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Bowat Baratta still active? #732619
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He was heavily involved in the babania and did around 20 years. Just got released last year. I would imagine that most of the people from his crew in the early 1990's are dead or doing life.
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #732624
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Great question.

Keen to know as well. Anyone have any info on his current status?

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #743360
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As in "Very" active? And how about Lastorino and Avellino?
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #743363
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Originally Posted By: mulberry
He was heavily involved in the babania and did around 20 years. Just got released last year. I would imagine that most of the people from his crew in the early 1990's are dead or doing life.



Both baratta and lastorino are in the administration of the family

A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #743364
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Currently? That is obvioiusly shocking for an array of reasons. Who has which position?
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #743425
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Can't see Crea putting Lastorino in the administration.

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: TommyGambino] #743763
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Bowat Baratta was talked about quite a bit in D'Arco's new book. He says how he was a big time heroin dealer, he ate in all the best restaurants, and how D'Arco, Crea, and Daidone were planning to kill Bowat and Casso. D'Arco definitely has it out for Bowat and he incessantly during the book goes out of his way to insult him. Bowat's favorite restaurant apparently is Sandro's on the Upper East Side....I've never ate there.
Funny how things turn around because later on it would be Lastorino, Zappola, and Conte who wanted to kill Crea.
Bowat also had a big amount of sit downs with Crea about a table at Rao's while they all were in prison.....pretty ridiculous.
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: AntonioRotolo] #743769
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Originally Posted By: AntonioRotolo
Bowat also had a big amount of sit downs with Crea about a table at Rao's while they all were in prison.....pretty ridiculous.

Absurd is more like it. Greg DePalma actually wanted to KILL Nicky LaSorsa---a guy he knew for half his life---in a similar beef rolleyes.

And I've posted this before, but I've eaten at Rao's twice in my life, and the food ain't all that special. It's the same family style, NY Italian that you'll find in Bamonte's in Williamsburg or Dominick's in the Bronx or Don Pepe's in Queens. The food in those places is just as good without any of the phony pretension and celebrity bullshit. True story smile.

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #743805
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George Zappola and George Conte both get out next year followed by Frank Papagni in 2015.

Coupled with Bowat and Lastorino I wonder if these changes will affect the landscape at all.

Should make for interesting viewing.

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: AntonioRotolo] #743944
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Originally Posted By: AntonioRotolo
Bowat Baratta was talked about quite a bit in D'Arco's new book. He says how he was a big time heroin dealer, he ate in all the best restaurants, and how D'Arco, Crea, and Daidone were planning to kill Bowat and Casso. D'Arco definitely has it out for Bowat and he incessantly during the book goes out of his way to insult him. Bowat's favorite restaurant apparently is Sandro's on the Upper East Side....I've never ate there.
Funny how things turn around because later on it would be Lastorino, Zappola, and Conte who wanted to kill Crea.
Bowat also had a big amount of sit downs with Crea about a table at Rao's while they all were in prison.....pretty ridiculous.


Baratta has heroin related arrest going back something like 50 years, he's one of them guys very lucky to not be in prison for life. I think he was evev caught in prison setting up heroin deals. I've never heard of him doing hits for casso and amuso though.
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #783475
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Baratta was instrumental in setting up and planning the hit on Kubecka and Barstow.

What kind of stuff does D'Arco say about Baratta in his book?

Was D'Arco Daidone's Capo back in the day?

I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #799687
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
George Zappola and George Conte both get out next year followed by Frank Papagni in 2015.

Coupled with Bowat and Lastorino I wonder if these changes will affect the landscape at all.

Should make for interesting viewing.


Were all these guys skippers in Brooklyn ?

Also is this the crew that is supposed to change the landscape in the Lucchese family.
And if so i am sure that they have been in contact with Amuso through many that plot behind Crea's back.
I am sure that most are happy with all being quiet, and making money,there are always the guys in this life that love the turmoil.

Does anyone have any inside word from BK ,It has to be the the talk at the local Ginmill.....

