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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767646
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: TheArm] #767658
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Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: cheech
the fact that this thread is 7 pages is amazing


Are you kidding?
If we were to get into the details and nitty gritty, it could be three times this size
Like the guy who operates out of a chain hotel in Rosemont and has an "in" in which both the outfit and the autorities give him a pass, the guy in Country Club hills who has been paying juice to the outfit for 20 years, sometimes cash, sometimes sex. How Elmwood park takes advantage of a government houseing program for use in the Russian human trafficiking trade, to escort services that have staff imported from Asia and Easten Europe as well as from the US, and the complex system in which they locate and relocate to stay 2 steps ahead of the feds (Its a federal issue becuse it is interstate and international)
The Sex trade and Real estate is the Outfits bread and butter rackets these day




This goes on all over. U think its exclusive to Chicago?


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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767660
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The Chicago mob controls the locals and joint councils of the teamsters union in Chicago, why do you think Obama went to the doj and tried to have federal oversight of the teamsters ended. Now to me this wouldn't look so bad of the main teamster guy in Chicago pushing this are Coli and his right hand glimco jr
Anybody that's followed the mob knows those names
To head joint council 25 of the teqmsters in Chicago you must be with the Chicago mob
I mean its like Joey Lombardo jr or frank Caruso pushing for federal oversight of the teqmsters to end , it's fucking ridiculous

They also control the 36th ward in Chicago, banks and dileo are there and it was a smooth transisition from the 1st ward with Marcy and Roti.


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767661
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Pretty disgusting really

Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767662
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Ok thanks for the link Funkster.

Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: FriedRavioliFarts] #767666
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Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts


Ok thanks for the link Funkster.


Mandell's dad was killed a decade after the retaliation for the Accardo robery.

Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767668
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The Outfit is the most powerful in all lcn, if you consider the fact they are so low key and smart they don't get sent to the joint like all the other ny idiots.

As the Arm said, they are heavily involved in the profitable trafficing stuff.

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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767669
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I don't doubt it.

And I admire the fact that they have never busted for it...

Not even once!

Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: ItalianForever] #767678
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Ivyleague is in Tom Arnold mode 98% of the time. Using his name & the word 'rational' in the same sentence is an oxymoron. He means well but he's just not very bright. Or not very observant, would perhaps be a more appropriate way of putting it. Doesn't understand what it means to read between the lines & won't accept that his superiors might possibly be lying to him. Bless his Mormon heart.


How convenient. Whenever the feds say something you don't agree with or want to be true, just accuse them of lying. Don't get the Tom Arnold comparison but whatever.

Piece of advice, don't hitch your wagon to TheArm's star. The guy is nuts. And I'm not just talking about the claims about his past. Not only does he say there's still a Rockford family in 2014, hell, they're ready to open the books! Despite the FBI saying the Chicago Heights crew is defunct, Arm says otherwise. And never mind there being no cases to support the conclusion, we should just assume the Outfit is heavy into sex trafficking and prostitution in Chicago. Yeah, let's just go with the FBI being a bunch of liars 'cause Arm says so. whistle Hell, even ChiTown thinks he full of it.

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

@Ivy: Its irrational to have a rational conversation with, by nature, irrational people.
Stop beating your head against the wall.


True enough.

Originally Posted By: TheArm
t pimps here, som I guess I stand corrected on the "entire sex trade industry"...I guess I meant all of it that matters
The Chinese madams you are talking about are actually mostly Korean, and in Chicagoland they are either human trafficed themselves, or very much under the thumb of the russians and by extention, the outfit in general, and Elmwood park inn particular. You would be amazed at the revenue those store from "spa" brothals generate.


Strip clubs and porn shops is one thing. But the lack of human trafficking or prostitution cases related to the Outfit is pretty telling.

Originally Posted By: Louiebynochi
The Chicago mob controls the locals and joint councils of the teamsters union in Chicago, why do you think Obama went to the doj and tried to have federal oversight of the teamsters ended. Now to me this wouldn't look so bad of the main teamster guy in Chicago pushing this are Coli and his right hand glimco jr
Anybody that's followed the mob knows those names
To head joint council 25 of the teqmsters in Chicago you must be with the Chicago mob
I mean its like Joey Lombardo jr or frank Caruso pushing for federal oversight of the teqmsters to end , it's fucking ridiculous

They also control the 36th ward in Chicago, banks and dileo are there and it was a smooth transisition from the 1st ward with Marcy and Roti.


Teamster cases involving the Outfit in recent years have been few and far between. Maybe the Outfit controls the Justice Department and Chicago FBI too?

