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Luca's Baby
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06/30/02 12:05 PM
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when Luca told the woman to throw his baby in the furnace because there couldn't be any of that race or whatever did he mean because it was not Italian, Because the mother was a whore, or because Luca didn't want anything that came from his loins to walk free in the world.
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Re: Luca's Baby
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07/03/02 05:35 PM
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I just reread the novel not long ago and he made the midwife throw it in the furnace because it was Irish! It doesn't ACTUALLY state that but I assume it was becase of the "race" comment and the baby's mother was an Irish girl.
"Life is so beautiful."
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Re: Luca's Baby
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08/15/02 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by Scarlett:
I just reread the novel not long ago and he made the midwife throw it in the furnace because it was Irish! The novel explains that the midwife didn't understand what Luca meant by his choice of words, "race" (whether that meant the baby was part Irish, OR if meant the baby's mother was a whore, OR if it meant that it sprang from Luca's own loins). There was no explanation of WHY Luca had the baby killed, other than the race thing. Originally posted by daoke:
i do not know why Italians and Irish hate and look down upon each other  Here, in the New York City area, there is a large number of marriages between Italian and Irish.
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Re: Luca's Baby
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08/20/02 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Turnbull: Originally posted by SC: [b][QUOTE] Here, in the New York City area, there is a large number of marriages between Italian and Irish.  [/b] One minute a scholar, next minute a wiseguy
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Re: Luca's Baby
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08/20/02 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by SC: Here, in the New York City area, there is a large number of marriages between Italian and Irish.I'm not sure how accurate this book is, but The Gangsters by Timothy Jacobs has this to say on Al Capone and Italian/Irish marriges.
...Alphonse met a tall Irish girl named Mae Coughlin. While the Italian and Irish communities as a rule did not smile on one another, it was true that certain circumstances encouraged intermarriage to happen.
Italian boys had no fear of marriage, while Irish boys tended to wait until they were well settled in their occupations. Therefore, marriage anxious Irish girls found an attraction, as did Mae Coughlin, in Italian boys. Alphonse married Mae almost immediately - the ceremony was performed on 18 December 1918.
Seems like a few sweeping generalisations! But I guess his reasoning may be true.
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Re: Luca's Baby
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08/21/02 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by Wiseguy_1872: Originally posted by Turnball
[b]BTW: Guinness Book of Records used to list Ireland as the nation with the oldest average age of marriage for men. There's a lot to be said for Irish wisdom. [/b] I also read that 7% of the Irish barley crop goes towards Guiness. That may have something to do with it.
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Re: Luca's Baby
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I'm going to have to agree with that. If Luca was really touchy about the Irish thing, he probably would have resented Tom and the Don for having an adopted son.
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Excuse me?!