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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
[Re: Mmalioni]
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Aldo Piscitelli Jr. is active I think with Cicero or Southside. He is roughly in his 40s.
The Carusos wield (or wielded) enormous amounts of power. For Frank Jr. to have served over 3 years in IL state prison (run by the Folks and People Gangs) and come out without any issues, just shows something was agreed upon between the Outfit and the gangs.
Didn't Frank Calabrese Sr. have a huge beef with Shorty LaMantia in Milan, Michigan because Shorty wasn't technically made, but acted like he was made around the NY guys? He was on tape telling little Calabrese that he bitched LaMantia out for identifying himself as made...I've seen lots of speculation that he wasn't really bitching at him for saying he was made when he wasn't, but for even talking about it with anyone. I saw a lot of people saying LaMantia was 100 percent made. Dunno what to think though. Based on what was said it sure seemed like Calabrese was dressing him down for saying something he wasnt.
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
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[quote=Mmalioni]The Carusos wield (or wielded) enormous amounts of power. For Frank Jr. to have served over 3 years in IL state prison (run by the Folks and People Gangs) and come out without any issues, just shows something was agreed upon between the Outfit and the gangs.quote]
Not really. Didn't someone beat the crap out of John Gotti in prison, with no retaliation?
I one time met a kid who served five years in a max facility. He said it wasn't really that bad, just boring.
john gotti got beat up for talking shit caruso's kid was ordered by his father not to start anything they paid somebody to watch him
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
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03/20/14 08:31 AM
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[quote=Mmalioni]The Carusos wield (or wielded) enormous amounts of power. For Frank Jr. to have served over 3 years in IL state prison (run by the Folks and People Gangs) and come out without any issues, just shows something was agreed upon between the Outfit and the gangs.quote]
Not really. Didn't someone beat the crap out of John Gotti in prison, with no retaliation?
I one time met a kid who served five years in a max facility. He said it wasn't really that bad, just boring.
john gotti got beat up for talking shit caruso's kid was ordered by his father not to start anything they paid somebody to watch him They even had that gangster disciple enforcer turned political activist wallace "gator" bradley involved with them, and he was getting accused of being paid off to support them. He was heavily involved with larry hoovers growth and development programme and had served time in prison, so it could be plausible that they came to some sort of financial arrangement to keep certain people safe in prison.
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
[Re: Mmalioni]
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03/20/14 09:45 AM
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Aldo Piscitelli Jr. is active I think with Cicero or Southside. He is roughly in his 40s.
The Carusos wield (or wielded) enormous amounts of power. For Frank Jr. to have served over 3 years in IL state prison (run by the Folks and People Gangs) and come out without any issues, just shows something was agreed upon between the Outfit and the gangs.
Didn't Frank Calabrese Sr. have a huge beef with Shorty LaMantia in Milan, Michigan because Shorty wasn't technically made, but acted like he was made around the NY guys? "Aldo P" was in his early 40s when he went to prison in the early 90s lol. He passed away in November and was probably 70...the broader LaMantia/Szaflarski family has been dealing with a lot lately.
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
[Re: funkster]
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03/20/14 09:49 AM
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What I wanna know is what NYC guys they were talking about. It wasn't NYC guys. It was "East Coast" guys and if you listen to the tapes Calabrese is going on and on about "Raymond." He is talking about Raymond Patriarca Jr. He, Calabrese, Shorty, Frank Jr. and others served time together. Most of the guys were from Boston, Conneticut and the Bronx according to Frankie Jr. Also Shorty was a relatively major player on the Southside...don't let Calabrese' lies and boasts to his son distort who the guy was. Shorty was a gangster tried and true, as were his sons Rocco and Aldo. Shorty worked for Skids Caruso and was very connected in Outfit circles...he was not a stooge or hated by LaPietra whatsoever. Calabrese said a lot of bullshit to his son to make himself look better.
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
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03/20/14 11:19 AM
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What I wanna know is what NYC guys they were talking about. It wasn't NYC guys. It was "East Coast" guys and if you listen to the tapes Calabrese is going on and on about "Raymond." He is talking about Raymond Patriarca Jr. He, Calabrese, Shorty, Frank Jr. and others served time together. Most of the guys were from Boston, Conneticut and the Bronx according to Frankie Jr. Also Shorty was a relatively major player on the Southside...don't let Calabrese' lies and boasts to his son distort who the guy was. Shorty was a gangster tried and true, as were his sons Rocco and Aldo. Shorty worked for Skids Caruso and was very connected in Outfit circles...he was not a stooge or hated by LaPietra whatsoever. Calabrese said a lot of bullshit to his son to make himself look better. That's exactly what i was saying in my first response...that most thought it was Calabrese just being full of shit. I have never seen the transcripts other than that Suntimes article. Where can it be found you know? And you're right he does say East Coast...i've never seen who they were referring to. As Mmaloni asked, are his kids still active?
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
[Re: Mmalioni]
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03/20/14 03:49 PM
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You are right about Aldo P. I stand corrected.
Anything current on Rocco LaMantia?
Also, Aldo P.'s sister is married to Szaflarski. "Neicy" LaMantia married Casey Szaflarski and was caught up in the hired truck program. Rocco is still locked up after he assaulted that pawnshop on Roosevelt Road. Before he went away, I had heard he was trying to write a book on Chinatown and his father and Grand Father...perhaps he smartened up. The guy is a serious hot head.
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
[Re: ChiTown]
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03/21/14 01:48 AM
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You are right about Aldo P. I stand corrected.
Anything current on Rocco LaMantia?
Also, Aldo P.'s sister is married to Szaflarski. "Neicy" LaMantia married Casey Szaflarski and was caught up in the hired truck program. Rocco is still locked up after he assaulted that pawnshop on Roosevelt Road. Before he went away, I had heard he was trying to write a book on Chinatown and his father and Grand Father...perhaps he smartened up. The guy is a serious hot head. Looks like IDOC has him paroled in 2012.
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
[Re: funkster]
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03/21/14 09:53 AM
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You are right about Aldo P. I stand corrected.
Anything current on Rocco LaMantia?
Also, Aldo P.'s sister is married to Szaflarski. "Neicy" LaMantia married Casey Szaflarski and was caught up in the hired truck program. Rocco is still locked up after he assaulted that pawnshop on Roosevelt Road. Before he went away, I had heard he was trying to write a book on Chinatown and his father and Grand Father...perhaps he smartened up. The guy is a serious hot head. Looks like IDOC has him paroled in 2012. Interesting...I had thought he was sentenced to 6 years or so...I would then consider Rocco an active player on the South Side. He is probably the major power in that specific neighborhood as he is one of the few Southside guys who still live there.
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Re: new chicago outfit charts 1995-present
[Re: Richards_bar]
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03/21/14 03:49 PM
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Calling Rocco a major player in Bridgeport is laughable at best. The Carusos wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. He's basically a cousin of the Caruso's (and is through marriage now) but he's a street guy who still runs around Bridgeport beating up drug dealers and involved in street crime. Major player was probably the wrong term there...more like "active" on the street level shit that the Caruso's wouldn't touch anyway. But I guarantee he is still kicking something up...he had the entire LaMantia/Szaflarski family in on the hired truck scandal company...and the powers that be didn't let just anyone into that exclusive club.
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