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Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #765466
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/timeline-events-led-joaquin-el-chapo-guzmans-arrest/t/story?id=22649692&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

I can't post the article but that's a link to an ABC news article with a timetable of events on how they got him. Best article so far

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #765470
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@DallasConnected. you know, now that you say that, the son of a bitch they got right now looks nothing like in other photos and videos.

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #765481
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Thanks for the information everyone!

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #765495
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In my opinion the people around him were weak the guy he used as courier flipped immediately Everton captured talked crazy New to the site love the site

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #765499
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LILO you might be right but I think in Mexico they torture people to flip em

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: StLguy] #765509
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Originally Posted By: StLguy
"he's given undue adulation,while in mexico there are literally 100's of roy demeos in the news everyday. b ut they aren't given the same reverence by posters here"

Adulation? Reverence? I don't think that Roy Demeo has received that form anyone here and if you think that a bunch of cartel serial murderers and drug pushers deserve it, then you're fucking sick.



the same can be said for the mafia

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Wilson101] #765515
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Well in that case I could see why

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #765528
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Yea I don't think they're big on human rights over there, especially the government.

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: tommykarate] #766138
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Originally Posted By: tommykarate
I cant understand why there isnt more carel topics on here.its really interesting whats goin on.fuckn crazy and brutal but interesting. Its bn rumored that chapo and el mayo were about to split and start fighting.guess not now.with everything chapo has on corrupt politicians and d.e.a and the rest of the alohabet boys i figured he would be killed


I lack interest in the Mexican drug trade because multiple Governments have been implicit in it. I'm more interested in true crime, where there is a line in the sand between who the criminals are and the so called good guys. What goes on in Mexico is more like massive corruption and lawlessness. It's no fun when the criminals can buy off everyone. I believe only a fraction of the murders in Mexico have been solved, because the Government don't give a shit.

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766163
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Look at chapos pic.bruises on him n shit.they said he was hit 4times.theres a site were they give descriptions of the tunnels hecwas in.they gound grenades bullet proof vests and guns going thru the tunnels.they also found a grenade launcher were it opened up outside. Chapo could fukd some people up.he shoulda shot a grenade n closed the tunnel wen he got out.mite c a big prison break like the zetas are known for.they freed over 100people in 1.zetas are crazy


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Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: tommykarate] #766164
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Originally Posted By: tommykarate
Look at chapos pic.bruises on him n shit.they said he was hit 4times.theres a site were they give descriptions of the tunnels hecwas in.they gound grenades bullet proof vests and guns going thru the tunnels.they also found a grenade launcher were it opened up outside. Chapo could fukd some people up.he shoulda shot a grenade n closed the tunnel wen he got out.mite c a big prison break like the zetas are known for.they freed over 100people in 1.zetas are crazy


Guzman is Sinaloa not Zetas.

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766166
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I know that.i said a zetas style prison break


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Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: tommykarate] #766281
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organisational chart was just published.


http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/..._2014_02_28.jpg

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766512
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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
organisational chart was just published.


http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/..._2014_02_28.jpg


Very nice thAnk you


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Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766524
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anyone else want tacos?

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766549
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Going to work out then going to smoke and get fish tacos @ tortilla press, life is rough

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766551
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The Drug War’s Theater of the Absurd: El Chapo Guzmán’s Arrest

