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How are Mafiosi in Italy so cool about jail? #716135
05/18/13 06:50 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22566231

This is very good article on the matter, sorry if it has been posted already. It's about Peppe Pesce the leader of one of the most powerful Calabrian mafia clans handing himself in. What I don't understand is that how are they so cool with jail? he acted as if it was nothing and also said "He would hurry up" kind of implying he will be getting out sooner than expected. I don't know how good the Italian Judicial system is (I know it's not great) but apparently, so I've heard, once the mobsters are sentenced, some of them get released really early and the public simply doesn't know about it. In essence they end up only serving a smaller percentage of the years they are handed down. Also has anyone taken the place of Oppedisano, if nobody knows a name, is it likely somebody has? Also how to mobsters in Italy live in prison, do they sort of live a "Good life" even in prison?


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Re: How are Mafiosi in Italy so cool about jail? [Re: Antonio] #716137
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This guy is looking happy,like he won a lottery lol


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Re: How are Mafiosi in Italy so cool about jail? [Re: Antonio] #716176
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No doubt, this is a strategic move, as the article speculates as well. No mafioso hands himself in. It's weak and dishonorable.
And believe me, when they're on the run for so many years, they're almost (almost) relieved when caught. Nothing is better than freedom, but it takes it's toll on you after so many years in hiding.

The reason you see them smiling, is because these are the fugitives and their families are always there to "greet" them and wish them well. They are smiling over to their families.

As far as the Italian judicial system, don't forget there is no jury. Judge hands down the conviction and the sentence. Done.

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Re: How are Mafiosi in Italy so cool about jail? [Re: carmela] #716181
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Thanks for clearing that up carmela. As for the Mafiosi themselves living in prisons , ate they treated like ordinary prisoners or do they get their little perks now and then. Also I would like to know, how are italian prisons anyway? Are they rough, peaceful , corrupt ?

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In Italy, the mafia are the number one power in the prisons. In America, the Mafia are near the bottom of the totem poll in most prisons. You have hordes of blacks, Latins, and the Aryan Brotherhood running the prisons. In any federal prison you might have a total of 20-30 mobsters, half of them over 60 years old. Then you have hundreds of blacks and Mexicans, mostly under 60 years old. Prison is no place for whites in America unless you are part of the AB.

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Originally Posted By: Antonio
Thanks for clearing that up carmela. As for the Mafiosi themselves living in prisons , ate they treated like ordinary prisoners or do they get their little perks now and then. Also I would like to know, how are italian prisons anyway? Are they rough, peaceful , corrupt ?


If you're a fugitive, you're already convicted in absentia by the time they catch you. You'll have to do your sentence for whatever crime that was and anything else they can pin on you after catching you.
Most all bosses that are captured are immediately put into what is usually reserved for the worst criminals and mafiosi, which is the 41b regime. This is to insure no pizzini will get out from that boss to others on the outside, although some still manage to.
It's similar to confinement in the US. One hour a day of daylight, one hour only per month for a visitor behind glass only, one hour for lawyer visit, etc.

The ones that aren't under article 41, do get some perks periodically. I know of one that is jailed for life, but 2 years ago, he was allowed to come down from where he's being held in north italy to see his family in sicily for 4 hours. Just because.


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