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Bobby Deluca #737616
08/30/13 01:32 PM
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Many of us, including myself assumed that he would be used in the Bulger trial when he all of a sudden disappeared.

Why do you think they pulled him off the streets and who could be used against at this point...?


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Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737625
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It was decided by the Feds that DeLuca wasn't needed for the Bulger trial, as Weeks and Flemmi did plenty of damage. DeLuca has been an informant for over a decade and he gave up the strip club racket, the Big Dig extortion racket and all illegal gambling in Rhode Island and Boston. His secret testimony and information pipeline led to the arrests of Peter Limone, Carmen & Anthony DiNunzio, Mark Rossetti, Darin Bufalino, Anthony St. Laurent, Luigi Manocchio, Eddy Lato and all others connected to the strip club operation. If you remember, St. Laurent has been accusing him of being an informant for at least a decade and was seeking permission to whack DeLuca, but Baby Shacks and other high ranking members thought the Saint was delusional and on drugs...turned out he was spot on the entire time. New England is as good as toast, they are on life support.

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737628
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i agree, hey let the italians keep getting the headlines and attention, they drive caddis we take the T lol


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Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737638
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Thanks, I wasn't aware he was the guy behind all those guys going down/away.

Who would have thought the Saint was right on the money...


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Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737641
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I wouldn't say "Weeks and Flemmi" did the damage, more like Weeks and Martorano. There are reasons they didn't pin Davis' death on Bulger, mainly because Flemmi BOMBED on the stand. He was worthless to the government.

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: dixiemafia] #737733
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Agreed, I meant to add Mortarano but forgot, nice call. Does anybody have any idea where they moved DeLuca? Has there been any sightings..He LOVES New England, so there is a good chance he could be in NH or Maine.

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737743
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I wonder when DeLuca became a informant. I bet in 2006 they played him the tapes of saint telling them 2 guys he had permission from the old man to kill DeLuca. he did 10yrs and that's what he gets. he probably had no choice but to become a cw when the strip club indictment came out cause it was all baby shcks even after he stepped down for limone in 2009. there was all types of rumors saying in he was underboss boss noway he didn't get a caught out of anything but his bookies. when he was claiming st Laurent was one of the rats who gave up the induction ceromy in 1989 he was wrong the fbi disclosed to DeLuca and salemmi who all the 4 or 5 guys were on the affidavit in 1998 but its was sealed from the public. so there no way saint would be back on the street earning right up to 2006. by DeLuca publicly calling him a rat end to be proven wrong was the ok for DeLuca to be taken out. and even at saints sentencing where he aknowledge baby shacks a once being the boss I think he got the ok because it was out DeLuca flipped in 2011. shit all the guys admitted to being soldiers capos and acting bosses, the feds like to bust there balls. the Genovese have been doing in for the last 20yrs admitteing membershio if the d/a/ makes them for the plea deals. couple Gambino wouldn't admit and got extra months or yrs. I don't understand why baby shacks let a whole bunch of boston guys get made but kept rhode island to our knowledge small, half the state Italian. all they made guys kids didn't get made either other then ray jr. theres tons of wannbe, I guess that bonfiglio was made cause in the video of roseeti mothers wake he sitiing at the table with limone. I still think there more then 12 solders in rhode island. they got 2 or 3 lowkey in Worcester area. its just such a mobbed up state seems like it would never end. saint was nick bianco driver for awhile think he was made in the 70tys. if they got DeLuca a lot of people would be on the street guess he had some kids when he came home from the 10yrs.

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737786
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BOBBY DELUCA WAS NOT AN INFORMANT FOR 10 YEARS WHERE DO YOU EVEN COME UP WITH SHIT LIKE THAT?? HE FLIPPED AFTER GETTING BUSTED FOR SENDING ALBI TO GET MONEY FROM SOMEBODY. AFTER THAT HE WORE A WIRE ON EDDY LATO AND GOT EVERYONE IN TROUBLE. AND ANOTHER THING ANTHONY THE SAINT NEVER TOLD NOONE BOBBY WAS A RAT IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. BACK IN THE 90S WHEN DELUCA GOT INDICTED WITH FRANK SALEMME FROM BOSTON AND EVERYONE IT CAME OUT IN THE DISCLOSURE PAPERS FROM A WIRETAP BETWEEN KENNY GUARINO THE PORN PRODUCER AND A WISEGUY FROM NY THAT RECORDED TWO FBI AGENTS SAYING THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD THE SAINT TELL THEM WHAT TO HAVE GUARINO SAY. SO AFTER THAT DELICA WENT AND TOLD EVERYONE ST LAURENT WAS A RAT

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737787
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AND THERE NO POINT IN EVEN TALKIN ABOUT HIM LITTLE BALD FAG

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: MANTON] #737790
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Originally Posted By: MANTON
AND THERE NO POINT IN EVEN TALKIN ABOUT HIM LITTLE BALD FAG


Don't type in all caps and cut out the name calling.


