Yea Joey stood up,Not saying Phil should of or not but put your self there 45 years i rather be dead, If he would have got ten twelve he would be boss right now.And bet your ass he hates Joey being there. If anything would bring him back it would be to pay him a visit. Cus he loved jr.

Hey Serp

I wanna tell you the only reason I ever signed up to be on here was to hear stories from people that actually knew these guys, it's a pleasure to read your posts and they def seem genuine.
What about merlino crew, George borgesi, Mazzone, and Angelina, did you know them?
If so what are your thoughts on them?

Thanks

Salute from Chicago

@philipbracci Im just curious to know why you are so impressed with a rat? Want to know his fashion sense and favorite meal? His ratting affected a lot of close friends and their families so I cant understand why you anyone would idolize a rat. You bring up Joey, The guy was facing life on a few times and never even thought about flipping. he spent almost half his life in prison. Think about this, he was never convicted on a major violent crime and always was sent to max security prisons, Guy did hard time and still never opened his mouth. I take a guy like that over a rat any day.

Very true. But some of the rats are more interesting to hear from cause their willing to talk. I don't think anyone is idolizing rats but it's very interesting hearing what they have to talk about especially when you have the upper echelon of a crime family spilling the beans on family secrets. Massino, Casso, Leonetti, Gravano, the list goes on. The fact that their rats makes them interesting in itself.
Me personally is rather read more about these people than some others. But to each his own.

I can understand hearing what they have to say about certain rackets and hits but to ask about the guys favorite clothes designer and what he liked to eat, favorite color etc, seems more like a crush to me lol

Yea I hear ya lol

Hi Gingelllo..Well you're absolutely right, if you take it from the ''i'm looking out for #1'' strategy which all of them take but few admit too,I'd have more respect for him if he said ''these guys made my life hell,so i'm gonna take whatever I can and get out of it before i go etc..'' but he didn't do that because he didn't wanna be known to his former friends as a cowardly snitch...And in my opinion, using your son as an excuse well after the fact is very weak and being a cowardly snitch..He should light a candle every day that he's able to collect rents from property bought with drug and blood money...That's no offense meant to you either Gingello, just my 2 cents !!

And he's now going on tv with his face blocked out etc...Who's left out on the streets of philly that he would be so scared of hunting him down ?? That shows his cowardice more then anything !!

My last comments on philly...I don't like the joey merlino's of the world, but ya gotta give him that at least he's not a punk...He did his time like a man and now he's doing his thing..Hopefully a little older and wiser !!!

Nice: I did not know them,they were young and now" it would not make a diff, but when you are 25 and they are 15 it is a big diff.I did see a couple of them like George and Joey in the summers,they were there for Jr.they were just kids.I guess at the very end they were becoming men but by then it was ugly . Joe Ligambi was around now and then but he was a little older then us , but he was green, he was tending bar up at a couple spots here, He and yogi would be together sometimes. There was a little club up by Steve Wynn golden nugget and he tended bar there and also the next summer at a guy we knew Vince bar and restaurant up by the trump plaza.So thats really a no they were to young to be in the bizz part.

you wanna see the picture of me joe ligambi at the ted nugent concert back in 77? did you know ligambi was wild for the nudge and his song wang dang sweet poon tang?

I no I would love to see it.lol

Thanks buddy

Life51 I have no crush for Phil trust me. I'm mealy interested in getting to know what type of individual Leonetti was, not just as a mob guy but as a human being. Serp is someone who knows this person and I am asking questions. If you look at one post Serp posted he mentioned Phil dresses the part of gangster (turtle neck top, black jeans etc) and I understand from reading material that he liked good food and restaurants so I wanted to know more. There is no harm in asking? Or are we not allowed to ask? But to explain it a bit clearer for you, I wanted to know if he had what I call the "Gotti Syndrome" the flashy clothes etc.
Once again Life try not to be offended. Salute.

Not offended at all. I would say he had more of the Sammy the bull syndrome if anything lol. All these rats have a sob story. I just have zero respect for any of them.

