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Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia #743532
10/08/13 05:42 PM
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Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia died in Septemeber 2013

Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Persini93] #743632
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Thanks - did not know this. No surprise the papers did not mention his illustrious past.


Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: TonyG] #743662
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Originally Posted By: TonyG
Thanks - did not know this. No surprise the papers did not mention his illustrious past.


TonyG, do you know who is still active in St. Louis. Is Nino Parrino really the boss? Some accurate info on this Family would be good to hear. Thanks, J


"Three can keep a secret..if two are dead."
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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: SilentPartnerz] #743679
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Originally Posted By: SilentPartnerz
Originally Posted By: TonyG
Thanks - did not know this. No surprise the papers did not mention his illustrious past.


TonyG, do you know who is still active in St. Louis. Is Nino Parrino really the boss? Some accurate info on this Family would be good to hear. Thanks, J

I doubt theres anything left to be boss of, i dont think theres even 5 made guys left alive. The last activity reported about st louis was a guy(forget his name) running a card game on union time, that was a few years back.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Dellacroce] #743697
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
I doubt theres anything left to be boss of, i dont think theres even 5 made guys left alive. The last activity reported about st louis was a guy(forget his name) running a card game on union time, that was a few years back.


That was Mike Trupiano and it was in the early 1990's. There's no viable LCN family left in St. Louis and there hasn't been for some time.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Persini93] #743710
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It's over in St.Louis.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: F_white] #743822
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No more young to fulfill the ranks. Done zip nada

Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Persini93] #743827
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ThePartnership, has pieces and interests in Strip Clubs in East St. Louis (Sauget, Brooklyn, etc) and they run some bookies/ sharks in South St. Louis. I could name a few of the bars they mentioned where these guys operate. Most of them are former Teamster guys, most of the names were Italian, some names that could be familiar to people on the boards. I can't vouch for the info, just the source. Which not-for-nothin, is pretty credible.

Edited for subject/verb agreement.

Last edited by FrankMazola; 11/07/13 05:02 PM.

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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: FrankMazola] #743940
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Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
Some friends of mine (these people share a name and bloodline with a last name in Detroit) said that St. Louis is picked apart by The Partnership, that has pieces and interests in Strip Clubs in East St. Louis (Sauget, Brooklyn, etc) and they run some bookies/ sharks in South St. Louis. I could name a few of the bars they mentioned where these guys operate. Most of them are former Teamster guys, most of the names were Italian, some names that could be familiar to people on the boards. I can't vouch for the info, just the source. Which not-for-nothin, is pretty credible.

Edited for subject/verb agreement.


Does this bloodline has a surname that begins with a "T', cousins to people with a surname starting with a "Z" wink


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: SilentPartnerz] #744005
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Originally Posted By: SilentPartnerz
Originally Posted By: TonyG
Thanks - did not know this. No surprise the papers did not mention his illustrious past.


TonyG, do you know who is still active in St. Louis. Is Nino Parrino really the boss? Some accurate info on this Family would be good to hear. Thanks, J


As noted above, there is really nothing to be boss of in St Louis. I reported the living made guys in a previous post earlier this year but I cannot recall which thread. According to my research, these are the guys who have been reported (law enforcement, indictments or newspapers) as made guys in St. Louis, with approximate age in parenthesis:

Anthony "Nino" Parrino (76)
Giacomo "Jack" Parrino(80)
Joseph "Joe" Pisciotta(88)
Frank Palazzolo (67)
Vincent "Vinny" Cammarata (59)
Fernando "Nando" Bartolotta (56)

Joseph "Joe" Cammarata (88) - deceased in Sept 2013

I have not been able to verify anyone else rumored / speculated to have been made. There has been virtually zero media reports in the STL papers since Trupiano died.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: IvyLeague] #744007
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
I doubt theres anything left to be boss of, i dont think theres even 5 made guys left alive. The last activity reported about st louis was a guy(forget his name) running a card game on union time, that was a few years back.


That was Mike Trupiano and it was in the early 1990's. There's no viable LCN family left in St. Louis and there hasn't been for some time.