Originally Posted By: ItalianForever
The Outfit is the most powerful in all lcn, if you consider the fact they are so low key and smart they don't get sent to the joint like all the other ny idiots.


By that logic, the Dallas family must be a powerhouse. They haven't had anyone go to prison in decades.

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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767687
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im done posting in chicago threads...its like looney toons


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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767694
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I pretty much stopped long ago. It looked like IVEY was going to stay away from this thread but he just couldn't help himself. He had to jump back in there. I thought he was going to listen to PIZZA about feeding the trolls but he just can't. He needs the last word...ON EVERYTHING...a trait he should work on instead of contantly bickering with every poster, new or old.

Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767699
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"Strip clubs and porn shops is one thing. But the lack of human trafficking or prostitution cases related to the Outfit is pretty telling"

Ummm....the Mandel case WAS about human trafficking or prostitution...Murder conspericy is just more sereous and easier to prove
Again..ASK yourself why the FEDS bumped the ISP and CPD if it was a "simple murder case"

Oh, and Ivy League..As for me being "nuts", I have shreaded, debunked and pulverized your half baked, naive, wikipedia FBI nut hugging ignorance...I have cited case law and scores of examples of FBI systemic misinformation...you have cited ...duhhhhhh

As this thread shows, your credibility is ZERO


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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: cheech] #767700
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Originally Posted By: cheech
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Originally Posted By: cheech
the fact that this thread is 7 pages is amazing


Are you kidding?
If we were to get into the details and nitty gritty, it could be three times this size
Like the guy who operates out of a chain hotel in Rosemont and has an "in" in which both the outfit and the autorities give him a pass, the guy in Country Club hills who has been paying juice to the outfit for 20 years, sometimes cash, sometimes sex. How Elmwood park takes advantage of a government houseing program for use in the Russian human trafficiking trade, to escort services that have staff imported from Asia and Easten Europe as well as from the US, and the complex system in which they locate and relocate to stay 2 steps ahead of the feds (Its a federal issue becuse it is interstate and international)
The Sex trade and Real estate is the Outfits bread and butter rackets these day




This goes on all over. U think its exclusive to Chicago?



No I don't think it's exclusive to Chicago, but Chicago is the subject of this thread.


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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: funkster] #767702
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@TheArm - Did you see the "Zips in Oregon, Il" thread? Would like your perspective - and welcome to the BB.

Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: FriedRavioliFarts] #767703
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Originally Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts



Arm - The spas along Lake St. in Elmhurst, Addison, Roselle - are all those plugged into the Outfit?


Absolutly, the Outfit and the Russians. Some of the "owners" themselves are even human traffic victims. There are local women but the majority are from out of state, eastern Europe or Asia

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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: Mark] #767706
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@TheArm - Did you see the "Zips in Oregon, Il" thread? Would like your perspective - and welcome to the BB.


I will check it out...thanks


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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: spmob] #767717
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Originally Posted By: spmob
I pretty much stopped long ago. It looked like IVEY was going to stay away from this thread but he just couldn't help himself. He had to jump back in there. I thought he was going to listen to PIZZA about feeding the trolls but he just can't. He needs the last word...ON EVERYTHING...a trait he should work on instead of contantly bickering with every poster, new or old.


He is what we used to call a "Buff"
He is facinated by LCN and fancies himself a cross between J Edger Hoover and Al Guart
He reads newspaper articals, web sites and FBI media releases and then transposes that nonsense as the gospal and personal first hand knowledge...becuse as everyone knows, newspapers are never wrong, and Federal law enforcement has never used misinformation as an investigative tool <sarcasm>


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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: cheech] #767722
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Originally Posted By: cheech
im done posting in chicago threads...its like looney toons


+1


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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #767725
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: cheech
im done posting in chicago threads...its like looney toons


+1



He posted to say he was done posting

-1


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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: spmob] #767731
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Originally Posted By: spmob
I pretty much stopped long ago. It looked like IVEY was going to stay away from this thread but he just couldn't help himself. He had to jump back in there. I thought he was going to listen to PIZZA about feeding the trolls but he just can't. He needs the last word...ON EVERYTHING...a trait he should work on instead of contantly bickering with every poster, new or old.


Ivyleague is a troll. Not the other way around.

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Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: cheech
im done posting in chicago threads...its like looney toons


+1



He posted to say he was done posting

-1


Heh welcome to gangsterbb: Where you've got clowns letting You know shit you never asked about.

"Hey guys just wanted to let you know. I won't be posting in this thread anymore". Who asked him??