They all have a sob story cause they have to justify why thy killed 20 people and destroyed countless lives and ruined their own. But I must say that I just love hearing about it.

Joey Merlino is more of man than Phil Leonetti can never claim to be, that's a fact.

When it comes down to being a man's man and a stand up guy, yea I have to fully agree with ya. We will see when Joey is facing a real long term like Phil but it seems like he might take it and smile but who am I to say.

What I can't understand is why in Cosa Nostra, specially Philadelphia, are relatives of informants allowed to get straightened out, not shelfed and are allowed to control a family? (Dominic Grande, Joey Merlino come to mind) Aren't they supposed to be excluded? Can anyone name any others either in Phily or NY who's family member cooperated.

I'd like to see the picture if you can find it.

Bean: And that goes om all the time.The thing that gets me is when you have to clip your cousin, or the boss has your brother or your father clipped. Then you have to still earn and act like all is good.I am not sure,There seems to be a whole lot of looking the other way when you are a associate or a soldier.

I will never understand that Serp. The Ciangalini immediately come to mind. Total insanity.

Yea the Ciangalini brothers were on opposite factions and one got killed. Look at mad Sam Destefano and his brother Mario killed their youngest brother cause he got addicted to drugs. Then Mario and Tony Spilotro kill Sam. So two brothers were killed out of three and they were murdered by each other. That is fucking nuts lol.

That was weird with the Chang brothers, their father must have been going out of his mind when they were fighting one another. There was another strange one: The Narducci kid's, Phil and Frank, they didn't do anything to avenge their own father's murder. Salvie Testa brought them in and told them he killed Chickie. All the mob guys at that time said it was unbelievable they didn't retaliate, and what was more weird was that they decided to work for Scarfo.

Hey Serp what do you think of Jason Cerbone playing Phil Leonetti in a film, if they ever made one? lol

The thing with the Ciancaglini brothers was a weird one.I think that somehow ''Chickie'' Ciancaglini and John favored Mikey Chang over Joey Chang.Supposetly Joey Merlino was getting advice during the ''Stanfa'' wars from his father Chuckie and Chickie even though they were in prison.Also when John got out in early 95 he was all in for the hit on Billy Veasey that Oct. to avenge Michael's killing.So basically Johnny Chang was aligned with the Merlino crew.Even though they[Merlino Crew] tried to kill his other brother ''Joey Chang'' at the Warfield Luncheonette Johnny Chang did nothing to seek revenge on the people responscible for that.I think a lot had to do with the fact that Joey Chang was with Stanfa and Michael was with Joey.

Joey has already faced just as much time as leonetti he's been tried for multiple murders and altogether he's served a little over 20 years

Serpiente; reading the transcripts on Nick Jrs case and they make mention to him meeting with Joey Ciancaglini jr in 2007 in reference to recruiting to take over philly. A couple questions...is Joey even capable of backing anyone in his state? What would make Nicky think approaching Joe was a good idea? As far as I understood, Joe Chang was considered off limits and more or less in "good standing"?

This happens all the time in the life. Not as much as it use to given technology,DNA and informants will all catch up with you.

Serp. were you really there when marie came to the bar. I believe some of your stories I've been reading over the past few weeks, but I feel like your embellishing some of them. No disrespect, I enjoy your posts.

Young :only thing is i cant remember if she put something in her car on the way in Angelonis ,I know she stopped at her car , and if it was 3 or 2 boxes .Look dont know what to tell u, in A.C. Italian neighborhood was 3 or 4 blocks long it went from bay to ocean ,That is 4 or 5 blocks we all knew everything and everybody. And i knew her and her 3 sisters and 2 bros they lived 5 houses from me.I was right there.. And they r the stories i can tell,that is nothing.. not even scratching the surface... sorry bro lived it !

Serp

What was Nicky Sr like? It sounds like he picked faults with everybody he met, even Phil. I bet it was like walking on egg shells when u was around that guy?