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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: Scorsese] #763254
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The fact that it was the Americans who introduced the undercover into the operation won't bode well for future joint efforts. The Italians are leery of American LCN to begin with.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
The fact that it was the Americans who introduced the undercover into the operation won't bode well for future joint efforts. The Italians are leery of American LCN to begin with.


Yeh, but when money is involved....;)


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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: LaLouisiane] #763272
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane


Ivy, is he pronouncing 'Ndrangheta correctly in the second video? I always have seen it spelled but never pronounced.


en DRAN gay ta.
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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: carmela] #763273
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane


Ivy, is he pronouncing 'Ndrangheta correctly in the second video? I always have seen it spelled but never pronounced.


en DRAN gay ta.
If you're feeling frisky, roll your r.


Thats HOT! grin


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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: Scorsese] #763277
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What I find fascinating about this is the existance and growth of a Calabrian faction within the orbit of the five families and their relationship with Italy and Canada.

Lupoi and friends have links with Canadian members and two Montreal mafiosi have been arrested within the last few months. Its an interesting view into how complex and intertwined mafia circles are.

It also shows that the Ndrangheta is making a push into North Amnerica via NYC and the Toronto-Montreal corridor.

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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: carmela] #763279
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Sorry to be pedantic but isn't it more like en - drang-geh-tah

I think this will definitely decrease the relationship with the Americans, the calabrians must know the Americans can't be trusted. Maybe they'll set up shop by themselves in NY? Without the assistAnce of the gambinos. After all they are experts at planting cells all across the globe.


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Originally Posted By: Antonio
Sorry to be pedantic but isn't it more like en - drang-geh-tah

I think this will definitely decrease the relationship with the Americans, the calabrians must know the Americans can't be trusted. Maybe they'll set up shop by themselves in NY? Without the assistAnce of the gambinos. After all they are experts at planting cells all across the globe.


You can't put the "g" on both syllables. It's either one or the other, and it's on the 3rd syllable. You spelled it geh, I spelled it gay. In my head, it's the same sound. You spelled the last syllable tah, I spelled it ta. Again..in my head it's the same sound.
The most important part is to put the emphasis on the DRAN.


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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: Antonio] #763287
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Originally Posted By: Antonio
Sorry to be pedantic but isn't it more like en - drang-geh-tah

I think this will definitely decrease the relationship with the Americans, the calabrians must know the Americans can't be trusted. Maybe they'll set up shop by themselves in NY? Without the assistAnce of the gambinos. After all they are experts at planting cells all across the globe.


Very close!...it's pronounced en-dran-geh-tah, with an italian accent of course. In Calabria its also referred as the honored society.

Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: Scorsese] #763366
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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: JoeTheBoss] #763368
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It seems like it would be easier for the NY families to just import their own coke then trade for Heroin instead of playing the looptedy loop as shown in the map.

Also it seems like once the money is made from the Heroin, they send it down to Georgetown to send more coke to Italy? Too many back and forths fellas...


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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: Scorsese] #763369
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i think it was more about the calabrians establishing more of a presence in NY and distributing the drugs themselves.


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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: LaLouisiane] #763389
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
It seems like it would be easier for the NY families to just import their own coke then trade for Heroin instead of playing the looptedy loop as shown in the map.

Also it seems like once the money is made from the Heroin, they send it down to Georgetown to send more coke to Italy? Too many back and forths fellas...


I don't think they were trading it for heroin. There were two fairly small heroin deals but they were completely separate to the coke deal. The coke was destined for italy and was gonna get everyone a nice cut. They were probably gonna continue shipping massive amounts like that through the same route and the money was gonna come back through the calabrians in new york, unless this was a one time deal thing thats the way i see it.

Also the gambinos could just buy coke and heroin from suppliers in new york or anywhere else in the US for that matter there would be no need for this kind operation where there going abroad and helping calabrians set up.

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When officials in New York and Rome jointly unveiled evidence of mobsters in two of the most notorious crime cartels moving drugs and money across three continents, no one mentioned the strange Canadian connection — Santa’s workshop in Ontario.

Emerging as a central figure in Tuesday’s arrests, accused of forging new links between the deadly, drug-rich Mafia of Italy’s Calabria region and the notorious American Mafia family once led by John Gotti, is a former Canadian resident who made thousands of wooden toys for charity in a prison workshop near Kingston, Ont.

Nicola Antonio Simonetta, who went by the name Tony in Canada, was heralded as the “convict-turned-Claus” for his toy-making charity work. That was in 1985.


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Tuesday, he was accused of being a Mafia member and masterminding a large-scale plot to smuggle heroin and cocaine around the world.

It is not the only Canadian link to the case: Agents say Canada was the planned destination of cocaine being smuggled into Europe from South America.

Also, another key figure, Mr. Simonetta’s son-in-law, Franco Lupoi, 44, claimed he could get anything across the Canada-U.S. border without passing a checkpoint; that the pair have family in Canada who sell large amounts of marijuana; and there are unindicted Canadian conspirators who may seek revenge against Mr. Lupoi for introducing an undercover police agent into the plot, authorities allege.





