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Civilian killed by mob in 1969 #757116
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Trying to find news article about a civilian killed by the mob in 1969. I've searched all over web, googled my brains out. Any suggestions? Thanks

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A "civillian" being whacked is unfortunatly not as rare as you might think, and it happens for a veriety of reasons. You would have to narrow this down a bit to find out whatincident you are talking about


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Sorry my bad, didn't see the 1969 until my last post.

John Favara, Gotti's neighbor.

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The mob hit that rocked New York
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When two innocent men were killed by mobsters in 1972 at a Manhattan eatery, the Mafia took a hit too.
August 10, 2012|By Steve Dougherty
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"Yeah, I left it noisy. That way it scares any pain-in-the-ass innocent bystanders away."

"The Godfather"was still playing in New York theaters five months after its release and audiences were still greeting that line with nervous laughter when, on Friday, Aug. 11, 1972, a hit man from Las Vegas walked into the Neopolitan Noodle, an Italian restaurant on Manhattan's East 79th Street, at the height of the dinner hour rush.



Mistaking four businessmen at the crowded bar for his actual targets, Colombo family acting boss "Little Allie" Persico and three mob lieutenants, the hit man opened fire with two long-barreled pistols, killing two of the businessmen — kosher beef wholesalers from Westchester County and Long Island — and wounding their companions.

The men were old friends meeting to celebrate a daughter's wedding engagement. They arrived at the Noodle as the Persico party was being seated for dinner. While the four wiseguys were out of harm's way at a table in the dining room, the hit man shot the four innocents who had taken their places at the bar. The businessmen were casualties of a Colombo family civil war that had ignited four months earlier in spectacular fashion when "Crazy Joe" Gallo was gunned down at Umberto's Clam House in Little Italy.

The explosion of violence at the Neopolitan Noodle 40 years ago this week — one of the few times in the mob's long, bloody history when truly innocent bystanders were killed in a hit gone wrong — left in its wake an outraged citizenry and a city full of moviegoers who didn't find the reality of warring Mafia families as entertaining as it was on screen.

"The Godfather" celebrated the mob at the height of its wealth and murderous power. Gay Talese's nonfiction book about the Bonanno family, "Honor Thy Father," noted that the Mafia, with annual earnings that exceeded those of nine Top 10 Fortune 500 companies combined, was the biggest business in America at the time.

But if the movie made mobsters look like pious family men with fedoras and .45s, the Neopolitan Noodle killings exposed the vicious reality. The day after the mayhem, New York Daily News columnist Jimmy Breslin condemned "The Godfather," which until then had been almost universally praised, as "hard-core pornography." And an angry New York Mayor John Lindsay demanded that "the romanticization of the mob must be stopped and the gangsters run out of town."

It took 20 years to accomplish the latter — mob godfather John Gotti's conviction and life sentence in 1992 more or less marked the end of the era when the New York Mafia reigned as an all-powerful and seemingly invincible force in New York's economic, political and cultural life.

As for Lindsay's hope that the public's romantic fascination with an enormous and highly organized outlaw gang of thieves would diminish, the mob's grip on the public imagination is arguably stronger today than it was 40 years ago when "The Godfather" was released.

To celebrate the 40th anniversary of the film's opening, Paramount Pictures held special screenings of the original, with prints restored by the film's director, Francis Ford Coppola, in theaters across the country in March. And the movie, along with"The Godfather: Part II" and "The Godfather: Part III," was the centerpiece of AMC's widely promoted "Mob Week," a recent festival featuring 19 of Hollywood's best-known mob-themed gangster films, each introduced by cable star Anthony Bourdain.



The shooting at the Neopolitan Noodle, by contrast, is hardly embedded in the public mind. The 40th anniversary on Saturday of the dimly remembered killings will pass with little fanfare or commemoration. And the names of the real-life innocent bystanders felled by a mob gunman — Sheldon Epstein, 40, of New Rochelle and Max Tekelch, 48, of Woodmere — will probably remain as they have been all these years, largely forgotten.

Steve Dougherty is a journalist who lives in New York and Los Angeles. He is the coauthor, with ex-mobster Sal Polisi, of Polisi's memoir, "The Sinatra Club: My Life Inside the New York Mafia.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/10/opinion/la-oe-dougherty-mafia-murders-20120810

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A lawyer by the name of Joe D'Aquino was whacked in the early 80s by associates of a Buffalo crew for nothing more than working late and being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and a yonng lady named Carla Faliciano was murdered becuse a friend of hers who was murdered previously had told her the details of a check cashing scam she was involved with with a Colombo made guy and three associates...Both happend in Utica NY....just two examples I am personally familer with

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Re: Civilian killed by mob in 1969 [Re: Timbowman] #835951
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Looking for info n murder of Frank Sagumeri in Canarsie in 1969. May have crossed paths with Peter castellana. He was a civilian who may have gotten mixed up.

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I even tried google, nothing comes up. any suggestions on how to find the news article?

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Who ran Canarsie in the 60's and 70's ?

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Originally Posted By: Timbowman
Who ran Canarsie in the 60's and 70's ?
I am not sure but I know that Paul Vario ran his crew from Canarsie during that time I think.

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I think there were a few civilian caught in the crossfire during the colombo wars including a teenager and a nun at one point or another.

Tanglewood boys stabbed some kid outside a nightclub.

Robert kubecka and donald bartsow killings by the luchesses.

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Originally Posted By: Timbowman
Looking for info n murder of Frank Sagumeri in Canarsie in 1969. May have crossed paths with Peter castellana. He was a civilian who may have gotten mixed up.


if you type in his name and caranasie you get a grave finder site that says he died in 1969 but nothing about the circumstances.

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Thanks. That what I get also. I hear somehow he got mixed up with Pete castellana. Not sure who was actually involved with his death.

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Heard possibly tommy and Anthony stabile ?


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