly is smart enough to realize there is no upside in whacking him now. Damage is already done Disagree with this popular theory. There is absolutely 'upside' to hitting him or any other rat living in plain sight (Pisciotti, Pacello, Joseph 'Joe Campy' Campanella etc). Deterrent. Having retribution is a key LCN trait and the lack of this only encourages further 'ratting'. Whether this outweighs the FBI response is another debate. Well, the last part of your post is the theory, i.e. whatever benefits could be gained from hitting a rat after the fact are far outweighed by the risks today. Much like taking plea deals rather than going to trial, the mob has had to adapt in the world it lives in now.
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