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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: jmack] #759110
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Yeah it's all speculation from all of us, just wishful thinking lol

All I know is that if I was George I would feel pretty good right about now. On a side note, if I was Bent finger Lou I may change my address in the very near future.

I bet he's sh***ing his pants, that would be how I'm feeling thinking of maybe spending another 15 locked up. Funny about F@%k Finger Lou, that idiots gonna get more time than all of them lol he better run and hide that lying exaggerating C@%T

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I think the tapes that they asked to hear this week were for gambling charges mostly. It's all speculation at this point

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what I think about Ligambi

Count 1—RICO conspiracy in violation of 18 U.S.C.
§ 1962(d);

hung

Count 43—Conspiracy to conduct an illegal gambling business
in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371;

hung

Count 44—Conducting an illegal electronic gambling device
business in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1955 and 2;

not guilty

Count 50—Obstruction of justice in violation of 18 U.S.C.
§ 1512(b)(2)(A);

not guilty

..................

Borgesi

Count 1—RICO conspiracy in violation of 18 U.S.C.
§ 1962(d);

not guilty


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Nice_Guy] #759113
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Originally Posted By: Nice_Guy
On a side note, if I was Bent finger Lou I may change my address in the very near future.

I bet he's sh***ing his pants, that would be how I'm feeling thinking of maybe spending another 15 locked up. Funny about F@%k Finger Lou, that idiots gonna get more time than all of them lol he better run and hide that lying exaggerating C@%T

Anybody know if Lou is still in Ventnor? If he is you know right about now he's packing up the van and getting out of Dodge. lol

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759114
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Article on Partilal verdict...no new info though.

Jurors reach partial verdict in mob trial


Jeremy Roebuck, Inquirer Staff Writer
January 17, 2014

Jurors in the racketeering retrial of reputed Philadelphia mob boss Joseph Ligambi and his nephew George Borgesi said Friday they had reached a partial verdict, but a federal judge urged them to keep deliberating.

In a note sent to the judge just before 10:30 a.m., the jurors said that they had found unanimity on two of the five counts against the mob figures, but there remained "a firm difference of opinion on the other three." They gave no indication on which counts they had made a decision.

"This was a long trial and there were some complex issues," U.S. District Judge Eduardo Robreno told the group before sending them back for further discussion. "Often with further discussions, jurors are able to work out there differences."

Friday's note came four days after the panel of 11 women and one man told the judge they had reached an impasse and were unable to come to a decision on any of the counts.

Witness describes collecting debts for the mob
Assistant U.S. Attorney Frank Labor said that the three days of deliberations since showed the group was making some headway in their logjam.

"They're making progress," he said in court. "Monday they thought they were done, and now we've had three days and they have a verdict on three counts."

Last year, a different jury deliberated for 21 days on the same charges before declaring they were hopelessly deadlocked. That inability to reach a verdict resulted in a mistrial and prompted the current retrial.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20140118_Jurors_reach_partial_verdict_in_mob_trial.html

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759115
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You can google rat fingers name and it gives you his work and cell #, I should start pranking him to scare em lollol

Cross your fingers for The Unc and Georgie boy, no more miscarriages of justice Ono these trumped up MOB charges, what a joke,

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759116
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Holy shit i didnt realize there were 11 women on the jury, no wonder they cant get anything done lol.


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Dellacroce] #759117
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Holy shit i didnt realize there were 11 women on the jury, no wonder they cant get anything done lol.

LOL! lol clap

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759118
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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo

Anybody know if Lou is still in Ventnor? If he is you know right about now he's packing up the van and getting out of Dodge. lol


according to the internet yes. He owns/live in a house in Ventnor NJ. But I thought he was in the WPP?


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759119
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I really have no idea Vito on Lou's current status but you would think the feds got that idiot out of harms way unless he refused to go.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759120
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Maybe Rat Finger Lou is also Dumb Finger Lou

Lol.