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Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: MANTON] #737987
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Contrary to your statement, law enforcement and investigators from WPRI Providence confirmed that DeLuca had a "friendly" relationship with the FBI dating back to 2003-2004. He may have decided to cooperate "fully" after getting busted, but he also fed law enforcement information on rivals and a few wise guys in the North End during that time. The Saint "DID" contend that DeLuca was a rat and Deluca countered by saying the same things about the Saint. Get your facts straight.

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737989
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Wasnt the saint picked up on wiretap sayn deluca was a rat?seems like alot of these older guys from boston are friendly with the cops or feds.seriously i bet there could be a thread on just that.im sure theres more stand up then bad but dam.


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Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: tommykarate] #737991
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The Saint started suspecting DeLuca of being a rat shortly after the "making ceremony" in Medford, MA was caught on tape.

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: MANTON] #737993
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You have 2 posts on this site and you're New England's foremost mob authority?

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #737997
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The Saint actually had a conversation picked up via body wire, trying to convince two up n' commers to whack Deluca and said the "old Man" had approved it although there seems to be zero proof of that.

I think Deluca was disgusted with the life after his last stretch and when he got out he probably thought he could get some insurance by feeding the fed some tid bits now and again.


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Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #738130
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hahahah i dont know what sources you got but theyr bullshit. the saint never told no body deluca was a rat that is 100 parcent bologna he told everyone he wanted him dead for accusin him of being a rat. thats on wiretaps too from nardolillo and ricky silva and confirmed from crites and the guy he tried havin do it once he got in jail who also was a rat why dont u go ask wpri who that is ok?? how funny u have to have lots of posts on this thing to know whats up??? i could go on but think what ever u want

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: MANTON] #738132
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FYI-I do professional research for several mob authors and my sources are two FBI agents in Providence and the lead investigator for WPRI Providence. You must know more than the FBI...IDIOT! DeLuca called the Saint a rat because the Saint suspected him of being a rat...which he was. The wiretaps didn't pick up half the conversations that took place about DeLuca. CI stated that Joe Ruggiero and Baby Shacks discussed the "notion" of DeLuca being a rat and both of them thought the Saint was gooned out on drugs.

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Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #738135
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a ci stated that so they were part of a convo with joe ruggiero and baby shacks??? aint u the same guy that said joe ruggiero wanted nothing to do with running things but had the respect??? haha thats funny everybody knows hes the biggest wannabe that ever was made if he could be in charge he would shit his pants in 2 fucking seconds. i hope ur professional research dont mean u get paid for it i mean anybody can use there imagination. i knew both these guys goin back almost 40 years so go make up some more shit

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: MANTON] #738136
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LOL-Baby Shacks talked to Joe about everything, it was his constant companion, somebody he spoke to about private LCN business. The bottom line is that two Feds and a lead investigator confirmed what I reiterated whether you believe it or not...the other bottom line...LCN is dead in Providence and on life support in Boston, it's going to take a miracle to get the family back to respectability.

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: MANTON] #738138
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I'll take the high road and agree to disagree

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: JCB1977] #738168
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Originally Posted By: JCB1977
I'll take the high road and agree to disagree


Your a scholar holler!

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #738290
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Manton you are wrong or mistaken, do some research

