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The Commission today #747009
11/04/13 05:58 AM
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Anyone have any insight or info or educated speculation on what the state of the commission is these days? I've been talking to a couple friends about this and some doubt there even is an active commission now.

Re: The Commission today [Re: Thaddeus] #747011
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i don't think any of the five family bosses would go to a commission meeting

because they know one of the other bosses would have on a wire or a recording device

Re: The Commission today [Re: cookcounty] #747024
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
i don't think any of the five family bosses would go to a commission meeting

because they know one of the other bosses would have on a wire or a recording device



Lol unless a Chicago guy was there to make sure everyone was clean because there are no rats in Chicago!!!

Re: The Commission today [Re: cookcounty] #747025
11/04/13 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
i don't think any of the five family bosses would go to a commission meeting

because they know one of the other bosses would have on a wire or a recording device


How is that so? They wouldn't 'know' that at all. Only one boss of the five families has ever ratted, that obviously being Massino. So to say they would 'know' that another boss is taped up is silly. They may be wary of many things, and it may enter their thoughts, but I don't believe they would not go for that reason alone.

And on top of that, if there were to be a meeting of the top bosses today they would all be patted down and searched more vigorously that normal.

Re: The Commission today [Re: Thaddeus] #747026
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as long as there are interfamily disputes, those disputes will have to be settled. by who, how and why? who knows

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Re: The Commission today [Re: Thaddeus] #747040
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the last meeting of the Commission was in 2000. in other years after 2000 did not meet either because the commission was reduced to only 5 families, and after Massino became a rat, no family had a boss in charge.
If you reunite today, they would be for

Genovese Daniel "Danny the Lion" Leo
Gambino Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalù
Lucchese Steven Lorenzo Crea
Bonanno Thomas DiFiore acting boss for Michael Mancuso
Colombo a have no name

Re: The Commission today [Re: furio_from_naples] #747044
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
the last meeting of the Commission was in 2000. in other years after 2000 did not meet either because the commission was reduced to only 5 families, and after Massino became a rat, no family had a boss in charge.
If you reunite today, they would be for

Genovese Daniel "Danny the Lion" Leo
Gambino Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalù
Lucchese Steven Lorenzo Crea
Bonanno Thomas DiFiore acting boss for Michael Mancuso
Colombo a have no name

I would say andy "mush" russo for the colombos, im pretty sure hes out now?not that the bosses would ever risk being at the same meeting together, hell just them being in the same room together could be considered consipiracy.


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Re: The Commission today [Re: Jimmythepen] #747046
11/04/13 01:54 PM
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Although I agree that rats are not a big concern, the potential problems go further than dons, like Massino. Sammy the Bull, Gaspipe, and Sal Vitale were underbosses, who accompanied their bosses to commission meetings. At the time, it was Chin's rule that only bosses and underbosses could attend the commission meetings. And as far as I know, nobody was frisked.

Over the past decade or longer, it could have been really challenging to have commission meetings, which included the 5 families. The Colombo's Persico, the Lucchese's Amuso, the Genovese's Chin, the Gambino's John, John A, and Peter Gotti, and the Bonanno's Massino were, or are still, in jail. There might have been a time (probably around 2004), when the bosses of all 5 families were locked up at the same time.


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Re: The Commission today [Re: Thaddeus] #747048
11/04/13 02:00 PM
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Although this is not directly addressing the thread topic, here is Gaspipe's description of a commission meeting that took place shortly after Paul Castellano was clipped.

Vic Amuso and Gas had to hide under blankets in the back of a van, where they drove to a garage to meet up with Benny Eggs. From there, they traveled through a maze of basement tunnels until they reached the final destination, which seemed to be at least a block away from the original entry point. Sometimes, the tunnels would be filled with rats, water bugs and the stench of sewage. (Chin would later hold meetings with other dons at 3 AM as he believed agents didn't work the graveyard shift)

For this particular commission meeting (the Colombos and Bonannos weren't represented), the agenda included:

a) Finding Castellano's killers. Gotti claimed he was working hard on it, lol.
b) Whether the Bonannos would reclaim their seat. The bosses voted no, but Massino was recognized as the boss.
c) Who would be the acting boss of the Colombos. The commission voted Little Vic Orena.
d) A formal vote of the new Gambino boss.....Gotti was voted in during that meeting.


