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Question about Lucchese hierarchy #762469
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Have a question about the leadership of the Lucchese family. I know that Stevie is running the family from his power base of the Bronx, but can anybody tell if he's spread out the family's leadership positions throughout the family's factions, or whether he's consolidated his power by giving a few Bronx capos increased authority, like the Genovese have allegedly done in the same area. Additionally, can anybody tell me who the major construction power players are in that family, and who is running Stevie's old crew/rackets? Thanks in advance.

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Hey buddy I see you are new here. I would use the search function and type in steven crea and you will get all the information you want much quicker than waiting for a reponse. At this point any guess on the Lucchese hierarchy is guess work on anyone's part. As far as we know Joe Cardi is still consigliere. Some people say Bowat Baratta is underboss, I have heard Joey Giampa is under, Joe Lubrano as under, you get the idea. Certain guys like Pizzaboy, Ivyleague, Skinny, or any other senior poster could give you more info than I can. I hope this helped a little bit.

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Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: JR18] #762495
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Gingello is right, a search to find older similar threads will give you the info you're most likely to get from this thread. Here are a couple of old threds to start with.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=750626

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=759933

Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: JR18] #762527
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Lubrano is still in jail so I doubt he is UB. His crew was a bunch of stick up guys and I don't know how much weight he really holds with the family as he is still young, relatively speaking. I'd say Baratta if I had to guess.


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Yep, no way Lubrano is UB. Pizzaboy knows his shit, certainly when it comes to the Bronx and I'm pretty sure he said Lubrano only got his button out of respect to one of his family members or something like that, some sort of favor, I can't remember.

As for who's the underboss It's pure guesswork on my part but I'd have to go with Dom Truscello, Crea is tight with him, or maybe Neil Migliore.

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For the record I agree that Lubrano is not UB. I just wanted to point out that just about every Capo in the family has been mentioned as possibly being UB. Bowat does make the most sense IMO.


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Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: JR18] #762638
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Joey Lubrano was sent to jail for allegedly assaulting some guys at a bar in Manhattan, and in actuality two guys from the Tanglewood Boys were responsible, Joe took the rap for them and one was the son of Tony Santorelli so they apparently owed him one

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"Have a question about the leadership of the Lucchese family. I know that Stevie is running the family from his power base of the Bronx, but can anybody tell if he's spread out the family's leadership positions throughout the family's factions, or whether he's consolidated his power by giving a few Bronx capos increased authority, like the Genovese have allegedly done in the same area. Additionally, can anybody tell me who the major construction power players are in that family, and who is running Stevie's old crew/rackets? Thanks in advance."

Let me check the family website and get back to you....

Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: TonyBoy117] #762643
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Originally Posted By: TonyBoy117
Joey Lubrano was sent to jail for allegedly assaulting some guys at a bar in Manhattan, and in actuality two guys from the Tanglewood Boys were responsible, Joe took the rap for them and one was the son of Tony Santorelli so they apparently owed him one

Tony the Kid is right. That's it in a nutshell. The Santorellis obviously felt that they owed Lubrano. The Luccheses, as a whole, do not. And that debt has already been paid anyway.

Besides, you don't start making captains and underbosses just because a guy is the right age and did a little jail time. I realize in this day and age that it gets lost. But when you're in the life, you're supposed to do the time.


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Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: TommyGambino] #762644
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Pizzaboy knows his shit, certainly when it comes to the Bronx

And thank you, Tommy. But I'm no smarter than anyone else on the board. I'm just old as shit, so I've seen a little more lol.


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Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: pizzaboy] #762654
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Pizzaboy knows his shit, certainly when it comes to the Bronx

And thank you, Tommy. But I'm no smarter than anyone else on the board. I'm just old as shit, so I've seen a little more lol.


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Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: Gingello101182] #762657
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Originally Posted By: Gingello101182
Hey buddy I see you are new here. I would use the search function and type in steven crea and you will get all the information you want much quicker than waiting for a reponse. At this point any guess on the Lucchese hierarchy is guess work on anyone's part. As far as we know Joe Cardi is still consigliere. Some people say Bowat Baratta is underboss, I have heard Joey Giampa is under, Joe Lubrano as under, you get the idea. Certain guys like Pizzaboy, Ivyleague, Skinny, or any other senior poster could give you more info than I can. I hope this helped a little bit.


While we can speculate all day, just like we didn't know Crea was boss until the feds released that info, we won't know who's underboss or if Caridi is still consigliere until further info comes out.


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Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: JR18] #762698
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"While we can speculate all day, just like we didn't know Crea was boss until the feds released that info, we won't know who's underboss or if Caridi is still consigliere until further info comes out."

