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Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #740863
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He is a made guy, not a capo. I should have been more specific. He was a part of the group that Cicero made during the early part of the decade.

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The Outfit & the Philadelphia family are extremely close with certain Cycle gang families. It's been this way for a while, this Is nothing new. Polchan is highly respected by the Cicero people. The Cicero upper echelon is highly respected & sought after by Carparelli.

How would Nick C being paid for hits be relevant to anything that was in question during family secrets? If hits are a made guys bread & butter, how else do you think he is getting paid that month? Hits take rigorous planning & lots of time.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #740872
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Jimmy Marcello was the #1 within the entire Chicago Outfit, what a ridiculous comparison.


Look, I think the guy sounds like a bit of a buffoon from the quotes. Who cares.

Regarding the more interesting question of cash payments for specific jobs, I just never heard of it before. Why Family Secrets? Because for various reasons it was the most clear insight into the mob we are likely to have for a long time.

And during that entire trial there was never a mention of when they sent out Frank C and/or Nick C, or anyone else, to kill someone, of there being a cash handoff.

Why would it come up? Why would it not come up?

I suppose the thinking is that if you are part of the hierarchy you are already on the payroll, so to speak, and carrying out specific acts of violence is your job.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just that I don't remember ever hearing about it before.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #740875
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Not many know this, but Mark Polchan was somewhat of a second son to John "Apes" Monteleone. Polchan grew up down the street from the Monteleone family and dated Apes' daughter (they grew up in Cicero). His connection with the Outfit isn't a new one or one formed over his biker gang. Polchan ran a burglary crew and is a burglar by trade. When August Monteleone (Apes' son) opened his jewelry exchange, Polchan was responsible for a lot of the early inventory. Polchan guy ran errands for the Outfit from day 1...he was just into the biker thing like a few of his relatives.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: jonnynonos] #740876
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I've read plenty of instances in New York where made guys were given money by their higher ups to dish out violence. I don't really think its all that out of the ordinary.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #740888
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The Polchan's connection to the Cicero family is deep rooted, very true, he is deeply respected down there. Apes adored him, and Apes was as boss as boss gets within the Outfit.

But people act like its blasphemous for lcn guys to fraternize with/depend on biker guys. Again, the Outfit & Philly families have a long, storied history of doing close business with biker gangs. It wasn't strange or out of the ordinary when Sarno & Toots commissioned that bombing & employed outlaw guys to help out with it. That's run of the mill, particularly in Cicero.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #742445
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Nah, he's a legit capo [???] with a very tough crew under him, otherwise the feds wouldn't have even bothered with two years of surveillance.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #742446
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I corrected myself. I was lumping capo & made man into same category, NY style.

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Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #767724
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
The Polchan's connection to the Cicero family is deep rooted, very true, he is deeply respected down there. Apes adored him, and Apes was as boss as boss gets within the Outfit.

But people act like its blasphemous for lcn guys to fraternize with/depend on biker guys. Again, the Outfit & Philly families have a long, storied history of doing close business with biker gangs. It wasn't strange or out of the ordinary when Sarno & Toots commissioned that bombing & employed outlaw guys to help out with it. That's run of the mill, particularly in Cicero.


I know it is nothing new and it has gone on for years....I just find it low class and frankly, I never trusted those nasty sons of bitches.


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