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Re: Non Italian made members [Re: SC] #736415
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: carmela
Try on any Italian with any of that Moor/Black shit and you're getting popped in the nose. No 2 ways about it.


All "whites" have some black DNA. Some ethnic groups have a higher percentage than others. Depends on how strict you want to define a certain group or race.

It basically comes down to we are all one race. The human race.
Not Carmela she is from mean race ,Just ask her ,I am not


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Re: Non Italian made members [Re: Thaddeus] #736420
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I remember my grandmother would always hate it when I suggested that maybe we had moor/black ancenstry but honestly, after seeing all of the studies that have come out over the years, I think it's pretty well know that many Italians have moor/black/middle eastern etc. ancestry.

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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: carmela
Try on any Italian with any of that Moor/Black shit and you're getting popped in the nose. No 2 ways about it.


All "whites" have some black DNA. Some ethnic groups have a higher percentage than others. Depends on how strict you want to define a certain group or race.

It basically comes down to we are all one race. The human race.
Not Carmela she is from mean race ,Just ask her ,I am not


I am mean, you're right. Tell your friends.

Aside from that, I don't care who's got black in them, etc etc. Even my husband never cares or engages in this conversation. He's born in sicily that's all he cares about, the rest...meh...
I just know how others react to this sort of stuff.


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Re: Non Italian made members [Re: Thaddeus] #736448
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I said Arabs not 'blacks'. 'Moor' is a medieval term for Muslim population in northern Africa and Muslims in Europe (Iberia, Sicily). They were mostly Arabs and Berbers/some other northern African ethnicity that converted to islam, ie. 'whites' (Caucasoid/Europid race, to use the correct term). They weren't 'black', they just had some black slaves and soldiers with them, that's why Europeans often portrayed 'Moors' as blacks in some exotic depictions and heraldry. It's far from reality. I don't see how Italians would have any black ancestry.

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Originally Posted By: Slava
I said Arabs not 'blacks'. 'Moor' is a medieval term for Muslim population in northern Africa and Muslims in Europe (Iberia, Sicily). They were mostly Arabs and Berbers/some other northern African ethnicity that converted to islam, ie. 'whites' (Caucasoid/Europid race, to use the correct term). They weren't 'black', they just had some black slaves and soldiers with them, that's why Europeans often portrayed 'Moors' as blacks in some exotic depictions and heraldry. It's far from reality. I don't see how Italians would have any black ancestry.


I only used the term Moors b/c it was mentioned by someone else in either this thread or another one. That's not my term.

For the record, I agree with your post here 100% but others are ignorant to most of this.


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Re: Non Italian made members [Re: Thaddeus] #736451
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Re: Non Italian made members [Re: SC] #736452
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: carmela
Try on any Italian with any of that Moor/Black shit and you're getting popped in the nose. No 2 ways about it.


All "whites" have some black DNA.


What does that even mean? Do you even know about haplogroup data?


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: Non Italian made members [Re: SC] #736457
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: carmela
Try on any Italian with any of that Moor/Black shit and you're getting popped in the nose. No 2 ways about it.


All "whites" have some black DNA. Some ethnic groups have a higher percentage than others. Depends on how strict you want to define a certain group or race.

It basically comes down to we are all one race. The human race.


Well yeah we're all human. But I'm pretty sure I don't have an ounce of African American blood in me. Just saying


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Re: Non Italian made members [Re: carmela] #736475
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My wife is Sicilian .and she gets tougher each day... but sometimes she not so nice...


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Re: Non Italian made members [Re: Thaddeus] #736477
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Southern Italians are sometimes insulted if someone says that they have non-European ancestors because that's what racists from Northern Italy who don't like southerners like to point out, to 'explain' why southerners are 'inferior' to northern Italians. You even have this Padania movement in Northern Italy which wants to see the north independent from the rest of Italy and looks down on southerners. So it's natural that southern Italians are defensive when it comes to this issue, because they suspect that they're drealing with some anti-southern chauvnistic Padanian nationalism.

It's the same in the Balkans where certain nations are accused of having a lot of "Turkish blood" in them.

When I say that they have Arab blood it's strictly because I think it's true, I don't have any agenda and I don't want to be provocative or anything. It's nothing to be ashamed of anyway, Arabs who invaded Sicily were civilized and Norman-Arab culture in Sicily prospered for many years. Those 'Arabs'/Moors were mostly north Africans who were part of Roman civilization when Germanic/Nordic people were still living in woods.

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Re: Non Italian made members [Re: Slava] #736481
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Originally Posted By: Slava
Southern Italians are sometimes insulted if someone says that they have non-European ancestors because that's what racists from Northern Italy who don't like southerners like to point out, to 'explain' why southerners are 'inferior' to northern Italians. You even have this Padania movement in Northern Italy which wants to see the north independent from the rest of Italy and looks down on southerners. So it's natural that southern Italians are defensive when it comes to this issue, because they suspect that they're drealing with some anti-southern chauvnistic Padanian nationalism.

It's the same in the Balkans where certain nations are accused of having a lot of "Turkish blood" in them.

When I say that they have Arab blood it's strictly because I think it's true, I don't have any agenda and I don't want to be provocative or anything. It's nothing to be ashamed of anyway, Arabs who invaded Sicily were civilized and Norman-Arab culture in Sicily prospered for many years. Those 'Arabs'/Moors were mostly north Africans who were part of Roman civilization when Germanic/Nordic people were still living in woods.
Originally Posted By: Slava
Southern Italians are sometimes insulted if someone says that they have non-European ancestors because that's what racists from Northern Italy who don't like southerners like to point out, to 'explain' why southerners are 'inferior' to northern Italians. You even have this Padania movement in Northern Italy which wants to see the north independent from the rest of Italy and looks down on southerners. So it's natural that southern Italians are defensive when it comes to this issue, because they suspect that they're drealing with some anti-southern chauvnistic Padanian nationalism.

It's the same in the Balkans where certain nations are accused of having a lot of "Turkish blood" in them.

When I say that they have Arab blood it's strictly because I think it's true, I don't have any agenda and I don't want to be provocative or anything. It's nothing to be ashamed of anyway, Arabs who invaded Sicily were civilized and Norman-Arab culture in Sicily prospered for many years. Those 'Arabs'/Moors were mostly north Africans who were part of Roman civilization when Germanic/Nordic people were still living in woods.
well put Thankyou


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