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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759953
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Seems to me that's were the info came from and the Feds have been sitting on it

Re: News [Re: Snakes] #759954
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why would he bury a body at his own house? bit stupid of him considering who he was.

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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759984
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Another video, including the perp walks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Cz3dbFJTo

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Re: News [Re: Camarel] #759986
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: ovation32
Maybe we will finally find out what Tommy Di Fiore looks like. There are three pictures in the NY Post article currently on their homepage. One is clearly Vinny A. I am not sure if either of the two overweight gentlemen pictured are Tommy D.


This is Tommy D -



WAYY off topic but the FBI chick is kinda hott, no?......


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Re: News [Re: Beanshooter] #759987
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
[quote=domwoods74]52-year-old John "Bazoo" Ragano and Jack Bonventre, whose age wasn't clear.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Luf...-241633971.html


So Ragano was 17 and they had him involved in the heist? Skeptical on that one to say the least.

Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759988
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Some of these guys are being indicted on a separate extortion charge also involving Asaro. You have to read the indictment to see who was charged with what.

Indictment:
http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/files/bonanno-indictment-1.pdf


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Re: News [Re: azguy] #760011
01/23/14 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: azguy
This should be interesting, they'll need a first hand witness as what other proof could they have against these guys.

They certainly don't have an eye witness to the crime, dna, fingerprints or left over money...

In all reality these charges "stink"


Agreed. Like Snakes said we will have to see what Massino had to do with this.

Just speculation but I wonder if the Feds have gotten some info from Massino and another CW and have been sitting on it for a decade because one of two reasons:

1. To make sure they have an air tight case.

2. They don't have much but decided to round people up for one last shot at prosecution before everyone dies off. They figure it'll shake the Bonnanos admin up and maybe someone will flip out of the blue.

I think it's the second reason IMHO.

I heard a interview on NPR with the retired Fed agent who headed the case in the 1970s and '80s (whose name ironically was Carbone) and he said that they "knew these guys were involved from the beginning but could get enough proof to charge them," and that "I never saw this coming; most everyone involved is dead and I thought the case was dead and gone"


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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #760014
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The 63 page Asaro Detention Memo the feds filed.

It's a pretty decent read.

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1008956/asaro-detention-memo.pdf

Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #760015
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pretty cool story this guy tommy d must have seen this coming the feds have been following him and his buddys everywhere yaking pictures violating guys paroles. but why the fbi waste its time to bring him to court on conspiracy to extort that's some bullshit. so he's underboss and one of his goons kicked up some money to him. this will bring jimmy bresslin out of retirement to write about a hit from was 69 or 79 the papers had it both was. someone on this site kept saying the older asaro is a drunk, he is a rich one. so tommy d official underboss gonna guess mike nose really is official boss and they have probably 100 guys on the street now Anthony rabito must be consig. he gave a ride to the capo chilli and that got his parole revoked. last time vinny a was in trouble they gave him state time for lying on his license app. just cant keep the bonanoo family down. nose gets out in 4 5 yrs. I also wonder is that j.b. indelico retired he skated by all the rats vitale massino ect no indictment. probably dead his name didn't come up at that last xmis party.

Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #760017
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EDIT : Correction: CW-3 is most likely Vitale and CW-2 is Massino

"V. Asaro was elevated to the position of captain and reported to CW-2,
who was at that time the boss of the Bonanno family. After a few years,
CW-2 demoted V. Asaro to the position of soldier because he was
abusing his leadership position by “robbing” the individuals who
reported to him.

CW-3 testified at a trial in the Eastern District of New York
in 2006 that he called upon J. Asaro to dispose of the car in
which a Bonanno family captain named Gerlando Sciascia was
murdered, and J. Asaro complied and disposed of the car.

According to another cooperating witness (“CW-3”),6 as of the
early 2000s, V. Asaro was reporting to his son, defendant
Jerome Asaro, who was a captain in the Bonanno family.

