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Genovese family and theyre Money and Control #736244
08/23/13 06:43 AM
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Control of Bus Drivers Union from
Jules Burnstein testified he collected 1k per year , per route, over 5 that any one company had
The following companies paid The Genovese LCN Yearly
SABARROS PIZZA
20k Yearly
1960s-2007
Dominick Cirillo who received the loot


Atlantic Express-Value
Owned by Dominick F Gatto
Company Revenue $428 million
1970s to 2008
$1k a year for every route over 5
1736 routes
$1,731,000 Yearly

All American School Bus Corp,City Wide Transit and Rainbow Trainsit
Owned by Ray Fouche a woman
Company Revenue $78.2 Million
1980s to 2008
$1k a year for every route over 5
369 routes
$364,000 Yearly

Jofaz Transportation,Third Avenue Transit,Boro Wide Buses
Owned by John Fazzia
Company Revenue $55.6 million
1980s to 2008
1k a year for every route over 5
290 Routes
$285,000 yearly

Safe Coach
Owned by Robert Dimino
Company Revenue $32 million
1980s to 20081k a year for every route over 5
32 Routes
$27,000 Yearly




Last edited by Louiebynochi; 08/23/13 06:45 AM.

A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #736256
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Good post thank you. Thats nice to be able to look at the dollar amount.

Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #736270
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Good post this is why Genovese family are the best


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #736302
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Great info. Thanks for this.

Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #736318
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The Genovese just seem to knuckle down and earn cash.
They've not had a Jimmy Burke, Tommy Karate or Roy Demeo to draw major police attention.
We know so little about the "Westside" compared to the other 4 families

Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: GaryH] #736326
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Originally Posted By: GaryH
The Genovese just seem to knuckle down and earn cash.
They've not had a Jimmy Burke, Tommy Karate or Roy Demeo to draw major police attention.
We know so little about the "Westside" compared to the other 4 families


All you have to do is look over the last 20 ears of the most important coopearative witness against the big six families
Luchese-Acting Boss Al Darco
Bonnano-Underboss Sal Vitale
Gambino-Underboss Salvatore Gravano
Colombo-Consigliere Carmine Sessa
Genovese-Soldier George Barone
Chicago-Soldier Nicholas Calabrese

Soldiers dont have the same impact when they flip like Somone that's high ranking and oversees different aspects of the family
They don't cause as deep of an impact or cause near as much disruption to families rackets as an underboss, acting boss, consigliere or any member of a cosa nostra administration for that matter

Last edited by Louiebynochi; 08/23/13 02:08 PM.

A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #736332
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True.

Another example is Albert Gallo.
In all likelihood he should have met the Grim Reaper years ago.
BUT after transferring to the Genovese, the cowboy antics stopped and he got on with earning and has lived to a ripe old age.
The Genovese sure do keep their guys in check.

Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #736378
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Originally Posted By: Louiebynochi
Originally Posted By: GaryH
The Genovese just seem to knuckle down and earn cash.
They've not had a Jimmy Burke, Tommy Karate or Roy Demeo to draw major police attention.
We know so little about the "Westside" compared to the other 4 families


All you have to do is look over the last 20 ears of the most important coopearative witness against the big six families
Luchese-Acting Boss Al Darco
Bonnano-Underboss Sal Vitale
Gambino-Underboss Salvatore Gravano
Colombo-Consigliere Carmine Sessa
Genovese-Soldier George Barone
Chicago-Soldier Nicholas Calabrese

Soldiers dont have the same impact when they flip like Somone that's high ranking and oversees different aspects of the family
They don't cause as deep of an impact or cause near as much disruption to families rackets as an underboss, acting boss, consigliere or any member of a cosa nostra administration for that matter

geneveses have had 2 captains flipped since barone(Tranghese and ruggiero), and you think vitale was a more important witness than massino?


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Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Dellacroce] #736399
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Vitale yes, it's not even close, vitale by miles
And ruggerio and tranghese where no where near as important as barOne
We will find out a lot more about the Genovese and Chicago when a capo flips
And for the Genovese I mean a ny capo, someone that's responsible for one of theryre industries like garbage,construction,iron workers, roofers and carpenters and bus drivers and the waterfront, tobacco workers , San gennaro festival, united commercial food workers and the union of liquor distributors etc etc

Last edited by Louiebynochi; 08/23/13 05:53 PM.

A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #736408
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Vitale and his fat fuck brother in law are probably together jerking each other off the way they jerked the goverment off. Smartest fucken guys around both out and cashed up.


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Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #1021227
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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: GaryH] #1021237
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If the other Families could take a page out of the Genovese book the entire New York Mafia could be strong again.

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Originally Posted by DillyDolly
If the other Families could take a page out of the Genovese book the entire New York Mafia could be strong again.

But how
There are even any young italian americans who will join the mob ?

Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: MeyerLansky] #1021269
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I'm talking about with the people they already have, and if the Families are recruiting anyone I'd think it would be Italians rather than Italian-Americans. I'm just talking about changing their tactics, becoming more sophisticated, never being flashy, being extremely surveillance-conscious, just like the Genoveses. Come on this isn't rocket science, why am I having to explain.

Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: MeyerLansky] #1021290
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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
Originally Posted by DillyDolly
If the other Families could take a page out of the Genovese book the entire New York Mafia could be strong again.

But how
There are even any young italian americans who will join the mob ?


Because they aren’t recruiting the right ones. Because they are stuck in the 20th century. Most of the old rackets are gone and you don’t need as much muscle for the new ones. There’s a ton of money out there to grab but it’s more sophisticated now. Just look at hacker shit like ransomware attacks. Put up more walls to protect from ratting and go after talent with the skills for organized crime in 2021. Bring in muscle from the other side and insulate that against ratting too.

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Sounds like a great strategy

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Even to this day, almost every major restaurant in Manhattan belongs to the west side. It's almost ridiculous


But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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They will never eliminate Cosa Nostra,


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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Even to this day, almost every major restaurant in Manhattan belongs to the west side. It's almost ridiculous


There are hundreds of major restaurants in Manhattan, I think that would not be possible. They definitely are involved in a few, and own them openly.

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Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Even to this day, almost every major restaurant in Manhattan belongs to the west side. It's almost ridiculous


There are hundreds of major restaurants in Manhattan, I think that would not be possible. They definitely are involved in a few, and own them openly.


Some one opens a new Restaurant in NYC, I don't see anyone walking in and trying to shake them down anymore.
The Restaurant owner will just call the FBI... And thats all FOLKS

Re: Genovese family and theyre Money and Control [Re: Louiebynochi] #1028197
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They don't always shake them down like they used to.

They simply coerce them to get services from companies they control.

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I don't know about NYC , but at least 5,000 restaurants in Italy are thought to be mafia-run.


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