Playing His Role: Every Good Drama Needs a Willing Villain

By Guillermo Jimenez on Tuesday, March 4, 2014
In the theater of the absurd that is the War on Drugs, the rational gives way to the irrational — the logical to the illogical.
We observe the narcotics supply-chain of individuals and the law enforcement apparatus, both trapped in seemingly hopeless situations. Then those in positions of power — government, big business, and banks — act out their role with the same repetitive and meaningless actions. They assuage the public with words of comfort, but they ring full of clichés and nonsense. In the end, there is no meaning, a cyclical and destructive plot without bounds.
The arrest of Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán fits into this narrative all too well. Touted as one of the most dangerous and sought after criminals on the planet, his capture has led to much congratulatory back-slapping on the part of Mexican and US authorities. The takedown of the face of the Sinaloa Cartel has been said to mark the end of an era, and yet, paradoxically, has left many more questions than answers.
Aside from the uncertainties of the future, questions linger as to the planning, execution, and timing of the arrest — how, who, or what set the stage for El Chapo’s fall?
The “Three Amigos” at the North American Leaders Summit in Toluca, Mexico on Wednesday, Feb.19, 2014. Source: The White House.
Guzmán’s capture came only three days after the “Three Amigos Summit” — a meeting between Mexican President Peña Nieto, Canadian Prime Minister Harper, and US President Obama over trade deals — and only a week after Peña Nieto’s Time magazine cover was revealed as a paid advertisement.
The billionaire on-the-run was eventually captured in a rather ordinary-looking hotel room and immediately photographed, shirtless and disheveled — the image of a bested and broken man. Normally traveling with a security team of up to 300 heavily armed men, Guzmán was, incredibly, done in without single shot fired. The “CEO of Crime” was then put in front of the cameras again, made to perform the classic “perp walk,” breaking with the tradition of the Peña Nieto administration thus far.
Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán at the moment of arrest. Source: Mexican law enforcement.
Danny Benavides, writing for Traces of Reality, highlights the inconsistency: “Take note, for instance, the manner in which Chapo Guzmán was led out before the cameras after his arrest: a Mexican Marine seen applying a Vulcan nerve grip on the back of his neck, head down and cuffed (see video here). Then contrast that with the way captured Zetas leader Miguel Ángel Treviño Morales (alias “Z-40″) performed his perp walk: unrestrained, strutting at a cool pace alongside Mexican Marines (see video here).”
Indeed, the very capture of the drug lord itself possesses many elements of theater — so much so that even former agents of the DEA, now retired and able to speak freely, have come forward to voice their suspicions.
Former DEA supervisor, Hector Berrellez, recently went as far as to say the entire thing was “arranged.” Speaking to Narco News, Berrellez said, “Chapo was protected by Mexican federal agents and military, by the Mexican government. He was making Peña Nieto look bad, and so the government decided to withdraw his security detail. Chapo was told he could either surrender, or he would be killed.”
Hector Berrellez, Former DEA Supervisor. Source: Proceso.
Berrellez, although retired, says he maintains contact with informants within the Mexican government and military. The information he has received from those informants accounts for the way Guzmán was captured without a struggle.
“He ran around with a several-hundred man security detail that included Mexican military and federal agents, yet, in the end, he is arrested like a rat in a hole. My sources are telling me it was an arranged thing.”
Another retired DEA agent, Phil Jordan, also expressed doubt regarding the developing storyline of El Chapo’s demise. During an interview with Univision, Jordan said he was surprised Guzmán was arrested now, while Mexico is under the control of the Institutional Revolutionary Party. He claims to have seen intelligence reports in the past that indicate Guzmán has been a strong financial supporter of the PRI and put millions of dollars into Peña Nieto’s campaign — presumably in exchange for continued protection.
Jordan’s comments support Berrellez’s assertion that El Chapo was indeed being protected by the Mexican government through its police and military, but, for whatever reason, that arrangement had come to an end.
As with Pablo Escobar in Colombia, or Al Capone in the United States, the “heroic” actions by our “saviors” in the state require willing villains to play their role. The details may vary, their fates not always the same, but the function these characters like El Chapo Guzmán play — time, and time again — is disturbingly similar.
As only one of several leaders within the Sinaloa Cartel — in itself only one of the very many drug cartels in Mexico — the arrest of Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán does absolutely nothing to change the realities on the ground in Mexico. The day-to-day operations of the Sinaloa Cartel continue without interruption, and the problems caused by this “drug war” that plague the people of the Mexico and the bordering regions of the United States go on unchallenged.
The theater on display this week is the same generations-old show we’ve been asked to cheer and applaud for: the same government created and imposed problem, the same predictable public reaction and consequence, and the same state-sanctioned solution. The absurdity continues, all the while nothing improves in the lives of ordinary people, and the interests of the corrupt political and crony elite are well preserved.

Interesting article with some thinking outside of the normal media sheep brainwash spectrum.

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766566
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yeah where the fuck was his security

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766571
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They snitched him out


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Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: tommykarate] #766603
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Interesting aritcle on the situation

[url=http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2014/03/narco-villain-el-chapo-s-arrest-packaged-media-consumption][/url]

Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766723
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Didn't they capture one of chapo's LT's a few months back? Probably got snitched on.


edit: just read this Article. it wouldn't surprise me at all. the US government has already been caught being implicit in the drug trade. The CIA especially has a long storied history of involvement in foreign drug trade, especially in south and central america.

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sounds like the mexi government has no use for chapo anymore

unless he's gonna get a slap on the wrist

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Itll be telling if he gets brought to the u.s.i think the only way hed willingly turn himself in like this is if he wasnt extradited


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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
sounds like the mexi government has no use for chapo anymore

unless he's gonna get a slap on the wrist


I doubt they can slap him on the wrist, the US Gov't will be applying major pressure to get him extradited.

Like Tommy Karate said the only way he gets out is if Sinaloa does a "Zeta Type" raid on the prison to get him out. And since the Zetas have successfully carried out raids of the sort, the Mexican Gov't has put tanks out in front of some of the prisons. I would think he is in a higher security one with maximum security even though that isn't saying much for Mexico.


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Re: El Chapo Guzman captured [Re: Scorsese] #766856
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Yea n im not to sure sinaloa has done any mass prison breaks ala los zetas.in other news tho they just captured the son of "la tuta" servando gomez.this guy startd talkn soon as he was caught.seems to happen alot with these big narcos down there.any way here if any1wants to check it out


http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/03/la-tutas-son-arrested.html?m=1


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http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/03/report-of-chayos-death.html?m=1


Pretty big if this is true.he was declared dead by the mexican govt in 2010i believe.with the autodefense movement goin on against the knight templar cartel gaining so much ground this is huge.la tuta ,z42 or chango are next.the mexi govt is dropn em quik.mite even see mayo or azul go

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