CW-3 is a former high-ranking member of the Bonanno family who
pled guilty in the Eastern District of New York to
racketeering conspiracy, including multiple predicate acts of
murder, as well as extortion and illegal gambling, pursuant to
a cooperation agreement. CW-3 cooperated with the government
in the hopes of obtaining leniency at sentencing and
protection in the Witness Security Program. CW-3’s information
has been corroborated by other sources of information,
including but not limited to consensual recordings,
confidential sources, and cooperating witnesses. At
sentencing, the government moved, pursuant to U.S.S.G. §
5K1.1, for a downward departure based upon the substantial
assistance provided by CW-3 to the government; CW-3 was
sentenced to approximately seven years’ imprisonment.


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Re: News [Re: LaLouisiane] #760018
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
WAYY off topic but the FBI chick is kinda hott, no?......

That hag (No offense to my co-FBI SA wink ) on the left??

What are you high or something? If yes...give me some of what your smoking. lol

Not even close to hot.

Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #760023
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Man,If infact it is Massino,he just has done so much damage.I wonder if this Katz was any relation to Andrei Katz?Demeo victim who also was going to cooperate.I have read where Demeo had cut up bodies for Massino and Good Looking Sal.It is possible I suppose.

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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #760027
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CW-2 is definitely Massino. CW-3 is most likely Sal Vitale.


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Re: News [Re: Giancarlo] #760050
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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
WAYY off topic but the FBI chick is kinda hott, no?......

That hag (No offense to my co-FBI SA wink ) on the left??

What are you high or something? If yes...give me some of what your smoking. lol

Not even close to hot.


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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #760054
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extra good stuff here http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ja...lufthansa-heist
seems asaro didnt get his share too


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Re: News [Re: LaLouisiane] #760135
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
WAYY off topic but the FBI chick is kinda hott, no?......

That hag (No offense to my co-FBI SA wink ) on the left??

What are you high or something? If yes...give me some of what your smoking. lol

Not even close to hot.


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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #760152
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One of the local news crews here went to Tommy D's house out in Suffolk County. A guy answered the door with his face covered, threatening to call the cops. Neighbors of Asaro and Tommy D said the same thing you'd come to expect: Nice old guys, waved hello, loved their kids.

Interesting that Asaro has Gerald McMahon as his lawyer, who has already said his client gave him marching orders to go to trial. No plea here. McMahon loves dancing on the face of the AUSA. He represented Rom and had him walking out the courtroom a free man.

Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #760178
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http://gangstersinc.ning.com/m/blogpost?id=6329524%3ABlogPost%3A58083
some of the wiretaps. some you find amusing. so sopranos i have to say haha


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Re: News [Re: short841] #760188
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Originally Posted By: short841
http://gangstersinc.ning.com/m/blogpost?id=6329524%3ABlogPost%3A58083
some of the wiretaps. some you find amusing. so sopranos i have to say haha

Thanks for posting this. Asaro has seen a lot...

And also, who is Asaro's cousin who ratted?

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Re: News [Re: short841] #760190
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Originally Posted By: short841
http://gangstersinc.ning.com/m/blogpost?id=6329524%3ABlogPost%3A58083
some of the wiretaps. some you find amusing. so sopranos i have to say haha


Thanks for this some interesting stuff here. I wonder how the Bonanno family will work now.

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lol Asaro's wiretap is hilarious.

Re: News [Re: Camarel] #760194
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: short841
http://gangstersinc.ning.com/m/blogpost?id=6329524%3ABlogPost%3A58083
some of the wiretaps. some you find amusing. so sopranos i have to say haha


Thanks for this some interesting stuff here. I wonder how the Bonanno family will work now.


Mancuso will get someone else to keep the seat warm for him until he gets out, if there is someone willing to step up.


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Re: News [Re: Dellacroce] #760195
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: short841
http://gangstersinc.ning.com/m/blogpost?id=6329524%3ABlogPost%3A58083
some of the wiretaps. some you find amusing. so sopranos i have to say haha


Thanks for this some interesting stuff here. I wonder how the Bonanno family will work now.


Mancuso will get someone else to keep the seat warm for him until he gets out, if there is someone willing to step up.


Tony Rabito? The only member of the reported ruling panel before Mancuso as boss was reported, who is not in prison. The only other person i can think of is Badalamenti.

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Is T.G. shelved? If not, maybe him

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He's shelved.


