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Gangsters: America's Most Evil #753387
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this show is a fuckin embarrassment they have so called "gangsters" that noone has heard of and no Italian guys.Seriously the guy thats in charge of finding these stories should be banned from producing.They have guys who literally the only people have heard of them are people who grew up in that hood and if you go a few blocks over they dont know who these guys are.

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I thought it was interesting to watch about less known gangsters. If they had made another John Gotti episode, I would have gone crazy.


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Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: Dwalin2011] #753418
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how many shows on Italians do you want? Theres mobsters, mafias greatest hits, inside the american mob, all of them telling the same story. At least on this show its something different and wont be pointlessly regurgitated again. Also ive only watched a few episodes and I don't think many of the informants are gonna come out and write books and show their faces so its not like theres some marketable thing with drug trafficking informants.

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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
how many shows on Italians do you want? Theres mobsters, mafias greatest hits, inside the american mob, all of them telling the same story. At least on this show its something different and wont be pointlessly regurgitated again. Also ive only watched a few episodes and I don't think many of the informants are gonna come out and write books and show their faces so its not like theres some marketable thing with drug trafficking informants.


Fair enough BUT if they want to do black gangsters how about doing the real gangsters like Nicky Barnes,Big meech frank Matthews or even supreme mcgriff and fat cat nichols.They doing an episode on the cutt boys wtf and black women who everyone knows it was there husbands who were the real drug dealers but they want to make it that these women were gangsters.What about the episode on Lisette Lee is she considered a gangster.

I understand that this show is doing recent gangsters why not do a show on Chris paciello even though hes a piece of shit he was more of a gangster than 99% of the people who they have shown.So they pick to do a show on local neighbourhood black guys and women but they dont try do a show on the mexican mafia who is the most powerful group in cali and those 100 guys control thousands of gang members in southern california.

And yes if they did an episode on john gotti i would of killed myself but since they love drug dealers so much why not do a carmine galante episode or vinny gorgeous

Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: tiger84] #753498
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Probably because everyone has heard those stories
You mentioned a thousand times.

Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: tiger84] #753500
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Extortion , if u have a problem with wipeout people r posting then don't fuckin comment , your attitude and arrogance bores me to death

Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: tiger84] #753506
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Originally Posted By: tiger84
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how many shows on Italians do you want? Theres mobsters, mafias greatest hits, inside the american mob, all of them telling the same story. At least on this show its something different and wont be pointlessly regurgitated again. Also ive only watched a few episodes and I don't think many of the informants are gonna come out and write books and show their faces so its not like theres some marketable thing with drug trafficking informants.


Fair enough BUT if they want to do black gangsters how about doing the real gangsters like Nicky Barnes,Big meech frank Matthews or even supreme mcgriff and fat cat nichols.They doing an episode on the cutt boys wtf and black women who everyone knows it was there husbands who were the real drug dealers but they want to make it that these women were gangsters.What about the episode on Lisette Lee is she considered a gangster.

I understand that this show is doing recent gangsters why not do a show on Chris paciello even though hes a piece of shit he was more of a gangster than 99% of the people who they have shown.So they pick to do a show on local neighbourhood black guys and women but they dont try do a show on the mexican mafia who is the most powerful group in cali and those 100 guys control thousands of gang members in southern california.

And yes if they did an episode on john gotti i would of killed myself but since they love drug dealers so much why not do a carmine galante episode or vinny gorgeous


Theres a few episodes that are a bit pointless but looking at the episode lists they have mostly big names on their johnny eng, quasand lewis, griselda blanco, carlos ledher, and some top gang leaders and other drug traffickers that were notoriously violent. I don't know why you would want vinny gorgeous in their if you have got a problem with the cut boys being featured, i think they both were charged with the same amount of murders and i don't think that vinny gorgeous career really merits a documentary, the only thing significant about him was that he was ratted out by joe massino.

Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: tiger84] #753511
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Originally Posted By: tiger84

Fair enough BUT if they want to do black gangsters how about doing the real gangsters like Nicky Barnes,Big meech frank Matthews or even supreme mcgriff and fat cat nichols.

There is a 3-season series called "American gangster" which already has episodes on Nicky Barnes, McGriff and Fat Cat. As for Big Meech, there are several documentaries about him too.

