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Re: Neil Dellacroce crew 1960s (made guys) [Re: HairyKnuckles] #747667
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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Info was seemingly so unreliable back then, they couldn't even agree on who the dons were. Some thought it was Galante, others thought Bonanno....when it was really Rastelli. Ditto with Castellano and Dellacroce.

And again with the boss of bosses stuff....the media was waiting for someone to "consolidate the five families", lol. Can I assume that shortly afterward, the media crowned Castellano the boss of bosses? I know he wasn't, but there was both a book and a movie by that name.

I thought by 78 it was pretty well known that Paul took over the family from Gambino but it sure seems that some guys still thought it was Dellacroce. The NYPD seems to be the ones that got it wrong.

The part on Galante if true is funny. That guy walked out of prison and basically declared himself the top guy. He dared the others to stop him...which they finally did in 79.

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
The part on Galante if true is funny. That guy walked out of prison and basically declared himself the top guy. He dared the others to stop him...which they finally did in 79.


Yea it's like when the bully struts around the school yard daring kids to pop him in the mouth, until he runs across that one little kid that is not afraid of anything and knocks his ass slam out.

Re: Neil Dellacroce crew 1960s (made guys) [Re: dixiemafia] #747743
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According to a poster overthere, Frankie Ruggiero was a member of Terry Zappi´s crew. So I have deleted him from the list in the original post. Also according to the same poster, Bisogno was murdered. He may have been, I don´t know.


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Re: Neil Dellacroce crew 1960s (made guys) [Re: HairyKnuckles] #747963
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do we know who was Dellacroce's sponsor into the family back then? and how old he was at the time?

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Re: Neil Dellacroce crew 1960s (made guys) [Re: southend] #747972
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I think it was Albert.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Neil Dellacroce crew 1960s (made guys) [Re: HairyKnuckles] #756593
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My dad was Joseph vincent Bisogno. He was murdered (shot numerous times and while he was in a car trunk). He was found 7 days later in very bad condition. The whole thing was brushed under the rug, he could not be identified except for his wallet and jewelry. I never believed it was him, he had just been sentenced to 15 years for tax evasion and suddenly showed up dead. It was never researched and when I tried to was stopped dead in my tracks for one reason or another. I have many crazy stories about my dad.

Re: Neil Dellacroce crew 1960s (made guys) [Re: macros48] #756622
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Originally Posted By: macros48
My dad was Joseph vincent Bisogno. He was murdered (shot numerous times and while he was in a car trunk). He was found 7 days later in very bad condition. The whole thing was brushed under the rug, he could not be identified except for his wallet and jewelry. I never believed it was him, he had just been sentenced to 15 years for tax evasion and suddenly showed up dead. It was never researched and when I tried to was stopped dead in my tracks for one reason or another. I have many crazy stories about my dad.


If this is true then im sorry for your loss. I would like to hear more about your experience if you dont mind telling

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Thank You for the reply, I am not a good story teller, nor a good writer. I would hate to put a bunch of info out there only to find it in a book somewhere. My family has been involved with the Mafia all my earlier life it seems. My uncle John Daniello is in the "Governments secret file on organized crime" along with my dad. Also Frank Gagliardi dated my mom for 5 years and lived in my home for the same amount of time. He is not in that book but pictures can be found of him on ebay with my mom and brother in them.

Re: Neil Dellacroce crew 1960s (made guys) [Re: HairyKnuckles] #797001
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That was a real good post..wish you had some more info on anthony rizzo...

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Originally Posted By: alexandarns
That was a real good post..wish you had some more info on anthony rizzo...


In 1964, two years after Rizzo´s death, an informant advised the FBI that Rizzo had been a captain in the Gambino Family and had sponsored his son John into the Family. Rizzo had a very close association with Tommy Rava, possibly he was the one who sponsored Rava into the Family. Rizzo was born on May 16, 1887 in Palermo, Sicily and entered the US in 1906. He died on August 20, 1962 and was succeeded as a captain by Petey "Pumps" Ferrara. His last residence was at 1348 77th Street in Brooklyn (Dyker Heights). He worked as a jeweler and had his own store on Canal Street on Manhattan. He was arrested in 1937 in connection with a still operation. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 2 years in federal prison.

Alex, where are you from?


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That's a lot of info.Thank you very much.I am from Novi Sad,Serbia..know anybody here? smile

Re: Neil Dellacroce crew 1960s (made guys) [Re: alexandarns] #797202
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another dellacroce guy from the 60s. Michael "Rizzi" Rizatello.
Was with neils crew through late 50s-early 60s. was allegedly a shooter in the deaths of two profaci soldiers, John Guariglia and Paul Ricci at the Hi Fi Lounge (Hi Way bar??)in Brooklyn on Nov 11 1961. Involved in this shooting were also Salvatore Mangiameli and tommy Riccardi. He was wounded and left shortly after for LA.
Rizzatello later left for LA and became a made member of that family in 1976.
Don't know if perhaps dellacroce was offering more than just verbal support to the profaci/gallo thing, resulting in the Luna restraunt incident later..maybe?

