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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758760
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Jose, You think you can post those updates made by Jeremy Roebuck for those of us that are not on twitter?

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SP you don't actually need to have an account jus computer access and search for his account. Full disclosure it's nothing you haven't read before, just another outlet but sometimes he posts quickly

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this is why the trial was postponed last week. smfh...

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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Vito_Scaletta] #758796
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Wow that's fucked up and funny, I don't know who the jokes on though, the guys or the govt lol

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758797
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Vito how do you upload that?


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: LaLouisiane] #758801
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
Vito how do you upload that?


take screenshot (I used Lightshot Chrome extension)
save screenshot to computer
switch to full reply screen and click file manager (its in red)
choose file and add it.
post


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758805
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Apparently in the morning session they asked to hear some recordings ..

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free the boys!


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758838
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no verdict after day 5

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Jose] #758842
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Originally Posted By: Jose
no verdict after day 5

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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Jose] #758843
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Originally Posted By: Jose
Apparently in the morning session they asked to hear some recordings ..

Could mean anything. Could mean nothing.


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758853
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WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15, 2014

Do Tapes Hold The Answer In Mob Trial?
By George Anastasia
For Bigtrial.net

It could be a tale of the tapes, and that might not be a good thing for the defense.

Jurors started their fifth day of deliberations in the racketeering conspiracy retrial of mob boss Joe Ligambi and his nephew George Borgesi by asking to hear replays of several tapes introduced by the prosecution during the eight-week trial.

And they ended the day by asking to hear a half dozen more.

The panel of 11 women and one man is due to resume deliberations at 9:30 tomorrow morning. Whether they have overcome the impasse cited in a jury note on Monday remains an open question. What does appear clear is that the panel is working.

Most of the tapes played today were used by the prosecution to support the conspiracy charge that is at the heart of the case.

But the panel also asked to rehear a now infamous tape picked up on a Pennsylvania State Police wiretap in the late 1990s in which Borgesi is heard boasting and cackling about how he beat up and knocked out mob associate Angelo Lutz.

While that tape has little, if anything, to do with the conspiracy charge Borgesi, 50. is fighting, it was used by the prosecution to show the jury what authorities allege is Borgesi's arrogant and violent nature. The tape was first played in the 2001 racketeering trial in which Borgesi, Lutz, Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino and four others were convicted.

It was reprised and played again in the first Ligambi trial last year. Four defendants were convicted in that case, one was acquitted and the jury hung on charges against Ligambi and Borgesi, setting up the retrial that began in November.

The other tapes the jury asked to hear today focused on the charges against Ligambi. The prosecution alleges that "Uncle Joe" oversaw an organized crime gambling and loansharking operations. Government expert witnesses testified that money is routinely "kicked up" to the boss in a crime family.

While there was little evidence linking Ligambi, 74, directly to any criminal activity, there were tapes in which his role was mentioned.

On one tape replayed for the jury today bookmaker Gary Battaglini, who was convicted in the first Ligambi trial, is heard telling a deadbeat gambling that the money he owes goes to "Uncle Joe." On the same tape, Battaglini says that Ligambi doesn't care about anything, "he just wants his money."

The defense could take some solace, however, in another tape in which Joseph "Scoops" Licata, the only defendant acquitted in the first trial, is heard praising Ligambi as a boss who never asks for anything. Earlier in the same tape, recorded at a North Jersey restaurant, Licata introduced Ligambi to several New York mobsters as "acting boss" of the Philadelphia mob.

In tapes played at the end of today's session, the jury heard Michael Orlando, who was wearing a wire and cooperating with the FBI, discussing his gambling debts with mobster Damion Canalichio and, on another tape, with mob underboss Joseph "Mousie" Massimino. Canalichio and Massimino were also convicted in the first trial.

The defense has portrayed Orlando as a drug addicted degenerate gambler and less than credible witness. The conversations played today centered on debts of about $9,000 that Orlando owed to various mob figures.

The defense contends Orlando used the FBI to pay off some of those debts and then hid behind the protection of the federal government to avoid paying the rest.

In a discussion with Canalichio, Orlando explained how he was having trouble coming up with the money he owed. Canalichio, in reply, said, "It's not my money," adding that it was Ligambi's.

"It's Uncle Joe"s?" Orlando asked nervously.

On another tape, however, Canalichio refers to "Stevie's money," an apparent reference to mob capo Steven Mazzone. The defense has argued repeatedly that many of the debts discussed on tapes played for the jury were money owed to Mazzone, not Ligambi.

The prosecution, however, says that as boss Ligambi had a piece of everyone's action.

That could be the question the anonymously selected jury was wrestling with as it headed home after its fifth day of deliberations.

