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How did they miss Vito? #709201
04/08/13 12:38 PM
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When Vito was shot at VERY close range, nne shots were fired by the assassins. I know, I counted them yesterday while watching the Godfather (again).
How could they miss four out of nine shots at point blank distance? Is this why they used such overkill to get Sonny, or was that just FFC's homage to Bonnie and Clyde?


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Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: dontomasso] #709252
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DT, as staged, Sonny's murder was purely gratuitous. Recall that the novel's version has him murdered with pistols.

I don't know how many Board members have fired weapons in a combat theater, but from my experience, missing a close target can happen even with an automatic weapon.


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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
When Vito was shot at VERY close range, nne shots were fired by the assassins. I know, I counted them yesterday while watching the Godfather (again).
How could they miss four out of nine shots at point blank distance? Is this why they used such overkill to get Sonny, or was that just FFC's homage to Bonnie and Clyde?


"He's still alive. They hit'em with five shots, and he's still alive!"

Hey! Maybe they were afraid that Fredo would shoot them! whistle

Seriously though, lets not forget that even though he basically was being shot at at point blank range.....he was still a moving target. Looks like five of the last six shots hit him when he was against the car and stopped moving.






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Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: Don Cardi] #709307
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Nice to hear from you, DC! clap

Yes, it's possible to miss at close range, especially if you're nervous and worried about getting away, as those two probably were. Also, as pointed out, Vito was moving, and he was wearing a heavy coat that might have slowed the bullets.


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Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: Don Cardi] #709338
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What i love about this scene is how Fredo instantly starts weeping, When Sonny and Michael each hear the news of Vito being shot they dont cry like Fredo, Interesting how each brother reacts differently

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What i love about this scene is how Fredo instantly starts weeping, When Sonny and Michael each hear the news of Vito being shot they dont cry like Fredo, Interesting how each brother reacts differently


Tom's weeping too.

Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: Danito] #709370
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Like Johnny Fontaine, Fredo cries like a woman


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"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: dontomasso] #709382
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Well to be fair the gunmen were running too. Ever go target-shooting while running? That's why quarterbacks get paid the big bucks, I guess.

Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: GabbyBM] #709383
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These guys are supposedly professional hit men. Five shots out of nine at point blank range is pretty poor.


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"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: dontomasso] #709493
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There were apparantly 20 bullets fired at Joe Masseria of which only 6 struck him, and killed him subsequently. So it's not unusual that 'only' 5 of the 9 bullets fired hit Vito.


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Perhaps most Board members have never fired a weapon. However, we are exposed to TV and film examples where bullets fly hither and yon. Steven Seagal never misses when he fires, does he? On the other hand, there are any number of TV and film characters who seemingly and endlessly fire automatic weapons, but seldom hit any one. There are so many variables associated with hitting targets, up close or not.

Those of you who have had experience with an M16 know that one of those variables that was mitigated by the M16's design was the weapon's kick when a bullet is fired from it. Such kick can significantly distort the bullet's intended path. The stability of the hand grasping the weapon at discharge is a major issue. That's why law enforcement trains its students to stabilize the firearm with two hands.

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Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: Sonny_Black] #709504
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
There were apparantly 20 bullets fired at Joe Masseria of which only 6 struck him, and killed him subsequently. So it's not unusual that 'only' 5 of the 9 bullets fired hit Vito.

Also 6 bullets were fired at Willie Moretti at very close range, and he was only struck by 2. At least a couple of the bullets went wild.

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Let's not forget John Veasey.

Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: Turnbull] #710069
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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Nice to hear from you, DC! clap


Thank you, Turnbull, my most valued friend.

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Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: Don Cardi] #710124
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Nice to hear from you, DC! clap


Thank you, Turnbull, my most valued frien

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DC welcome back. You been hiding out in Sicily?


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"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: dontomasso] #710385
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A year. Longer than that, I think.

Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: dontomasso] #710486
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso

DC welcome back. You been hiding out in Sicily?


I was forced to leave this forum, -- and I had to make arrangements to get back here safely -- cleared of all those false charges.

But I'm a superstitious man -- and if some post is made -- and it should get deleted by another moderator -- or if I should get banned from the general discussion forum -- then I'm going to blame some of the people on these boards. And that, I do not
forgive.

Seriously though, it's been an extremely busy busy winter for me......but it's good to be back!



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Re: How did they miss Vito? [Re: Don Cardi] #710607
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Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
Originally Posted By: dontomasso

DC welcome back. You been hiding out in Sicily?


I was forced to leave this forum, -- and I had to make arrangements to get back here safely -- cleared of all those false charges.

But I'm a superstitious man -- and if some post is made -- and it should get deleted by another moderator -- or if I should get banned from the general discussion forum -- then I'm going to blame some of the people on these boards. And that, I do not
forgive.

Seriously though, it's been an extremely busy busy winter for me......but it's good to be back!



did you get hit by the thunderbolt? Was she blown up in a car?

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"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."


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