But I agree Lisette Lee shouldn't ge considered a "most evil gangster", like they say in the title. She just had a crew of 6 people who never killed anyone and just sold marijuana which isn't really a deadly drug, unlike heroin for example.

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Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: Dwalin2011] #764222
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They have finally uploaded more episodes onto youtube.

anthony shea

johnny eng

alpo martinez

luis felipe latin kings

Luis Felipe comes off as a very scary cult leader like figure. Some of the shit he wrote was just plain creepy.

Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: tiger84] #764231
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Ive seen all of the episodes and while I agree some of the characters portrayed are relitively small time, others are big time. I mean Carlos Lehder was one of the largest figures in drug trafficing history and a very interesting story. Btw, does anyone know the current status of Lehder??

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i bet dana bostic would beat the shit outta chris paciello (whoever the fuck he is)

big meech is a clown

his crew should've killed him but they were just as goofy

he made a dvd saying that he was a gang leader (dumb as it gets)

bmf transported drugs in lambo's and ferarri's (goofy shit)

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your alittle special arent you??

Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: cookcounty] #764245
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
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i bet dana bostic would beat the shit outta chris paciello (whoever the fuck he is)

big meech is a clown

his crew should've killed him but they were just as goofy

he made a dvd saying that he was a gang leader (dumb as it gets)

bmf transported drugs in lambo's and ferarri's (goofy shit)


Who gives a fuck whos tougher Paciello has a more interesting story.A guy who would do robberies then used that seed money to become the king of the night life in Miami and hang with Madonna and jlo while jlo was at her peak in the late 90s.And sofia verenga then he becomes a rat and gets out and owns nightclubs again

Big meech was smarter than anyone I tell you why......He knew that in the drug world theres no happy ending of retiring on an island with all your money eventually he knew he was going to spend over 30years to life so he might aswell enjoy himself and he did.These cutt boys were drug addicts who would kill there childhood friends

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u were just talking about how "not gangster" most of the episodes are

so u obviously care who's tougher

mafia members kill their childhood friends all the time so don't be a hypocrit

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Being tough has nothing to do with being a gangster if that was the case then all professional fighters would be the biggest gangsters.Carlo gambino would get the shit kicked out of him by a blind 10 year old or meyer lansky.It takes other things to be a good gangster.The point about this show is there doing stories about nobodies and trying to hype them up.

Re: Gangsters: America's Most Evil [Re: tiger84] #764523
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Originally Posted By: tiger84
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i bet dana bostic would beat the shit outta chris paciello (whoever the fuck he is)

big meech is a clown

his crew should've killed him but they were just as goofy

he made a dvd saying that he was a gang leader (dumb as it gets)

bmf transported drugs in lambo's and ferarri's (goofy shit)


Who gives a fuck whos tougher Paciello has a more interesting story.A guy who would do robberies then used that seed money to become the king of the night life in Miami and hang with Madonna and jlo while jlo was at her peak in the late 90s.And sofia verenga then he becomes a rat and gets out and owns nightclubs again

Big meech was smarter than anyone I tell you why......He knew that in the drug world theres no happy ending of retiring on an island with all your money eventually he knew he was going to spend over 30years to life so he might aswell enjoy himself and he did.These cutt boys were drug addicts who would kill there childhood friends


No disrespect pal but you need to pay attention. They did make shows about all them guys you names but I guess your television set doesn't get that the way we all do .
You also mentioned Paciello. Very interesting story behind him but crew that he was with from tine to time, the Bath Ave crew was so close the 7 boys had tattooes on themselves. They each got a number from 1-7. To me sounds like they were real close but in the end they murdered one of their own on orders from Bonanno big wig Anthony Spero.

That is just one story of the many about friends killing friends. So do your homework before you make wrong statements. No disrespect though thanks for the input.


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Yeah and Judi shemtov who was an innocent mother who was shot in a robbery


Paul gulino who was pretty much the leader of the group got above his stations and demanded to be made and had the audacity to slap Anthony spero . His death warrant was signed the minute he raised his hands to the consigliere of the family

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Originally Posted By: PhillyMob


No disrespect pal but you need to pay attention. They did make shows about all them guys you names but I guess your television set doesn't get that the way we all do .
You also mentioned Paciello. Very interesting story behind him but crew that he was with from tine to time, the Bath Ave crew was so close the 7 boys had tattooes on themselves. They each got a number from 1-7. To me sounds like they were real close but in the end they murdered one of their own on orders from Bonanno big wig Anthony Spero.

