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"Shogun" Remake #704976
03/22/13 11:25 AM
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Any "Shogun" fans here? Possibly the best mini-series ever made, and it's getting a remake. Any fans?

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/shogun_getting_remake_5I8DDnUFuihi7NNYLwWb0H


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: pizzaboy] #705007
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Any "Shogun" fans here? Possibly the best mini-series ever made, and it's getting a remake. Any fans?

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/shogun_getting_remake_5I8DDnUFuihi7NNYLwWb0H


Big time fan here PB. Although not nearly as many times as the Godfather, I have watched it many times. I wish they would rerun it in its entirety. I've seen the much edited two hour version. As usual thouhg, I am skeptical about a remake. I hope they keep the Japenese dialogue in Japanese.


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: olivant] #705009
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Well geez, Oli. Spring for the complete DVD for God's sake. If the $30 is an issue I'll be happy to help lol.

http://www.amazon.com/James-Clavells-Shogun-Richard-Chamberlain/dp/B0000A2ZNX


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: olivant] #705020
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Any "Shogun" fans here? Possibly the best mini-series ever made, and it's getting a remake. Any fans?


Big time fan here PB. Although not nearly as many times as the Godfather, I have watched it many times. I wish they would rerun it in its entirety. I've seen the much edited two hour version. As usual thouhg, I am skeptical about a remake.


I, also, am a big time fan. The character, Toranaga, like Vito Corleone, is one of my favorite fictional personalities. I have the DVD set and watched it last around New Year's.

I remember hearing/reading somewhere that Sean Connery was set for the anjin part that went to Richard Camberlin but now, so many years later, it's hard to think of anyone else in that role.


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Agreed, SC. I hope they don't fuck it up with the remake, though.


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I thought Roots was the best mini series ever.


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I vaguely remember watching it as a kid with my parents. They loved it, along with stuff like the THORN BIRDS and NORTH AND SOUTH.

No wonder i was a drunken,teenage delinquent before i was even a teenager!!!! lol lol


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #705241
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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
I vaguely remember watching it as a kid with my parents. They loved it, along with stuff like the THORN BIRDS and NORTH AND SOUTH.

No wonder i was a drunken,teenage delinquent before i was even a teenager!!!! lol lol

Yeah, that Rachel Ward sent an entire generation off the rails lol. But she hasn't aged well.



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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: pizzaboy] #705245
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Good Lord, she hasn't has she??

She has a slight whiff of lesbianism about her in that pic as well. Not that i have anything against lesbians, just ones who look like that whistle tongue


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #705251
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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
Not that i have anything against lesbians

Me neither. God knows I'd be one if I was a woman.


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: pizzaboy] #705252
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Not that i have anything against lesbians

Me neither. God knows I'd be one if I was a woman.


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: pizzaboy] #705275
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It's a shame that the mini-series has gone the way of the dinosaurs. But I guess viewers' attention span just isn't what it used to be.

I do remember people rushing home from work to watch Roots. I also remember all the excitement over Winds of War.


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: olivant] #705294
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Originally Posted By: olivant
It's a shame that the mini-series has gone the way of the dinosaurs. But I guess viewers' attention span just isn't what it used to be.

I do remember people rushing home from work to watch Roots. I also remember all the excitement over Winds of War.


I was in middle school when Roots was aired and it was obviously required watching. It was often one of the leading stories on the national news before and during its airing.

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Winds of War rings a bell as well. Roots as well. Like i said before, my folks used to watch all these shows.


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Originally Posted By: klydon1
I was in middle school when Roots was aired and it was obviously required watching. It was often one of the leading stories on the national news before and during its airing.

I was a senior in high school, Klyd. And you're right, it was huge news at the time. We discussed it in class every day after it aired.

Then a year or so later I remember "The Holocaust" mini-series, which was pretty big news as well.


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Wasn't War and Remembrance the last mini-series?


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Originally Posted By: olivant
Wasn't War and Remembrance the last mini-series?

I think "Lonesome Dove" came after that, Oli. But I could be wrong. Same time frame, though.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Wasn't War and Remembrance the last mini-series?

I think "Lonesome Dove" came after that, Oli. But I could be wrong. Same time frame, though.


Now Lonesome Dove was one i enjoyed, although i seem to remember the sequel being a bit naff.


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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Wasn't War and Remembrance the last mini-series?

I think "Lonesome Dove" came after that, Oli. But I could be wrong. Same time frame, though.


Now Lonesome Dove was one i enjoyed, although i seem to remember the sequel being a bit naff.

Made me want to be a cowboy for about five minutes. I went to the Pelham Bay stables, got on a horse, smelled the shit and blew a hemorrhoid.

I was quickly cured of the silly notion that a Bronx Italian kid should get any closer to a horse than the $50 window at Belmont Park.


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50 bucks on a horse!!!!!

Degenerate gambler you!!! tongue


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Best miniseries was "QBVII". Anthony Hopkins was just amazing as Dr. Adam Kelno, the concentration camp survivor accused of being a Nazi war criminal.


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Re: "Shogun" Remake [Re: Sicilian Babe] #705465
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Perhaps I'm in the process of becoming an old fart, but when I hear the word "remake," more often than not my reaction is, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Recent remakes just don't seem to hold a candle to the originals - or so popular opinion seems to indicate. Remakes of "The Three Musketeers," "The Day the Earth Stood Still," etc., just make me ask, "Why?" Are there no original thoughts or ideas left in Hollywood (and other places)? I see there's also a remake of "Evil Dead" arriving shortly...

I remember watching the original "Shogun" mini-series when it first aired. So did almost everyone else I knew. I just don't think it can be improved on, particularly since everyone now seems to have an attention span of only a couple of hours, maximum. And, I don't think any new actors could erase my memories of Richard Chamberlain and Toshiro Mifune. Sound like I'm prejudiced? Yeah, I guess I am, a bit. But, I must agree that "Shogun" was one of the best mini-series there ever was.

I can't say for certain if I think any one mini-series could be called "the best." I mean, it's all subjective, isn't it? But, as a group, my short list would include:

Shogun
I, Claudius
Roots
(I & II)
Elizabeth R
The Six Wives of Henry VIII
The Adams Chronicles
Danger UXB


Those are the ones I remember best from my younger days. Some of the ones mentioned in earlier posts I haven't seen, sorry to say.


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Originally Posted By: Signor Vitelli

Shogun
I, Claudius
Roots
(I & II)


Still waiting to get to Roots II (after I rewatch Roots) one of these days. Loved I, Claudius and Shogun as well. The others I never heard of...

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Any "Shogun" fans here? Possibly the best mini-series ever made, and it's getting a remake. Any fans?

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/shogun_getting_remake_5I8DDnUFuihi7NNYLwWb0H


Definitely a great serie and partly due to the score by imo the greatest film composer ever, Maurice Jarre. I have the DVD box, which is equally impressive.


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