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I have lost faith #742521
10/01/13 09:00 PM
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I have lost faith in our government. I truly have.

I recognize the extreme branch of the GOP is holding the government hostage when such actions are not needed at the moment. This is not the time to dabble and bicker over party ideals. The extreme conservative Republicans need to realize now is not the time to gut Obamacare. It's a law, upheld by the Supreme Court, and honestly it's better than nothing. I'm curious to see how it will fare with the American people.

That being said I do think that there are huge flaws in this law that need to be fixed because we're already seeing them be exploited. It's NOT the perfect solution to our health care problems but it's a start.

The Tea party cannot strangle the rest of the Republicans. They cannot do so to Boehner or to any of the other moderates. It's a disgrace to our country and the citizens who live in it.

I won't put all the blame on them however. While I believe the Tea baggers are a big part of the blame, everyone must share it. I despise our current government. I don't like Obama, the Senate, or the House. Because all of them have forgotten the purpose of why they are in Capitol Hill in the first place: to serve. Not for themselves, but the for motherfucking goddamn people they represent!! Is that so hard to ask.

As an independent voter, as an American citizen I am appalled and ashamed at our legislative body's refusal to get along and Obama not taking a firm enough stance on this. There's no leadership anymore and America is a train going off the tracks.

I don't know how else to say it. Congress, if any of you are wandering on to a random mafia forum dedicated to the Godfather, ready my very angry text.

The people of this country are tired of this shit. Clean up your act, compromise, think of your country, and lift this government shutdown!!!


"Don't ever go against the family again. Ever"- Michael Corleone
Re: I have lost faith [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #742522
10/01/13 09:25 PM
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Uh, the Democrats refuse to even talk to the Republicans. I'm an independent too, but I'm glad the GOP grew a pair and decided to stand up to the party of bullies and thugs. As an independent guy, if you're mad at the "Tea baggers" why are not also angry at the "Occupy baggers"? If you are going to say "a pox on both their houses," then why only pick on one side? The left wing goes all the way from the Occupy Movement, MoveOn.org and every other George Soros funded group, the Huffington Post, The Nation, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, the AARP (which receives over $1 billion as part of a deal with Obama), Planned Parenthood, the National Education Association, the NAACP, the ACLU, etc. Where's the condemnation they so richly deserve? Why the double-standard? Do you really think the Dems would be so far to the left if not for all those groups? C'mon.

By the way, this isn't the first time we have had a government shutdown. Guess what? The world didn't end.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdown_in_the_United_States

As for as who is to blame, it is clearly Obama and Reid, as Reuters even recognizes:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/01/us-usa-fiscal-idUSBRE98N11220131001

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Re: I have lost faith [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #742523
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You're right Faithful. Believe me I hate the extreme left as much as I hate the extreme right


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Re: I have lost faith [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #742530
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How many of those assholes in Washington are still collecting their pay even though they fucked up?


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: I have lost faith [Re: Mignon] #742532
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Originally Posted By: Mignon
How many of those assholes in Washington are still collecting their pay even though they fucked up?


Too many Mig, too many.


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Re: I have lost faith [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #742550
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Was/Is the same in Britain too..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

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Re: I have lost faith [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #742568
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In 1979 the Democratic-controlled House forced a shutdown in order to give themselves and their senior staffers a 5.5% raise. Now Obama and Harry Reid caused a shutdown and refuse to even talk with the House. Harry Reid has been a "party of No" all by himself since 2006.

Re: I have lost faith [Re: Mignon] #742815
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Originally Posted By: Mignon
How many of those assholes in Washington are still collecting their pay even though they fucked up?

Mig- I think all of congress and Senate are collecting full pay
and most likely Supreme Court too. I know oboma is, and he is just waiting to take his next trip, so he wants the Republicans to cave in quick so as to not inconvenience him.

Re: I have lost faith [Re: bigboy] #742894
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Originally Posted By: bigboy
Originally Posted By: Mignon
How many of those assholes in Washington are still collecting their pay even though they fucked up?

Mig- I think all of congress and Senate are collecting full pay
and most likely Supreme Court too. I know oboma is, and he is just waiting to take his next trip, so he wants the Republicans to cave in quick so as to not inconvenience him.


The president canceled his trip to the summits in Asia due to Congress' inability to pass the funding bill.

Re: I have lost faith [Re: klydon1] #742906
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: bigboy
Originally Posted By: Mignon
How many of those assholes in Washington are still collecting their pay even though they fucked up?

Mig- I think all of congress and Senate are collecting full pay
and most likely Supreme Court too. I know oboma is, and he is just waiting to take his next trip, so he wants the Republicans to cave in quick so as to not inconvenience him.


The president canceled his trip to the summits in Asia due to Congress' inability to pass the funding bill.


But he didn't cancel his trips to the golf course, which miraculously stayed open during the shutdown.


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