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Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti #727694
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Anyone have any info on him and why he was taken out?

Seems like the FBI has someone that has said Anthony Calabrese was the shooter, but he hasn't been indicted.

Was he a soldier in the Cicero crew? Who could have ordered it? Marcello?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/mob/2008/01/the_feds_on_the_hatchs_demise.html
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The Hatch was a made guy in the Cicero Crew. He ran a franchise in partnership with Tonny Zizzo before he went away in the 1990's. They had soldier/associates working under them.

He got killed because there was not strong leadership at the Top of the Cicero Crew in 2001. Marcello was still in jail and had been gone for a long time. Sarno was beginning his internal feud against Chiaramonti & Zizzo. Marcello was not there for leadership and protection. Zizzo and Chiaramonti belonged to Marcello. Sarno belonged to The other Capo faction within Cicero which was headed by Ferriola and then Infelice.
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The transcript of the guy wearing a wire on Calabrese is pretty interesting if you can find it. Him and another guy (probably Robert Cooper but I don't think he's indentified in the transcript) beat the crap out of the guy wearing the wire.

Calabrese is already doing life or essentially life for something else. Cooper was convicted of the murder but it received very little media attention for some reason.

I think I remember reading that the feds are probably just waiting to play some card before/if they go after Calabrese for it.
Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti [Re: Chicago] #727699
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Originally Posted By: Chicago
The Hatch was a made guy in the Cicero Crew. He ran a franchise in partnership with Tonny Zizzo before he went away in the 1990's. They had soldier/associates working under them.

He got killed because there was not strong leadership at the Top of the Cicero Crew in 2001. Marcello was still in jail and had been gone for a long time. Sarno was beginning his internal feud against Chiaramonti & Zizzo. Marcello was not there for leadership and protection. Zizzo and Chiaramonti belonged to Marcello. Sarno belonged to The other Capo faction within Cicero which was headed by Ferriola and then Infelice.


If Chiaramonti and Zizzo were killed by Sarno, why didn't Marcello have Sarno killed?
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This is just my opinion about all of it, But it all ties in with Zizzo then disappearing. It appears that Sarno was trying to take control of things. There was also talk about the Hatch feuding with Caruso from 26th St. That could also be part of it.
Marcello lost a lot of ground because he was in jail in 2001 and had been there for a long time. There wasn't much he could do about certain things.
You can say what you want about a guy still having power from jail, but when you get right down to it, Jail is Jail.
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Wasn't part of it because Captain D's relative wanted to open a Connie's in Lyons?
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I think Marcello gave the orders on both Zizzo and Hatch. Hatch was running around pissing everybody off from Elmwood Park to Cicero to 26th Street. Had Sarno killed those guys without a green light from Marcello or Jimmy I, he would have been killed too
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Pretty interesting if Sarno was able to take out both Hatch and Zizzo.

I'm guessing he would have had to have gotten the green light from his superiors. But why take both of them out? Who benefited besides Sarno?

Leads me to believe somebody close got to Zizzo and made him disappear.

Thanks for the replies.
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Originally Posted By: Chicago
The Hatch was a made guy in the Cicero Crew. He ran a franchise in partnership with Tonny Zizzo before he went away in the 1990's. They had soldier/associates working under them.

He got killed because there was not strong leadership at the Top of the Cicero Crew in 2001. Marcello was still in jail and had been gone for a long time. Sarno was beginning his internal feud against Chiaramonti & Zizzo. Marcello was not there for leadership and protection. Zizzo and Chiaramonti belonged to Marcello. Sarno belonged to The other Capo faction within Cicero which was headed by Ferriola and then Infelice.
The more I think about it, Chicago, you're right. Sarno was probably acting on behalf of Inendino -- not Marcello. It was Inendino solidifying things through Sarno with Marcello unable to do anything about it as he was incarcerated
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It was kind of Cicero vs. Melrose Park when you think about it eh, Chicago??
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It was definitely an internal thing within Cicero. Somebody then got 26th St to also support them and then the moves were made against those people.
Zizzo and the Hatch were close. Zizzo was the Gambling type of guy and The Hatch was the Loan Sharking type of guy, a very typical partnership among made guys running a franchise. They both belonged to Carlisi, Marcello.
Within the Crew of the Top Boss, there are men who are direct with him and then there is a Capo who also has the other made men in the crew.

Example #1: Taylor St., Giancana & 2 Capos, Battaglia & Bucciere. There was no underboss of the Outfit. Giancana refused Cerone ( The Cheapskate)

Example #2: Cicero, Auippa & Capo Ferriola

Example #3: Elmwood Park, Cerone & Capo DiFronzo

With Carlisi dying and Marcello being gone for so long, I believe tension erupted within Cicero between Sarno, Chiaramonti ( Who also pissed off Caruso 26th St with his mouth) and Zizzo.

If You'll notice ONCE AGAIN, Elmwood Park sat back and did nothing.

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When all this went down, Zizzo, Hatch and Sarno were all equals, correct? Made men?
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Yes, all made men. However, by 2006, Sarno was more of an 'Acting Boss'. Zizzo was not protected because he was at odds with Sarno and the real Boss of Zizzo, Marcello, was gone.