Yeah, the family website is down right now.

Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: JR18] #775147
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My speculation is either Baratta, Migliore or Cataia. Leaning more towards Baratta and Cataia. Migliore is aging.. and seems on the verge of retirement.


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Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
My speculation is either Baratta, Migliore or Cataia. Leaning more towards Baratta and Cataia. Migliore is aging.. and seems on the verge of retirement.

Stevie hates Bowat like poison. No way, no how wink .


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Really? I thought Stevie and Bowat were Bronx guys? I would like to know the reason. Did it deal with Amuso and Casso's reign?

Who's your speculation as underboss?

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Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
Really? I thought Stevie and Bowat were Bronx guys? I would like to know the reason. Did it deal with Amuso and Casso's reign?

Bowat was one of the plotters planning to whack Stevie in the early '90s. He sold out his Bronx/Harlem roots and aligned himself with those maniacs in Brooklyn.


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Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: JR18] #775152
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Makes sense. I guess Bowat and Stevie are tolerating eachother now because their both on the streets. Maybe a peace agreement was made?


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Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
Makes sense. I guess Bowat and Stevie are tolerating eachother now because their both on the streets. Maybe a peace agreement was made?

Who knows?

It's 2014. These guys rarely kill each other anymore. And even if they did, Stevie has all the horses.

They're making a ton of bread through his construction smarts and no one wants to rock the boat. Bowat's not in a position to argue.


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Re: Question about Lucchese hierarchy [Re: pizzaboy] #775154
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Makes sense. Thanks for the replies!


“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.” ~ John Gotti.
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Like I said in a recent thread about Bowat, if he wants back in it will be as soldier, nothing more. PB confirmed by suspicions about Crea hating him, even though he was a Bronx guy they will consider him a Brooklyn loyalist after the plot against Crea, that's a fact. A number of Brooklyn guys have been released recently but Crea's top guy in the brooklyn faction is John castellucci and he's one of the top guys.

As for Migliore, he apparently got offered Underboss spot in the 80's and turned it down, why would he want the job now? He's RICH, now that Madonna and Joey Dee have been under indictment for years if Dom Trusecello is still active UB goes to him, Crea and Dom were tight in construction, Dom is old as hell though and has a ton of money so I wouldn't be surprised if he retired.

If I had to guess the administration I'd go with..

Crea Boss
Castellucci as UB
Caridi Consig

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Anyone have any current info or know the status of John "Johnny Sideburns" Cerrella and Frank "Big Frank" Lastorino?

Cheers.


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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Anyone have any current info or know the status of John "Johnny Sideburns" Cerrella and Frank "Big Frank" Lastorino?

They're engaged.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Anyone have any current info or know the status of John "Johnny Sideburns" Cerrella and Frank "Big Frank" Lastorino?

They're engaged.


Lmao.

You're on a roll of late with your 'chumlee's' and 'Slutty Gal 19's' ol son wink

I did leave myself wide open there I'll admit.


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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
You're on a roll of late with your 'chumlee's' and 'Slutty Gal 19's' ol son wink

I gave up booze for Lent. But I've been drunk since Easter. I feel much sharper now. I'm glad it shows in my posts whistle .


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Interesting. I did know that Migliore turned down the position of Underboss, but i thought it was offered in the 70's. I did read however, he did serve as Acting Underboss in the 70's despite turning down the official position.

I also would have thought that Danny Cataia would be running Brooklyn instead of Castelucci.

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Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
I also would have thought that Danny Cataia would be running Brooklyn instead of Castelucci.


Think he went out with the bathwater with the old regime.
Amuso guy.


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I've heard joey giampa's name mentioned as a possible underboss aswel , like pizzaboy said no point speculating until an FBI report comes out , anyone can throw names around

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that must piss the shit out of neil miglore that casso and vic tried to have him whacked at a lil girls bday party.it happened in 1993 maybe casso order it not amuso but im surprised the Bronx guys didn't throw vic amuso off the thrown in the mid 90tys after all his Brooklyn guys flipped fat pete,lil al,goias's. he looks pretty good health wise by all those picture we see of him in his pigeon club. just doesn't want the headaches.vic was a lot like scarfo they were just nuts. cool pic of them with vic oreana. guesss that bullshit he renouces the mafia and is into god bill cutolo jr said. he posing in pics with guys that have 100murders between them. im guessing crea would go with a real young underboss like how chin had young barney in his 30tys running the family. my guess and the consig a lil older. carmine sessa was a young consign at like 48yrs old.

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This week's Gangland column retracted its stance from a few years ago where they said Crea was the boss - according to the article they claim that Amuso is still the boss with Crea as acting boss. Madonna is also up there as street boss/UB.


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