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Frankly, if youre not directly involved, or you did not Come up amongst an LCN community, and you STILL concern yourself with & speculate about LCN matters, youre pathetic.

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Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: spmob
I pretty much stopped long ago. It looked like IVEY was going to stay away from this thread but he just couldn't help himself. He had to jump back in there. I thought he was going to listen to PIZZA about feeding the trolls but he just can't. He needs the last word...ON EVERYTHING...a trait he should work on instead of contantly bickering with every poster, new or old.


He is what we used to call a "Buff"
He is facinated by LCN and fancies himself a cross between J Edger Hoover and Al Guart
He reads newspaper articals, web sites and FBI media releases and then transposes that nonsense as the gospal and personal first hand knowledge...becuse as everyone knows, newspapers are never wrong, and Federal law enforcement has never used misinformation as an investigative tool <sarcasm>


Well, between the two, I'd rather be a "buff" than an internet fraud.

And for the record, spmob never cared about me having the "last word" until I called him out on his bullshit about claiming to know Joey Merlino was the real boss before it officially came out. But grudges die hard on these boards.

Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Ivyleague is a troll. Not the other way around.


You only say that because I throw inconvenient facts in your face you don't want to deal with.

Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Frankly, if youre not directly involved, or you did not Come up amongst an LCN community, and you STILL concern yourself with & speculate about LCN matters, youre pathetic.


My guess is that would include you and most other wannabe mob insiders. But that's why I don't speculate to begin with, but rather just go with the verifiable facts.

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: cheech
im done posting in chicago threads...its like looney toons


+1



I won't write off all Chicago threads (though most do tend to degenerate into petty bickering thanks to the Outfit fans) but I am done with this thread unless it has something directly to do with the original topic. I will try to follow some people's advice and quit feeding the trolls.

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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #767739
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Frankly, if youre not directly involved, or you did not Come up amongst an LCN community, and you STILL concern yourself with & speculate about LCN matters, youre pathetic.


I think it's ok to be curious and interested. But when there are people who actually know what you are speculating about, and you defned you speculation, frankly it becomes a bit ridiculous.


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I've never seen you contribute a shred of concrete fact here. I've never seen you contribute anything interesting or anything of note that would make anyone go "hmm, that's interesting, please go on." People call for you to pipe down & go Away because you cut copy & paste articles from websites. It gets tiring reading things I could just Google & read myself.

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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
I won't write off all Chicago threads (though most do tend to degenerate into petty bickering thanks to the Outfit fans) but I am done with this thread unless it has something directly to do with the original topic. I will try to follow some people's advice and quit feeding the trolls.


Best thing you could do. FWIW- I agree that most of the Chicagoland threads are bullshit and divisive and childish.


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Originally Posted By: TheArm
[quote=spmob]I pretty much stopped long ago. It looked like IVEY was going to stay away from this thread but he just couldn't help himself. He had to jump back in there. I thought he was going to listen to PIZZA about feeding the trolls but he just can't. He needs the last word...ON EVERYTHING...a trait he should work on instead of contantly bickering with every poster, new or old.


He is what we used to call a "Buff"
He is facinated by LCN and fancies himself a cross between J Edger Hoover and Al Guart
He reads newspaper articals, web sites and FBI media releases and then transposes that nonsense as the gospal and personal first hand knowledge...becuse as everyone knows, newspapers are never wrong, and Federal law enforcement has never used misinformation as an investigative tool <sarcasm>


"Well, between the two, I'd rather be a "buff" than an internet fraud"

You dont get it... You are both a Buff AND an internet fraud.
The fact that you have been shreaded on virtuaklly every point in this thread and others, makes that pretty clear

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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #767743
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
I've never seen you contribute a shred of concrete fact here. I've never seen you contribute anything interesting or anything of note that would make anyone go "hmm, that's interesting, please go on." People call for you to pipe down & go Away because you cut copy & paste articles from websites. It gets tiring reading things I could just Google & read myself.


Of course not. You're not interested in the verifiable facts. Never have been. What you're here to do is swap bullshit stories and anecdotes with fellow frauds like yourself. You have zero interest in reality because you wish reality was something else.


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Originally Posted By: TheArm
You dont get it... You are both a Buff AND an internet fraud.
The fact that you have been shreaded on virtuaklly every point in this thread and others, makes that pretty clear


You simply making stuff up out of thin air doesn't "shred" me. No matter how many times you claim it does. I've shown that the FBI disagrees with your claims on any number of things. All you have is "The FBI lies." Blah, blah, blah.


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Curious & interested is one thing. Being from Bumblefuck, Scotland/Montana & being obsessed with LCN is pathetic.

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