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John Veasey's decision to cooperate #750749
11/30/13 12:57 AM
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What was the original reason why Stanfa wanted to kill Johm Veasey? What was the original reason why John Veasey decided to cooperate before they attempted to kill him?

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750759
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It was mainly due to his brother billy veasey , he was worried for his young brother and urged him to get out of the life , stanfa found out and ordered him to be killed , he was summoned to a meeting were frank martines and al pagano tried unsuccessfully tried to murder him . The rest is history , he testified against stanfa putting him away for life , his brother billy was murdered on the day john was due to testify to try and silence him . It didn't work and made him an even more determined to testify , I wouldn't like to be the killers of billy veasey , John is a maniac and I have no doubt he will not rest until he has avenged his brothers death

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750773
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So because he was reconsidering the life and/or was already cooperating?

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750776
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Originally Posted By: Extortion
So because he was reconsidering the life and/or was already cooperating?


They tried to kill him, that's reason enough.


Makes you think. Makes you think about the people in your life. And when I think, I think of Neil. If he were here now what would he say? He would say "John what's it about? What's life about... if you dont go through it as a man's man?". He'd say "Suck it up, take the fall do the time. That made you what you are. That makes you what you are. How long have we been around this thing of ours? This Cosa Nostra? 120 years. What's it about? It's about the rules, perimeters. You take the beating for a friend, you don't run, you don't lay down, you don't betray who you are. What you are.
Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750778
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Yes...but why?

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750784
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John Stanfa wanted John Veasey dead for a couple of reasons, really. After Veasey murdered Frank Baldino (an associate of Joey Merlino), Veasey allegedly began to attempt to extort money from other mobsters, because by this time Veasey had an inflated ego. Secondly, Veasey claimed in the 60 minute interview that Stanfa was going to give him a cash bonus for being inducted into La Cosa Nostra. Veasey went to confront Stanfa about it, Stanfa refused, and wanted John eliminated (it goes with the idea that you don't take money from the family, let alone the boss!). In other words, John got too big for his britches.

As for Billy Vaesey, the mob subculture is a small world, so maybe he got word that Stanfa was plotting to kill his brother (Billy was friends with Joey Merlino as a kid, so word probably gets around really fast).

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750786
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stanza created a golem.
he made him burning a piece of paper instead of a proper holy card, because he never really cared/wanted to make veasey part of his lcn, just a errand boy.
Veasey was a feared hit man. Once he did what he was supposed to he was a goner anyhow.

things didn't go as planned by stanza tho.

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750787
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I think I read somewhere Ralph Natale said he ordered the Billy Veasey hit, not Stanfa. Stanfa only tried to kill John.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750811
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Johnny Chang wanted to take out Veasey for him taking out changs brother ..

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Dwalin2011] #750830
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
I think I read somewhere Ralph Natale said he ordered the Billy Veasey hit, not Stanfa. Stanfa only tried to kill John.


Natale was "boss" after stanfa and it was during the end of Stanfas time as boss when this happened so that really doesnt make sense considering part of stanfas conviction was based on veasey

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750880
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Originally Posted By: Extortion
Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
I think I read somewhere Ralph Natale said he ordered the Billy Veasey hit, not Stanfa. Stanfa only tried to kill John.


Natale was "boss" after stanfa and it was during the end of Stanfas time as boss when this happened so that really doesnt make sense considering part of stanfas conviction was based on veasey


Ralph did give the ok for the hit. It came from the Merlino faction not the Stanfa faction.
http://articles.philly.com/2001-04-06/ne...ino-john-stanfa

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Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: jmack] #750884
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By the way, not sure if it is true or not, but their has been talk that Billy Veasey convinced his brother to flip and then may have let people know that John was cooperating. Not sure. I know the extended family. A lot of them live in South Jersey.

Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750890
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Veasey's younger brother Dante got popped for a robbery in 2009. He just got out 6 or 7 months ago after serving around 4 years at Southern State in NJ.

Him and another guy robbed a woman and threw her out of a van. He's lucky they didn't hit him with kidnapping charges.

http://www.nj.com/gloucester/index.ssf?/base/news-11/1234424418186790.xml&coll=8

Last edited by Giancarlo; 12/01/13 12:01 AM.
Re: John Veasey's decision to cooperate [Re: Extortion] #750895
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Ah, I see.


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