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759121
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If I get another "Resource is limited" I might break my IPAD lol
WTF does it keep saying that for?
Anyways are you at the courthouse @Jose? If so you should sneak in a camera and get a pic of the defendants.. Good Luck LOL

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759122
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During the first trial he was asked by an attorney of his nickname and he shows the jury is hand. " See guys my finger is bent" What a fucking dumbass lol


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759124
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Not there today NG...it's tough to gauge when there will be any developments so it's not easy. hate to say it but this one looks like it's gonna go for a while longer - I just get that feeling.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759125
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Defense would need to request early reading on the two counts by up to the judge at the end of the day. George A. Thinks we're getting to the poin where enough is enough - I tend to disagree but wouldn't surprise me if there is strong disagreement on the rest of the charges.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Vito_Scaletta] #759140
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I'm not one to predict outcomes that often, but I'll take my shot...

For Ligambi:

RICO conspiracy - hung
Conspiracy to conduct an illegal gambling business - hung
Conducting an illegal electronic gambling device business - not guilty
Obstruction of justice - not guilty

Hung on Borgesi's RICO conspiracy


The fact that the jury can't reach a decision on 3 of the counts makes me think they are skeptical of the all of the charges. That's why I think the unanimous verdicts are not guilty.


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Good call Ted

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Dellacroce] #759143
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
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The witness tampering charge that Ligambi is charged with,what's that from again.

That charge is bullshit, all he did was ask the photographer from stainos weeding not to give the feds a group photo of all "the boys", the photographer even admited that he didnt even feel threatened by ligambi, its not like ligambi sent guys after him with baseball bats or stuck a gun in the guys face.

The witness intimidation charge was probably thrown in there just to make sure Ligambi wasn't granted bail.


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759146
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I would think they beat the conspiracy charges also,I didn't realize one of Ligambi's charges was still tied to conspiracy,I would think that makes sense,that they beat those.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759148
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I think this is the Indictment of the Ligambi and Borgesi trial.....

http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/13d0779p.pdf

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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
I think this is the Indictment of the Ligambi and Borgesi trial.....

http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/13d0779p.pdf

It's just a memorandum filed by the prosecution.


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #759151
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Jesus.
Well the EVIDENCE is very thin here guys. Whether you believe it personally or not, it's a tough case to prove.

But I can hear Borgesi yelling out to his wife now, "Better get those martini glasses chilled, baby!"


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There's Frank the lawyer, good call buddy hopefully Borgesi and the Unc get to go home today....and drink there asses off this weekend

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if anything is going to happen today it better be soon because 4 o'clock is end if the day. Going off the articles and posts if I were the judge I would go ahead and meet with the jury see what the likelihood is for any one of them changing their votes - if the answer is zero percent why the hell would they keep it going other than to waste money and the chance of not a true outcome. My own 2 cents.

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This Judge don't care Mo, that's why everyone should say NOT GUILTY and everyone should go home....This is going way to long for only 5 counts and 2 defendants

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I wonder if they are released what actions, if any, are they going to take against Scoops Licata for running his mouth on the Stefanelli tapes, Anthony Borgesi being his usual jerk off self and pointing fingers as to why Joey is not on trial and Borgesi's wife and Mother for threatening jurors? Also are Joe and Georgie going to kiss and make up? And what about resolving who authorized the Nicodemo's shooting while they were in trial?

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when I read they came to a partial verdict I forgor it could also mean not guilty and hung on the others. I jumped rite to guilty.

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Roebuck just tweeted that they are breaking for the day ( juror not feeling well). Back on Tuesday.

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Wow back on Tuesday, what fuggin bullshizz, see all of you on Tuesday.....RObreno sucks dick for real fucking jaggoff

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Beanshooter] #759163
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
I wonder if they are released what actions, if any, are they going to take against Scoops Licata for running his mouth on the Stefanelli tapes, Anthony Borgesi being his usual jerk off self and pointing fingers as to why Joey is not on trial and Borgesi's wife and Mother for threatening jurors? Also are Joe and Georgie going to kiss and make up? And what about resolving who authorized the Nicodemo's shooting while they were in trial?

-For Licata, everyone gets caught on a wire. It happens. The only thing he said was Joe was the acting boss. All he was doing was making the proper introduction. They all got caught on the Stefanelli tapes.
-There wasn't really any intimidation going on. Some of the jurors just didn't like the look Alyson was giving them.
-Ligambi and Borgesi resolved their issues during the first trial according to GA. They've been locked up together for almost 3 years, and have been seen joking together in court, so they've had time to rebuild their troubled relationship.
-Sorting out the Nicodemo thing is priority #1.


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