Further, a man born in Montreal, Eugenio Ignelzi, 38, was among those arrested in Italy.

But it was Mr. Simonetta on whom authorities focused as a key figure forging fresh links between Old and New World mobsters in a police operation codenamed “New Bridge.”

He was born on July 6, 1949, in Gioiosa Ionica, a town up a mountain road from the Ionian coast of southern Italy that is a hotbed of Mafia activity. He came to Canada as a young man, settling near Toronto, and working in construction and masonry.





In 1981, he was convicted of trafficking and conspiracy to traffic in narcotics and jailed for 14 years. He served much of his sentence in maximum security until arriving at the minimum-security Frontenac, near Kingston.

There, he and two other inmates handmade 2,200 toys in 1984, which were given to hospitals and charitable groups for needy children at Christmas. Mr. Simonetta masterminded that scheme, designing and cutting the wood for the toys, and supervising the painting and finishing. The next year he worked on even more.

“I’m not after money or anything, I’m trying to make kids happy,” he told the Ottawa Citizen, adding he would never sell them, only give them away.

Not long after, he was paroled and deported to Italy. There, he was accused of continuing not as a toy maker but in the drug trade: he was arrested in 2002 for conspiracy to traffic narcotics. In 2007, a local court ordered him to stay in Italy, pending the outcome of his appeal.

Authorities say he was a member of the Ursino clan of the ’Ndrangheta, the proper name of the Calabrian Mafia. He is related to the crime boss of Gioiosa Ionica, Antoni “Toto” Ursino.




With Mr. Simonetta’s rich ties to the ’Ndrangheta and his son-in-law’s links to New York’s Gambino family, the pair worked to build an impressive global drug network, authorities allege.

Mr. Simonetta visited his son-in-law in New York, who introduced him to a purported co-conspirator who was, in reality, an undercover agent.

Mr. Simonetta said he could guarantee unfettered passage of contraband in or out of the Italian port of Gioia Tauro because of a corrupt custom’s official, authorities said. Mr. Lupoi told the agent his father-in-law is cagey — “he’s always playing the safe side,” he said — because of his convictions in Canada.

When Mr. Simonetta returned to Italy, he met significant mafiosi, including the boss’s son, Franceso Ursino. Over two years, police recorded conversations, read emails, and tailed the suspects.

What emerged is a network smuggling the ’Ndrangheta’s heroin to the United States and South American cocaine to Europe through Guyana, with a plan to transship it to Canada. The cocaine was to be placed in dead fish, then frozen into ice blocks.


During meetings, undercover agents bought more than 1.3 kilos of heroin in Italy and another kilo in the United States, as well as a gun and a silencer, authorities say. Another accused was working to assemble a heavily armed crew of ’Ndrangheta soldiers in New York.

In Mr. Lupoi’s meetings with the undercover agent, Canada came up often. On June 5, 2012, he said he could get anyone across the border from Canada.

“No problem. Just let him fly to … He’s gotta be in Toronto or Montreal. They’re gonna come from the Indian reserve,” he said, according to documents filed in court.


The Indian guy that brings them across wants $3,000, but the people that wanted to come here, between my family there and me, we brought it up to [$20,000]
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“The Indian guy that brings them across wants $3,000, but the people that wanted to come here, between my family there and me, we brought it up to [$20,000].”

Mr. Lupoi bought more than 2.7 kg of marijuana from his cousin in Canada and sold it to the agent, saying his Canadian clan could supply up to 135 kg a month, documents allege.

Seventeen people were arrested in Italy and seven in the U.S.; none in Canada.

While the ’Ndrangheta has often worked with U.S. mobsters in the drug trade, it is usually through Sicilian Mafia members in Sicily or Canada. Authorities said this was an attempt to cut out the Sicilian middlemen and link the Calabrian and U.S. organizations directly.

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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: LaLouisiane] #763470
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague






Ivy, is he pronouncing 'Ndrangheta correctly in the second video? I always have seen it spelled but never pronounced.


En DRAN ghet a


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Re: Gambino-calabrian connection busted [Re: Scorsese] #763833
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'ndràngheta: Hon - drAn - ghe - ta.

Clans set base wherever it's worth it and wherever they're allowed to. America has had established ndrine for a while. The Ursinos and the Simonettas got busted before they could "inaugurate" their own.

The Schirripa ndrina was active in Corona, Queens, were it partnered with the Loz Zetas on the behalf of the Aquino-Scali clan. Its members got busted among other two hundred people in 2008 for distributing tons of cocaine from Latin America to NY and to Italy.
http://www.repubblica.it/2008/05/sezioni...ico-italia.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/wiseguys-smoked-global-drug-bust-article-1.323406

. Piromallis allegedly have people in Pennsylvania.
. Sergi-Marando-Trimbolis in South Bend, Indiana.
. Sales in Florida and Northern California.

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Franco Lupoi was close to Cali, but somehow Franky managed to stay out of this probe.

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