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Thanks DiMaggio. But listed in OP are only the made guys.

I´m now confused about Edward Consalvo. I´ve seen a document, dated in the early 1960s, stating that he was a Dellacroce soldier. But pretty recently, I saw a document, dated in mid 1970s, stating Consalvo was a Genovese member under Pete DeFeo. So his place on the list in OP is debatable I guess.


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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
The part on Galante if true is funny. That guy walked out of prison and basically declared himself the top guy. He dared the others to stop him...which they finally did in 79.


Yea it's like when the bully struts around the school yard daring kids to pop him in the mouth, until he runs across that one little kid that is not afraid of anything and knocks his ass slam out.


Nice analogy Dixie - very true lol.

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I know this is off topic but when these guys went to clip a guy and they got injured themselves in the process possibly shot - where did they go to get patched up? You wouldn't go to the hospital cause then you could be implicated in the shooting. Did they have doctors on call at their own homes?

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Originally Posted By: PetroPirelli
I know this is off topic but when these guys went to clip a guy and they got injured themselves in the process possibly shot - where did they go to get patched up? You wouldn't go to the hospital cause then you could be implicated in the shooting. Did they have doctors on call at their own homes?


Yeah, the Mafia certainly had their own doctors they used when it was convenient for them. The also had doctors within their ranks as made guys. Off the top of my head, the Bonannos had Mario Tagliagambe (now dead, so don´t confuse him with another doctor with the same name) and the Genoveses (or the DeCavalcantes) had Philip Noto.


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"Like Carmine Fatico, Ruggiano was given a crew to run probably in the early 1970s"

It looks like I was wrong about Ruggiano. He never was an official captain but may have been acting for Fatico in the 1970s. He is often mentioned as an official skipper, particularly in the 1980s, but him being a captain actually doesn´t seems to be the case.

So, Dellacroce´s crew was split only two ways (between Caiazza and Fatico) and not as I previously said in the OP between Caiazza, Fatico and Ruggiano. Sorry about that.


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Eduardo Aronica.. another member of Dellacroce crew.

Also Tony Plate.

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Remember that story about Dellacroce being a rat, the story went something like..a police officer walked into his social club and said listen you're going to work for me, Dellacroce said okay and was then a paid informant :Lol: Some retards on here actually believed it.

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Originally Posted By: DiMaggio
Eduardo Aronica.. another member of Dellacroce crew.

Also Tony Plate.

.originally i thought tony plate was in neils crew but it turns out he was in the napolitano crew. I think hairyknuckles confirmed this and he is pretty accuate

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Is Plate his real name? Does anybody know anything about him?

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Originally Posted By: Dbm7
Is Plate his real name? Does anybody know anything about him?
Am i wrong in saying plate was killed down in fla.,,on gotti's orders..or am i repeating what everybody knows?


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Originally Posted By: hoodlum
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Is Plate his real name? Does anybody know anything about him?
Am i wrong in saying plate was killed down in fla.,,on gotti's orders..or am i repeating what everybody knows?
I'm sorry ,i just got home from a 14 hr. shift..my heads up my ass,..i work very hard 4 my meager $$..


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Plate was killed on the orders of Neil dellacroce , plate was on trial with dellacroce and he thought he stood a better chance of beating the trial if he wasn't sat next to the intimidating looking plate , this is one murder that John gotti might have actually been a shooter in

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Originally Posted By: Dbm7
Is Plate his real name? Does anybody know anything about him?

His real name was Anthony "Tony Plate" Plata I think. He was born in 1913 and was a longtime enforcer/solider in the Gambino crew. In the 60's and 70's he operated mostly out in Miami as a loanshark. He was basically a psycho and he was known as "The PitBull". In the late 60's he got in a altercation with a debtor and he threatened to bit chunks out of his face. There are some really interesting stories about how he set up shop in the Diplomat Hotel. In 1974 he murdered Charles "Charlie Bear" Calise after dispute from loansharking and because they thought he was an informer. Neil dellacroce supposedly ordered the hit. In May 1979 Neil and Plate were indicted for the murder. In August 1979 Plate disappeared. Willie Boy Johnson was supposedly the one who killed Plate along with assiatance from Ruggiero and maybe Gotti.

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So he must have been a part of that family when it was run by mangano then? He's on the valachi chart

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There was a Diplomat Mall and a Hotel. I grew up in that area in the 1970's. There were wiseguys everywhere. You could throw a rock in the air and hit one there where so many.

Terry Zappi owned all the Bobby Rubinos rib joints. There used to be over a dozen locations , I think there might only be one maybe two left. Its a shame they had great food.

Sal

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Originally Posted By: salvi62
There was a Diplomat Mall and a Hotel. I grew up in that area in the 1970's. There were wiseguys everywhere. You could throw a rock in the air and hit one there where so many.

Terry Zappi owned all the Bobby Rubinos rib joints. There used to be over a dozen locations , I think there might only be one maybe two left. Its a shame they had great food.

Sal

exactly salvi. I wish i could find the link of the article that details the diplomat and how tony plate intimidated many workers there. I will try and search for it

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