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Re: The Commission today [Re: Thaddeus] #747120
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2000? Is it me or does anyone doubt that they've met in the last 13 years? Just because the Feds didn't catch them on tape doesn't mean they haven't gotten together.


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Re: The Commission today [Re: LittleMan] #747146
11/05/13 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Although this is not directly addressing the thread topic, here is Gaspipe's description of a commission meeting that took place shortly after Paul Castellano was clipped.

Vic Amuso and Gas had to hide under blankets in the back of a van, where they drove to a garage to meet up with Benny Eggs. From there, they traveled through a maze of basement tunnels until they reached the final destination, which seemed to be at least a block away from the original entry point. Sometimes, the tunnels would be filled with rats, water bugs and the stench of sewage. (Chin would later hold meetings with other dons at 3 AM as he believed agents didn't work the graveyard shift)

For this particular commission meeting (the Colombos and Bonannos weren't represented), the agenda included:

a) Finding Castellano's killers. Gotti claimed he was working hard on it, lol.
b) Whether the Bonannos would reclaim their seat. The bosses voted no, but Massino was recognized as the boss.
c) Who would be the acting boss of the Colombos. The commission voted Little Vic Orena.
d) A formal vote of the new Gambino boss.....Gotti was voted in during that meeting.




I never heard this story and find it really interesting. So funny what Gotti said haha. Do you have a link to this so I can read anymore about the meeting? Thanks in advanced Little Man

Re: The Commission today [Re: FrankMazola] #747148
11/05/13 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
2000? Is it me or does anyone doubt that they've met in the last 13 years? Just because the Feds didn't catch them on tape doesn't mean they haven't gotten together.

If there had been a meeting since 2000, I think word of it would have leaked by now. Between rats, wire and people feeding info to reporters, I'd expect at least a rumor to surface (from a credible source) of such a meeting.


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Re: The Commission today [Re: Feech_La_Manna85] #747152
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Originally Posted By: Feech_La_Manna85

I never heard this story and find it really interesting. So funny what Gotti said haha. Do you have a link to this so I can read anymore about the meeting? Thanks in advanced Little Man


Feech, no link. That was taken directly from Philip Carlo's biography on Gaspipe.


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Re: The Commission today [Re: LittleMan] #747419
11/06/13 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Feech_La_Manna85

I never heard this story and find it really interesting. So funny what Gotti said haha. Do you have a link to this so I can read anymore about the meeting? Thanks in advanced Little Man


Feech, no link. That was taken directly from Philip Carlo's biography on Gaspipe.



Sorry for taking the subject out of topic but some times Carlo's stories are "little" suspicious.Dont get me wrong i like his work but thats my opinion


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Re: The Commission today [Re: Toodoped] #747430
11/06/13 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Toodoped

Sorry for taking the subject out of topic but some times Carlo's stories are "little" suspicious.Dont get me wrong i like his work but thats my opinion


I completely agree.

That's why I consider the Gaspipe and Kuklinski books to be autobiographies- not biographies. It seems as if Carlo takes anything his subjects says and prints the info as facts, without any checking at all.


You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
Re: The Commission today [Re: Thaddeus] #751213
12/02/13 11:32 PM
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There has not been a whisper of another Commission meeting since 2000 and even that did not have Amuso, Gigante, Gotti, and Persico who were all in prison at the time. It only had Messino of the Bonanno crime Family, with acting boss's from the other four families.

With the shape of how the Gambino, Genovese, and Lucchese crime families are in good shape and have intact administrations right now. There is a possibility that the commission might be formed again. But with how relativity most of the families have been peaceful, there might be no need for the committee of peace to be reform again.


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Re: The Commission today [Re: Thaddeus] #751229
12/03/13 03:25 AM
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According to massino's testimony , the commission is no more , but the bosses or acting bosses of the five families meet on odd occasions


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