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Re: News [Re: ovation32] #759873
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Originally Posted By: ovation32
Interestingly, Tommy D was merely charged with conspiracy to extort and extortion itself (neither seemingly racketeering predicates). Makes you think the feds were doing anything to get him off the street.


That's what I believe too. Just shake the bonannos up by indicting him also. Any big fish left for bonannos out on the street?


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Prob anthony rabito

Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759875
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Yeh he's always been linked to become the acting boss over the last few years but it's never happened. It's probably is time to step up. They sure are having a rough ride the bonanno's


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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759876
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So what are they charging the guys who are currently in their 50's with? They would have been teenagers back then. Unless there is more to the indictment.

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I think they are charged with extortion etc. Not with the Lufthansa heist. Think it's only asaro being charged for the murder


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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759878
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Some names that come to mind:

-Vinny TV (simply because he was already there)
-Joe Sammartino
-Anthony Rabito
-Frank Porco
-Joe Indelicato
-Toto Catalano

Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759880
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Joe sammartino rings a bell...how do I know his name?


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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759882
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He runs the bonnano operations in Jersey

Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759883
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Ah yes. You think asaro will plead? Or take advantage how it's 30 years old and a lot of people who were involved are now deceased?


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Re: News [Re: domwoods74] #759884
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
He runs the bonnano operations in Jersey

Specifically he operates out of bayonne.


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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759890
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Porco has been retired for a while.

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Sam martino was born and raised in jersey city's Marion projects


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Sammartino


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Maybe we will finally find out what Tommy Di Fiore looks like. There are three pictures in the NY Post article currently on their homepage. One is clearly Vinny A. I am not sure if either of the two overweight gentlemen pictured are Tommy D.

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"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone

"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
Re: News [Re: ovation32] #759895
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Originally Posted By: ovation32
Maybe we will finally find out what Tommy Di Fiore looks like. There are three pictures in the NY Post article currently on their homepage. One is clearly Vinny A. I am not sure if either of the two overweight gentlemen pictured are Tommy D.


This is Tommy D -


Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759896
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Extra surveillance will be on the "nose" to see if he will send orders out


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Re: News [Re: Jrtyler] #759898
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Vinny Asaro -



Jerry Asaro -



Jack Bonventre -



John Ragano -


Re: News [Re: Camarel] #759900
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Di Fiore looks a little like Burt Young, that is Rockys brother in law Paulie for those who don't watch the movies. I wonder where the info came from and why it took so long, I
doubt it was Massino, lets see if any guy out on the streets suddenly disappeared from his usual haunts. Jimmy Burke sure did a lot of killing.

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These younger guys would of been teenagers or early twenties when this happened?


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Originally Posted By: GerryLang
Di Fiore looks a little like Burt Young, that is Rockys brother in law Paulie
for those who don't watch the movies.

I always thought Young could of played Tony Caponigro if they ever made a movie
on the Philly guys and the hit on Bruno.


Re: News [Re: short841] #759920
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Originally Posted By: short841
These younger guys would of been teenagers or early twenties when this happened?


They have all been charged with Extortion and Racketeering. This is what it says about the murder - The indictment alleges that in December 1969, Asaro “together with others ... did knowingly and intentionally cause the death of Paul Katz,” but provides no further details.

So the only person linked to the murder so far is Vinny Asaro, the only other person mentioned so far that could've been involved imo is Tommy D.

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How are they ever going to get Asaro for the murder? Most everyone involved is now dead and there seems to be plenty of other guys that could have committed it.

It sounds like a murder conspiracy, but all the other conspirators and the actual hitman are dead. Maybe Massino was involved.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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one article was reporting that they were all indicted for the heist. but appears not. they must have good evidence to indict asaro or they wouldn't have made the arrest


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Sounds like the feds are bored, and a us attorney wants to put "got a guy shown in goodfellas" on his resume.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Only picture I'd seen of DiFiore before today.


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Home • New York • Press Releases • 2014 • Bonanno Family Captain Vincent Asaro Indicted for Participating in the 1978 Lufthansa $5 Million Robbery at JFK Airport...
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Bonanno Family Captain Vincent Asaro Indicted for Participating in the 1978 Lufthansa $5 Million Robbery at JFK Airport and the Murder of Paul Katz, Who Disappeared in 1969
Body Parts Buried in Queens, New York Basement Discovered by FBI in June 2013; Five Defendants Arrested and Charged Variously with 45-Year Racketeering Conspiracy, Including Predicate Acts of Murder, Solicitation to Murder, Robbery, Extortion