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #799700
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I can't see crea choosing anyone from the Brooklyn faction as his underboss especially wen they were convicted of plotting to kill him , my bet is there counting there lucky stars there not dead and they haven't been shelved
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: domwoods74] #799703
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
I can't see crea choosing anyone from the Brooklyn faction as his underboss especially wen they were convicted of plotting to kill him , my bet is there counting there lucky stars there not dead and they haven't been shelved


By the same token, Amuso overlooked Crea conspiring to kill him - probably because Crea is so enterprising.

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: Moe_Tilden] #799709
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
I can't see crea choosing anyone from the Brooklyn faction as his underboss especially wen they were convicted of plotting to kill him , my bet is there counting there lucky stars there not dead and they haven't been shelved

Yeah, we're still waiting for Brooklyn to make their play, aren't we? I mean, a few of them have been home awhile now. I'll bet they're gonna wait twenty years to make their move. Sicilian style! lol

Never fucking happen.

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By the same token, Amuso overlooked Crea conspiring to kill him - probably because Crea is so enterprising.

What else could Amuso do but overlook it? Unless you're buying into that Capeci article from last month. And I'm not judging you if you are. That's your right. But I stand by my own opinion that the only thing Vic is ordering from prison is Snickers bars from his commissary account.

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #799713
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I agree pb,i think he calls no shots what so ever.the genoveses are making good money with crea and thats what matters.I saw somebody changed wikipedia page about the lucchese's.it says that crea is street boss to amuso.i mean come on,who can belive that.Maybe dom cefalu is just a street boss for junio gotti,why not smile smile wink
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: alexandarns] #799715
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Originally Posted By: alexandarns
I agree pb

I'll sleep better tonight knowing that, Alex tongue grin.

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: pizzaboy] #799717
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If sarcasm was a reason to get whacked PB , you would be the first one to be found in the trunk of a car lol whistle
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: domwoods74] #799719
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
If sarcasm was a reason to get whacked PB , you would be the first one to be found in the trunk of a car lol whistle

But I'm lovable. Like Don Rickles whistle.

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #799722
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Why?you don't sleep as good when i don't agree with you. I agree with you all the time pb ,you know that pb wink wink grin
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: pizzaboy] #799723
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: domwoods74
If sarcasm was a reason to get whacked PB , you would be the first one to be found in the trunk of a car lol whistle

But I'm lovable. Like Don Rickles whistle.


Don Rickles.... the name kinda escapes me right now. Wasn´t he the head of the LA Mafia?

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: HairyKnuckles] #799725
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No hairy , he is the current underboss of the outfit
Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #799728
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Ok getting the thread back on track from the above childishness:

Word on the street is it was Cefalu who stabbed Junior outside the 7/11.
The greaseball was holding back his full kick and Don Steroid abuse wasn't happy.
Sneaking Sicilian had a butter knife in his cane.

Amuso's holding the sit down in the shoe...

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: domwoods74] #799735
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
No hairy , he is the current underboss of the outfit


lol

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #799748
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I think i am getting this. All but one is out .

The rest were told to "sit" and they are doing what they were told...

They are not shelved ,and are still in the family, making money.

Man it must be a be rough knowing that at any min one or some of these guys could make a move and bring that family right back to 1990 .

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: mulberry] #799755
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Crea is not demanding much from Brooklyn. I think his thinking live and let live at the moment. Lot of these guys remembers what happened in the 80's and 90's and do not want a repeat of it, which would weaken the families if that started up again. I believe Baratta is still active but only as a soldier. We won't know unless someone flips who knows what is going on in the Lucchese crime family.

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Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
Crea is not demanding much from Brooklyn. I think his thinking live and let live at the moment. Lot of these guys remembers what happened in the 80's and 90's and do not want a repeat of it, which would weaken the families if that started up again.

That's true enough, but it's not just that. Brooklyn just doesn't have the horses. Period. Stevie has the complete support of the Westside because of their construction partnerships and all the money they whacked up through 282. Everyone from QD to Louie D to Barney himself loves the guy. That can not be understated.

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Giacomo - PB : Clear, many thanks

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Re: Bowat Baratta still active? [Re: Serpiente] #799844
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how are we so sure Amuso likes Snickers? he always struck me as more of an M&M's guy.........

that'd make for a great thread subject lol

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