Read more at http://www.bigtrial.net/2014/01/do-tapes-hold-answer-in-mob-trial.html#jEtfKaxx66J8pV7e.99


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758854
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one mobster says Uncle Joe doesn't care about anything and that "he just wants his money."

the other describes Uncle Joe "as a boss who never asks for anything"


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Vito_Scaletta] #758860
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These guys are so fucked, the laws are made for MOB guys so they can't win. I feel bad for there families, this case should have been tossed on Monday but no Crooked Robreno is making them find a verdict, and Fuck whoever has a problem with me taking a shot at the judge.
Why is it legal for them to play a tape of a beating that was 15yrs ago against someone who isn't even part of the trial, and they played it in 01 and 14?
This is a miscarriage of justice to the fullest.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758871
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I agree with you Nice_Guy 100%...but these guys are cooked...changing my view...both guilty...Uncle Joe will die in prison and Georgie will come in 2034 and no one will remember who he was


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758873
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Respectfully disagree guys - I think there are a few that don't agree with sending these guys away from the evidence presented and witnesses. I don't think extra tapes and recordings will change their mind. We'll see and I can't see Robreno taking this past Friday. Apparently the notes to the judge made it clear it was a final vote each time. Either you beeline the witnesses or you don't and I don't think they believe Aponivk and Lou. Really how can you?

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Originally Posted By: Jose
Respectfully disagree guys - I think there are a few that don't agree with sending these guys away from the evidence presented and witnesses. I don't think extra tapes and recordings will change their mind. We'll see and I can't see Robreno taking this past Friday. Apparently the notes to the judge made it clear it was a final vote each time. Either you beeline the witnesses or you don't and I don't think they believe Aponivk and Lou. Really how can you?


Trust me I wanna see these guys NOT GUILTY and I never woulda believed them 2 creep Rat liars, but I wonder if the people that said they couldn't decide we'll stick to there guns, from the way these articles are written it sounds like there Fucked, but your right gotta stay positive lol

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758878
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@Nice Guy.. just what so you mean you dont believe the 2 rats. Like what parts of the testimony sound unbelievable?


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758881
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In the article posted above, it says that the defense was trying to paint it as Stevie's money that was owed. How do you guys think that will play on the streets? Seems to me that they are throwing Mazzone under the bus. Does this piss him off or does he see it as do what you have to do to survive?

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Originally Posted By: padrone
In the article posted above, it says that the defense was trying to paint it as Stevie's money that was owed. How do you guys think that will play on the streets? Seems to me that they are throwing Mazzone under the bus. Does this piss him off or does he see it as do what you have to do to survive?


Good news is Stevie beat this case. More good news is, Jacobs could say Stevie killed Kennedy and it wouldn't matter. They're not going to put the entirely new case together with the same facts only for Mazzone's lawyer to go, "It's Uncle Joe's money!" And play the tape that says that all over again.

When you are found 'not guilty' in a court of law, it does not by any stretch of the imagination mean you were found 'innocent' (think about that for a second). The name of the game is to create a litttttle bit of doubt, just enough. I'm sure Stevie knows what they're doing is kosher.


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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #758887
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That last part with Uncle Joe looks so incriminating when they said it was his money,how do you get around that.Borgesi seems like he has a fighting chance but when they explained that RICO law they made it clear that you don't have to commit the crime but just benefit from it.

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I heard those tapes - not as incriminating as it read in print .. It could possibly be any other joe in south Philly / I don't think they said uncle joe .. Only joe .. I say again on the evidence they should be not guilty. No question about it in my opinion. will report back from the trial tomorrow bc I think tomorrow is judgement day.

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Non biased opinion but no way they should be guilty at all. The awful witnesses and testimony should clear them - cheers fellas

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: FrankMazola] #758897
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[quote=FrankMazola]@Nice Guy.. just what so you mean you dont believe the 2 rats. Like what parts of the testimony sound unbelievable?

There testimony was too the same, they rehearsed or was scripted by the FBI or them 2 morons,which is illegal.

Tell me that's impossible Frank

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I hear you Jose hopefully the jury won't base everything on that,but look at excert from big trial.net right above you,they do refer to him as ''Uncle Joe''

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Mazzones father in law Joe Malone could be called 'Uncle Joe' by Stevies kids. smile .. Hes not made but I know hes dirty


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Most importantly,

What happened to the cat?


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CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Most importantly,

What happened to the cat?


Word on the street is that Georgie's people were holding the cat in the event the juror voted for a conviction. wink

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Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
Originally Posted By: padrone
In the article posted above, it says that the defense was trying to paint it as Stevie's money that was owed. How do you guys think that will play on the streets? Seems to me that they are throwing Mazzone under the bus. Does this piss him off or does he see it as do what you have to do to survive?


Good news is Stevie beat this case. More good news is, Jacobs could say Stevie killed Kennedy and it wouldn't matter. They're not going to put the entirely new case together with the same facts only for Mazzone's lawyer to go, "It's Uncle Joe's money!" And play the tape that says that all over again.

When you are found 'not guilty' in a court of law, it does not by any stretch of the imagination mean you were found 'innocent' (think about that for a second). The name of the game is to create a litttttle bit of doubt, just enough. I'm sure Stevie knows what they're doing is kosher.


This was a really good post Frank.

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Okay.
Have they rehearsed testimony with the same prosecutors? Probably. Do Prosecutors always play by the rules? No. I personally feel that RICO is a Third Amendment violation.

But if you honestly believe in your heart of hearts that Bent Finger Lou wasn't giving Georgie's envelope's to his wife or that "It's Joe's money" Doesn't refer to acting boss Joe Ligambi, you're crazy.

If the Prosecutors were going to make up a case against these guys they would use larger sums of money than Georgie was getting. Don't you think they could do a better job of faking a mob case? I know I could.

Personally, I have some strong issues with this case. But at the same time, I know they're guilty as sin.


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