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Why would anyone want the top spot in the Bonanno family. every boss or acting they have is indicted within a year or two. The family is a mess.

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Is T.G. shelved? If not, maybe him


He's shelved, i'd say it's most likely Rabito or Badalamenti. Who knows though, because i doubt anyone predicted Difiore being a major player.

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When Massino flipped, the Bonannos were about as wrecked as any of the five families have ever been - how they stabilised "somewhat" was pretty close to a miracle.


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Vincent Asaro, mobster linked to 1978 Lufthansa heist, inspired ‘Goodfellas’ scene
The 78-year-old Howard Beach resident remained defiant, despite time and open-heart surgery, until his Thursday arrest.

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BY JOHN MARZULLI AND LARRY MCSHANE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

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Vincent Asaro, 78, (center) being taken from FBI Headquarters at 26 Federal Plaza Thursday. Asaro was a participant as well as a witness to Mafia mayhem from murder to arson to one of organized crime’s most storied heists — the 1978 Lufthansa robbery, authorities say.

When gangster Tommy DeSimone pumped a bullet into a kid named Spider’s foot, future mob capo Vincent Asaro took the bleeding youth to get patched up.

The shooting, one of the most indelible scenes from the mob movie classic “Goodfellas,” epitomizes the geriatric gangster’s front-row seat to decades of mob history.

Asaro, 78, was a participant as well as a witness to Mafia mayhem from murder to arson to one of organized crime’s most storied heists — the 1978 Lufthansa robbery.

The Queens tough guy pops up several times in Nicholas Pileggi’s “Wiseguy,” plotting with mobsters Jimmy (The Gent) Burke and Henry Hill — later portrayed on film by Robert De Niro and Ray Liotta respectively.

Asaro kept a much lower profile than his fellow felons. The father of three put his kids through Catholic school in Queens while working his way up the mob hierarchy.


Asaro, whose rap sheet dates to 1957, became a made member of the Bonanno family more than 30 years ago.

He initially worked for the crew run by future family boss (Big Joey) Massino — who later flipped and implicated his standup underling to the feds.

Asaro eventually became a family captain, and recently served on the panel that ran the Bonannos. Four mob informants from three crime families linked Asaro to the Lufthansa robbery.

The gangster was running the Bonanno crew at JFK Airport at the time of the $6 million heist.

Mastermind Burke, though a Luchese family associate, followed mob protocol by cutting Asaro in on the near-perfect crime.

Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci) shoots Spider (Mike Imperioli) in 'Goodfellas,' before future mob capo Vincent Asaro takes the bleeding youth to get patched up.

Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci) shoots Spider (Mike Imperioli) in 'Goodfellas,' before future mob capo Vincent Asaro takes the bleeding youth to get patched up.

The two had a history. Burke and Asaro used a dog chain to kill a suspected “rat” in 1969, burying the body in a Queens basement, according to court papers.

As law enforcement attention followed the JFK robbery, Asaro’s bar on Rockaway Blvd. became a gathering spot for his co-conspirators.

According to court papers, Asaro brought his son Jerome into the mob family — and the two conspired to torch another Queens social club.

The owner of a nearby Italian restaurant went to Asaro to complain that the club’s new owners hoped to attract an African-American clientele, court papers said. Jerome Asaro and a second man allegedly doused the club with gasoline, then tossed a lit rubber ball through a window to set the place ablaze.


Michael Imperioli as Spider in 'Goodfellas.' The Spider shooting epitomizes the Asaro's front-row seat to decades of mob history.

Vincent Asaro greeted one of the arsonists with a kiss on each cheek in appreciation.

Father and son were also charged with conspiring to kill a relative suspected as a government informant during the mid-1980s.

The target — unlike Spider, later killed by DeSimone — survived.

Despite time and open-heart surgery, the Howard Beach resident remained defiant until his Thursday arrest.

Secretly recorded conversations captured Asaro explaining his hands-on approach to resolution dispute in a spat with a Bonanno associate.

“He’s a jerk---,” snapped Asaro in a typically profane rant. “I had a big beef with him two weeks ago. I hit him in the head with a bottle. He’s lost his f------ mind.”

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