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #738299
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na i aint wrong u r wrong this is all made up make beleive bullshit from this guy. bobby deluca got out of prison in 2004/2005 he had been saying stlaurent was a rat since 1995 when he got out thats when it all began with the hit ok. the induction tape was in 1989 up until 1994 95 they were partners ran a book out of the foxy lady together with POOCHIE ANGEL.and ur gonna say the st was tellin them DELUCA was a rat back then??? Like i said already when DELUCA got arrested there was a wiretap they gave the tape to his attorney and on it they were talkin about STLAURENT helpin them. thats when this thing started deluca told everyone he was a rat went to prison got out in 2005 i think and stlarent tried to kill him.he took a guy LARRY CRITES who was an informant to sidebar on dorrance street in downtown prov where deluca worked to show him where to do it that didnt work then he asked TONY NARDOLLILLO another informent to get RICKY SILVA a junkie to do it and that was the tape where he said no problem with baby shacks if they do it. ok so fast forward years later STLAURENT is gone locked up DELUCA is shakin down everyone FBI arrests him for extortion i dont wanna say the guys name here but he runs a very small used car place on Hartford ave. then DELUCA flips wears a wire on EDDY LATO gets the whole convasation about giving the $$$$ to the guy in boston and the rest of them go down. MANOCCHIO was already in prison for it the FBI already made the case this was all after the fact. AND THATS ALL FACT NO FILLING IN THE BLANKS AND MAKIN UP SHIT. and another thing i know that joe and Louis are close friends but if a ci knew about a talk they had like that he would have to be there and there not gonna talk about stuff like that with every tom dick and harry so i dont buy it

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You proved my point, you know more than the FBI and lead investigators in law enforcement? The US Government should fire every FBI agent in Boston/Providence because you know more than they do. If you were a player in Providence or Boston, you probably shouldn't be on this board because the Feds "do have the ability to monitor" and there is something called electronic fingerprints.

FYI-Because they were partners in a book, MEANS NOTHING! John Gotti and Sammy the Bull were partners as well...until Sammy heard the tapes of Gotti talking shit. I refuse to reply to another one of your derogatory comments Special Agent Manton!

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #738326
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UNLESS UR A FBI AGENT I DONT HEAR THEM SAYING YOUR MAKE BELEIVE BULLSHIT EITHER

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #738439
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Manton you seem sure I take your take. My thing in 97 98 salemmi and delucas lawyers in a motion of discovery forced the doj and judgewolf made them give up the 5 names in the affadavite for the request for the roving bug in meffords induction ceromony. It was flemmi,mecurio,whitey,some other boston guy and deluca swore it had to be the saint. Them and cardinale no who it was but it was sealed from the public. So thetes noway sainr was a rat cause the lawyers would have put the word out and he be dead or in the program. He was in good standing to 2006. Nother thing why baby shacks never make rhode island guys other than chippy lato and bongfilio. Tje boston got anthony d.s kid a couple young guys but I guess when you take over a family whose ceromonys got taped once you keep it short and sweet.

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: MANTON] #738463
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manton i like the cut of your jib. tho pucci and richie angell are 2 different people. they run the lady but richie owns other stuff ie dannys, firehouse, whiskys on admiral, etc. there probably up at saratoga betting with both hands. u part of the douglas ave. bust? haha


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Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: azguy] #738561
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I COULDNT TELL YA WHY LOUIE BABY SHACKS NEVER MADE GUYS HE LET GUYS IN BOSTON RUNAMUCK MAKING THIS ONE THAT ONE BUNCH OF PUNKS IF U ASK ME. KIDS SHOOTING PEOPLE THAT HAVE FRIENDS RIGHT IN PUBLIC THOSE THINGS WOULD NEVER BE TOLERATED IN THE OLD DAYS. FUCKIN SHAME NOT LIKE IT USED TO BE. MY FEELINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW I MEAN HE STEPPED DOWN LIVED ABOVE A LAUNDRYMAT VERY OLD SCHOOL TYPE I GUESS HE DIDNT WANT THE HEADACHES JUST WANTED THE STRIP CLUB MONEY LET GUYS DO WHAT THEY WANT AS LONG AS HE WASNT INVOLVED. CASERTA TO ANSWER U NO I WASNT PART OF ANY BUST. DOUGLAS AVE I GUESS U MEAN DANNYS I WAS NOT INVOLVED

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AND TO BE CLEAR I DONT THINK STLAURENT WAS A RAT I MEAN HE IS IN PRISON NOW WHAT DOES THAT SAY?? MAYBE HE GAVE SOME INFO SOMETIMES I THINK MOST OF THE WISEGUYS DO TO TELL THE TRUTH BUT I NEVR LIKED HIM MUCH AND BOBBY NEITHER BUT BOBBY DELUCA WAS A WORM ALL HIS LIFE SINCE HE WAS RUNNING AROUND ON CHARLES ST

Re: Bobby Deluca [Re: MANTON] #738563
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Manton, please take your cap lock off.


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