Elmwood Park could have done something in 2001 and 2006, but they refused to be involved in the street rackets
Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti [Re: Chicago] #727788
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Originally Posted By: Chicago
It was definitely an internal thing within Cicero. Somebody then got 26th St to also support them and then the moves were made against those people.
Zizzo and the Hatch were close. Zizzo was the Gambling type of guy and The Hatch was the Loan Sharking type of guy, a very typical partnership among made guys running a franchise. They both belonged to Carlisi, Marcello.
Within the Crew of the Top Boss, there are men who are direct with him and then there is a Capo who also has the other made men in the crew.

Example #1: Taylor St., Giancana & 2 Capos, Battaglia & Bucciere. There was no underboss of the Outfit. Giancana refused Cerone ( The Cheapskate)

Example #2: Cicero, Auippa & Capo Ferriola

Example #3: Elmwood Park, Cerone & Capo DiFronzo

With Carlisi dying and Marcello being gone for so long, I believe tension erupted within Cicero between Sarno, Chiaramonti ( Who also pissed off Caruso 26th St with his mouth) and Zizzo.

If You'll notice ONCE AGAIN, Elmwood Park sat back and did nothing.



if ricca was consigliere/senior advisor and he had the real power than he was #1

so in essence giancana was underboss

with accardo basically being ricca's shield

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I believe Hatch had ripped off Michael Magnafichi and one other individual in a joint trucking company, causing hundred of thousands of dollars of losses for the other two. Also he was seen having a argument with Pete DiFronzo where the Hatch shoved Pete, not long before he was knocked down.
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Hatch didn't get knock down because of Mike Magnafichi who's not even a made guy. The Hatch never shoved Pete DiFronzo. Pete DiFronzo had nothing to do with anything concerning the Hatch. He got knocked down for the reasons stated above which was an internal Cicero thing. If you don't believe it and think the Hatch got knocked down for allegedly shoving Pete DiFronzo, so be it.
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It was Mickey Marcello that Hatch shoved before he got knocked down. Mickey was there trying to talk sense into him alongside The German, who hooked up with the Marcello brothers after he got out of prison.

Hatch was indeed in a trucking company with Magnafichi and I believe Jackie Cerone Jr.
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Chicago, I sent you a pm.
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We may find out what really happened in 20 years when there's another family secrets trial
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When, in people's opinion, was Jimmy Inendino made?

Also, when was Lou Marino made? Their ceremonies had to be around the same time period (mid to late 70s?).

What was the total duration of Inendino's time served over the past 40 years? The guy has done an obscene amount of time standing on his head. It's only natural that he & Solly D would be bosses. They were already feared & respected prior to their multiple extended visits to the big house. Especially Jimmy I.

I know of at least one individual (Who Was 25/30 years older than Jimmy) that kicked up to him during the mid to late 70s in the southwest burbs. So he had to be made or at the very least greatly privileged in order to be commanding a crew of guys, several of which were fairly prolific bookmakers & sharks.
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I assume that he was made at some point in the mid to late seventies, although it's possible that he wasn't made until he got through with his first prison stint, which was around the mid-nineties, I believe. He served almost twenty years for his first bust and then six or seven more for the bribery.

Marino was probably made in the seventies.

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Although you never really know, especially when guys like Tocco had to wait until 1983 to get made.

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What did Inendino go away for? Racketeering and extortion?


In regards to the prior conversation from last year, did it occur to Chicago that maybe EP didn't step in because they were ok with Zizzo and Hatch going down?
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Gambling, loan-sharking, hijacking, and check stealing for his first sentence and bribery, tax evasion, money laundering, and theft for his second.

I think that Elmwood Park viewed the Cicero thing as more of an internal struggle. Even at that time, DiFronzo was not going to let himself get involved with a possible murder trial.

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elmwood park and cicero let the heights massacre each other in the 70s/80s

so elmwood park they probably really don't want to deal with cicero's fighting post 2k

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The bosses always gave a lot of leeway when it came to capos running their own territory.

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Originally Posted By: Snakes
The bosses always gave a lot of leeway when it came to capos running their own territory.

Exactly my thinking. If either had affected EP's interests, I'm sure something would have been done about it to exert some influence in the decision. I know people think Sarno was a big shot at the time, but wasn't he already reporting to Jimmy I?

Snakes, any idea if that clip of Jimmy I threatening the guy who owed him money on the infamous wiretap was used in his conviction?
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Yes I believe it was used to convict him, and also to have his bail denied.
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Yeah, I believe Inendino was in jail at the time of both Hatch and Zizzo's killings. He was still on probation from his first bust when he was hit with the second group of charges so he probably would have been denied bail anyway.

What people who doubt Sarno being in charge of Cicero at the time don't realize is that everybody else of consequence in that crew was in jail. Marcello, Inendino, Solly D, Louis Marino, etc. There was literally nobody else left to run it.

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Good point. You also had Bellavia locked up.

I know it's been debated ad nauseam, but I wonder if Jimmy I and Solly running things, with their street pedigree, if they aren't "setting things right on the street" a la Marcello talking about doing so prior to his FS conviction.

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