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Il Patino
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10/01/05 01:19 PM
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In the novel a nickname of Vito Corleone is Il Patino...
What is that? I know that Il Padrino means the Godfather but i've never heard of il Patino...
Since my Italian (and sicilian) isn't very good I asked my father (who is a Sicilian)...He never heard of the word Patino..Neither does my uncle (who is also Sicilian)....
So, does anybody knows what it is? Maybe a western-sicilian dialect or something (because my family is from eastern-sicily)....
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Re: Il Patino
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10/02/05 03:17 AM
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or it could have been a typo
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Re: Il Patino
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He was called Il Patino many times, not just one time...
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Re: Il Patino
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Originally posted by JustMe:
In which language were you reading the book, juventus?
I've read it in English, and there's no mention of this word. In Dutch... It's really strange that it isn't mentioned in the English version.. The first time it's mentioned in my dutch version is at the end of the paragraph were don Vito is hearing the request of Nazorine (Enzo the baker). On the end of the paragrpah my dutch version said this (I translated it to english): There was just one man who can take care of this. Il Patino. Don Corleone. What word do they use on that place in the original (english) version?
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Re: Il Patino
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10/03/05 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by juventus: Originally posted by JustMe:
[b] In which language were you reading the book, juventus?
I've read it in English, and there's no mention of this word.
It's really strange that it isn't mentioned in the English version..
The first time it's mentioned in my dutch version is at the end of the paragraph were don Vito is hearing the request of Nazorine (Enzo the baker).
On the end of the paragrpah my dutch version said this (I translated it to english):
There was just one man who can take care of this. Il Patino. Don Corleone.
What word do they use on that place in the original (english) version? [/b]They use GodFather. And there was only one man who could arrange such an affair. The Godfather. Don Corleone.
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Re: Il Patino
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10/04/05 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by JustMe:
I think it's a mistaken "Il Padrino". As far as I know, that's Godfather in Italian. Yes thats true
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Re: Il Patino
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12/04/05 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by Lavinia from Italy: I think it's the Sicilian for "Padrino". In Sicily they pronounce the "d" and "t" consonants in a very peculiar way, and due to that pronunciation in the "dr" consonant group the "r" almost turn silent. I wonder if this make any sense to you?   Could be yes. The sicilian D followed by an R could very well sound like a T. But you can still hear the R, even though it's a strange sicilian R. And if it's sicilian it would be "U Padrinu", and that's pretty far from Il Patino. O sbaglio Lavinia?
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Re: Il Patino
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01/16/06 06:04 PM
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That's all nice,but I also have una domanda  What is 'padrone'?I know for 'padrino'...
You were right about one thing. I have been watching. Couldn't help myself. Watching, waiting, holding my breath. But I'm no puppeteer Kevin, I don't make things happen. Doesn't work like that. Free will, it's like butterfly wings, one touch and it never gets off the ground. I only set the stage. You pull your own strings.
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Re: Il Patino
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01/18/06 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Don Larzono:
And if it's sicilian it would be "U Padrinu", and that's pretty far from Il Patino. sorry for the delay, DL, I saw this post just now!  Well, "Patino" is definitely not an Italian word, but it could be an Italianized Sicilian, though. You know what I mean? For instance, if I want to Italianize an English word I could say "il godfader", which is the way a less skilled Italian than I (  ) would pronounce the word "godfather"!
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Re: Il Patino
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02/27/06 08:25 PM
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it happens the same with the Godfather in spanish, for Tom Hagen is written "Consigliori" instead of "Consigliere". Maybe it is a mistake of the editor and not the type because it appears all the time, maybe it happens the same with il patino...
in mine it's "Consigliori", and i live in Connecticut - bought at
borders.
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Re: Il Patino
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04/17/06 01:09 PM
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my godfather novel also says consigliori and i live in england
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