U.S. Attorney’s Office
January 23, 2014

Eastern District of New York
(718) 254-7000
BROOKLYN, NY—Earlier today, an indictment was unsealed charging five members of the Bonanno organized crime family of La Cosa Nostra (the Bonanno family) variously with racketeering conspiracy, including predicate acts of murder, conspiracy to commit murder, solicitation to murder, robbery and extortion, and other crimes. Bonanno family administration members and captains Vincent Asaro and Thomas Di Fiore; Bonanno family captain Jerome Asaro; Bonanno family acting captain Jack Bonventre; and Bonanno family soldier John Ragano were arrested earlier today and are scheduled to be arraigned this afternoon before U.S. Magistrate Judge Marilyn D. Go at the federal courthouse in Brooklyn.
The charges and arrests were announced by Loretta E. Lynch, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, and George Venizelos, Assistant Director in Charge, Federal Bureau of Investigation, New York Field Office.
“As alleged, Vincent Asaro devoted his adult life to the Bonanno crime family, with a criminal career that spanned decades. Far from a code of honor, theirs was a code of violence and brute force. Those suspected of cooperating with law enforcement paid with their lives. Asaro helped pull off the 1978 Lufthansa robbery—still the largest bank robbery in New York history. Neither age nor time dimmed Asaro’s ruthless ways, as he continued to order violence to carry out mob business in recent months. The arrests and charges announced today are a testament to the relentless pursuit of justice by law enforcement,” stated United States Attorney Lynch. Ms. Lynch extended her grateful appreciation to the FBI for its extraordinary work in bringing these defendants to account for the charged crimes.
“These ‘goodfellas’ thought they had a license to steal, a license to kill, and a license to do whatever they wanted. However, today’s arrests of the five members of the Bonanno crime family brings an end to their violent and ruthless ways. As alleged in the indictment, Vincent Asaro and his co-conspirators were not only involved in typical mob activities of extortion and murder, but Asaro himself was in on one of the most notorious heists—the Lufthansa robbery in 1978. It may be decades later, but the FBI’s determination to investigate and bring wiseguys to justice will never waver,” stated FBI Assistant Director in Charge Venizelos.
As alleged in the indictment and a detention memorandum filed by the government, over the last 45 years, Vincent Asaro and various co-conspirators, including his son Jerome Asaro, engaged in a pattern of violence and threats of violence in order to profit from their illegal activity and evade prosecution. The indictment announced today is the result of a long-term investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation that utilized, among other law enforcement techniques, consensual recordings, cooperating witnesses and confidential sources, and electronic and visual surveillance.
1978 Lufthansa Heist

Vincent Asaro is charged for his participation in the 1978 robbery at the Lufthansa Terminal at John F. Kennedy Airport of more than $5 million in United States currency and approximately $1 million in jewelry. Asaro, Lucchese crime family associate James “Jimmy the Gent” Burke, and their co-conspirators each expected to receive approximately $750,000 in cash and large quantities of gold jewelry from the proceeds of the robbery.
Murder of Paul Katz

Vincent Asaro is charged with the murder of Paul Katz, who disappeared in 1969, and Asaro and his son Jerome are also charged with accessory after the fact for their roles in moving Katz’s body to prevent its discovery by law enforcement. Vincent Asaro and Burke allegedly strangled Katz with a dog chain because they believed he was cooperating with law enforcement. They then buried his body in the basement of a vacant home in Queens, New York, where it remained until the mid-1980s when, alerted to a state law enforcement investigation into Katz’s murder, Vincent Asaro directed Jerome Asaro and another individual to dig up Katz’s body and move it. Almost 35 years later, in June 2013, the FBI executed a search warrant at the Queens residence, which was still owned by the Burke family, and recovered remnants of Katz’s remains buried in the basement. Katz’s identity was confirmed through DNA testing.
Solicitation to Murder

Vincent Asaro and Jerome Asaro are charged with solicitation to murder their cousin, identified in the indictment as John Doe #1, because he was perceived to be a “rat” for testifying against another family member in a federal trial on fraud charges.
Armed Robberies

Vincent Asaro and Jerome Asaro are charged variously with participating in additional armed robberies and armed robbery conspiracies, including the robbery of approximately $1 million in gold salts.
Extortion

All five defendants, including Thomas Di Fiore, the highest ranking member of the Bonanno family at liberty, are charged with using and conspiring to use extortionate means to collect an extension of credit from a Bonanno family associate. During an April 26, 2013 consensual recording of Vincent Asaro and John Ragano, Ragano asked Asaro, “When do we stab this guy...in the neck? That’s what I want to know.” Asaro responded, “Stab him today.” Asaro continued, “I told you to give him a...beating. Give him a...beating, I told you that. Listen, I sent three guys there to give him a beating already, so it won’t be the first time he got a beating from me.”
The case has been assigned to United States Senior District Judge Allyne R. Ross. If convicted, Vincent Asaro faces life imprisonment, and each of his co-defendants faces a statutory maximum sentence of 20 years’ imprisonment.
The government’s case is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorneys Nicole M. Argentieri and Alicyn Cooley.
The charges in the indictment are merely allegations, and the defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.
Defendants:

Vincent Asaro
Age: 78
Howard Beach, New York
Jerome Asaro
Age: 55
Bethpage, New York
Jack Bonventre
Age: 45
Campbell Hall, New York
Thomas Di Fiore, also known as “Tommy D”
Age: 70
Commack, New York
John Ragano, also known as “Bazoo”
Age: 52
Rockaway, New York
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Tiny picture of Jerry Asaro, only one on the web I think. Damn he's ugly lol.




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This should be interesting, they'll need a first hand witness as what other proof could they have against these guys.

They certainly don't have an eye witness to the crime, dna, fingerprints or left over money...

In all reality these charges "stink"


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We still don't know what role Massino will play in this, if any.


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