Who are you edward j hoover??? There is no mafia!!! Not in St Louis, FBI !!! FBI!!

Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: FrankMazola] #744214
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Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
Some friends of mine (these people share a name and bloodline with a last name in Detroit) said that St. Louis is picked apart by The Partnership, that has pieces and interests in Strip Clubs in East St. Louis (Sauget, Brooklyn, etc) and they run some bookies/ sharks in South St. Louis. I could name a few of the bars they mentioned where these guys operate. Most of them are former Teamster guys, most of the names were Italian, some names that could be familiar to people on the boards. I can't vouch for the info, just the source. Which not-for-nothin, is pretty credible.

Edited for subject/verb agreement.


That is consistent with what I have heard - a little book making and loan sharking, almost all on the south side.

I have not heard about them currently being in the strip clubs over on the east side. They were a long time ago, when Nando Bartoltotta / Mike Trupiano were hidden partners in a few massage parlors with Dennis Sonnenschein, who was a front. The ATF and FBI got them on tape discussing how the profits were cut between Art Berne, Joey Auippa, Nando and Trupiano.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Persini93] #744216
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Nondo owns horses. "Blackjack Frank" won me 50 bucks in 2009.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Persini93] #744225
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I did not know Nondo had horses these days. I did see that the Missouri Gaming Commission added him to the Involuntary Exclusion list in 2009.

https://www.mgc.dps.mo.gov/CasinoExclusionsweb/ReportByName.aspx

I never heard any details on why / how he got added to the excluded list. I suppose he can go the track, but cannot place a bet.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Persini93] #744247
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That's crazy. Yeah, I wonder if he's on Illinois' list too. After all, the track is in Illinois.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Persini93] #744263
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Frank - check your PM.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Tony_Pro] #744419
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"Some friends of mine (these people share a name and bloodline with a last name in Detroit)"

I understand if you don't want to answer this, but do any of these people on a car related (I believe it is a sound system shop but I'm not sure) store on north lindbergh in Hazelwood/Florissant. I don't know anything about it and it could be just a coincidence, but I've just been interested since I've been reading more lately. (I don;t want to say the name, it's a bad thing to accuse someone of without sound reason and evidence)

Also, if what is left of the mob actually operates in East St. /Louis, then it really is dead because calling east st. louis a shithole would be overhyping it. It is even worse than north st. louis. The only valuables you'd find over there would be in someones teeth.

Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: StLguy] #746926
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Originally Posted By: StLguy
"Some friends of mine (these people share a name and bloodline with a last name in Detroit)"

I understand if you don't want to answer this, but do any of these people on a car related (I believe it is a sound system shop but I'm not sure) store on north lindbergh in Hazelwood/Florissant. I don't know anything about it and it could be just a coincidence, but I've just been interested since I've been reading more lately. (I don;t want to say the name, it's a bad thing to accuse someone of without sound reason and evidence)

Also, if what is left of the mob actually operates in East St. /Louis, then it really is dead because calling east st. louis a shithole would be overhyping it. It is even worse than north st. louis. The only valuables you'd find over there would be in someones teeth.


I know who you are speaking of....starts with a B ends with an O. They are not involved, but had relatives that were. One of them was murdered back in the 40's or 50's.

It is hard to say what is left over on the east side. Everyone pretty much thought it was done when Stoneking got them all locked up and Berne died. But there is very clear evidence that Tom Venezia picked up where Wortman's old crew left off. Venezia's company that got busted for video poker, B&H Vending, was owned by Buster Wortman's brother. Interesting that the feds said he took in $48 million in the 6 years prior to '96 when he was busted, but died living in pretty poor conditions.

I don't know who owns all the titty bars and spas over there, but I would not be surprised if they were old friends of Tom Venezia's and the old east side crew. All of those little towns have been corrupt for a long time, including St. Claire county.


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Re: Joseph Cammarata of The St. Louis mafia [Re: Persini93] #747255
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hey thanks mike for the things you sent to me @tonyg you are my life savor lol


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