That is just one story of the many about friends killing friends. So do your homework before you make wrong statements. No disrespect though thanks for the input.


Those guys pretty much were products of the crack era. There were like little groups of mob connected drug crews shooting eachother up all over Brooklyn. Tommy Pitera and his crew were all active during that time to and were moving drugs in Brooklyn too. Then you also had that froggy gallione who was running a crack cocaine ring in bensonhurst.

Like I said a number of the episodes are bullshit but most of them are justified most of them were big time drug traffickers or gang leaders with an extensive body count. I have never heard of the cut boyz before you brung them but from reading their indictments they were pretty big dealers and had a number of murders to their names but I probably wont go out my way to watch that episode, however I wouldn't watch one about chris paciello either, he wasn't exactly a serial killer.

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Originally Posted By: PhillyMob


No disrespect pal but you need to pay attention. They did make shows about all them guys you names but I guess your television set doesn't get that the way we all do .
You also mentioned Paciello. Very interesting story behind him but crew that he was with from tine to time, the Bath Ave crew was so close the 7 boys had tattooes on themselves. They each got a number from 1-7. To me sounds like they were real close but in the end they murdered one of their own on orders from Bonanno big wig Anthony Spero.

That is just one story of the many about friends killing friends. So do your homework before you make wrong statements. No disrespect though thanks for the input.


We are talking about Gangsters: America's Most Evil where are these episodes of the people i mentioned????????
Why did you mention the bath ave boys?Paciello jumped from crew to crew.I dont know what your trying to get at

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Originally Posted By: tiger84
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No disrespect pal but you need to pay attention. They did make shows about all them guys you names but I guess your television set doesn't get that the way we all do .
You also mentioned Paciello. Very interesting story behind him but crew that he was with from tine to time, the Bath Ave crew was so close the 7 boys had tattooes on themselves. They each got a number from 1-7. To me sounds like they were real close but in the end they murdered one of their own on orders from Bonanno big wig Anthony Spero.

That is just one story of the many about friends killing friends. So do your homework before you make wrong statements. No disrespect though thanks for the input.

We are talking about Gangsters: America's Most Evil where are these episodes of the people i mentioned????????
Why did you mention the bath ave boys?Paciello jumped from crew to crew.I dont know what your trying to get at


You mentioned Nicky Barnes, big meech and others. They might not be on Americas most evil but there on gangland and other shows.

I mentioned bath ave. because Paciello ran with them for a little and there was a lot of Italians killing there own family members let alone their own friends. To your statement about them killing people they grew up with.


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"Who gives a fuck whos tougher Paciello has a more interesting story.A guy who would do robberies then used that seed money to become the king of the night life in Miami and hang with Madonna and jlo while jlo was at her peak in the late 90s.And sofia verenga then he becomes a rat and gets out and owns nightclubs again"

Apparently his story has already been well documented.....


Maybe instead of Gangsters: America's Most Evil, they can have Gangsters: America's Most Rerun. They can take old gagnster documentaries, put a new label on it, and change the narrator. Kind of like how Spike TV ruined Unsolved Mysteries by "remaking" it with that fag Dennis Farina. (Who the fuck replaces Robert Stack?)

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Originally Posted By: StLguy
"Who gives a fuck whos tougher Paciello has a more interesting story.A guy who would do robberies then used that seed money to become the king of the night life in Miami and hang with Madonna and jlo while jlo was at her peak in the late 90s.And sofia verenga then he becomes a rat and gets out and owns nightclubs again"

Apparently his story has already been well documented.....


Maybe instead of Gangsters: America's Most Evil, they can have Gangsters: America's Most Rerun. They can take old gagnster documentaries, put a new label on it, and change the narrator. Kind of like how Spike TV ruined Unsolved Mysteries by "remaking" it with that fag Dennis Farina. (Who the fuck replaces Robert Stack?)


I agree it's the same stories about Griselda Blanco and all the other. They just change the name of the show.


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