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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47747
10/09/01 08:53 AM
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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47748
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I also found the Jules-and-Lucy stuff gratuitous and uninteresting. I think Puzo included it because he wanted a way to lead up to describing Lucy's operation. Puzo had a disturbing tendency to belabor erudition he picked up (attest the endless ins and outs of the movie business in "Last Don"). Maybe he read a description of that operation somewhere (or had a wife or girlfriend who had the operation), and felt the need to let all of us know what he knew.
The Lucy/Jules relationship was near-superfluous. On the other hand, it did provide a way to show that the family took care of Lucy even though she was just a goomad. And it gave Michael an opportunity to get off one of his best Don-like lines about loyalty when Jules balks over getting more involved with Michael ("That was a stupid thing to say. You should know that I'd never ask you to do anything you couldn't do. But so what if I did? When you were down, did anyone else lift a finger to help you?", or something like that).


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47749
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I think Puzo had a big fall out with is wife, right? And she went screaming, AAAH! You just don't understand me or women! And he was tryin to make it up to her! I dunno, it's a very guy thing to do, the way it's written, I think it's and outside joke of some sort or I agree with Constanzia, it was probably written and Puzo didn't like it or his contract for writing the book was running out and he had to leave it, it wasn't the best part of the book.


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47750
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You're a 13 year old Underboss, holy shit? This whole book, and the drinking theme between Guiliano and SC is innapropriate.

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47751
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I'm only 16, but that doesn't matter does it? I've seen American Pie, and Scarface, and Goodfellas, and all that too. I'M Writing a GF4 sript, BEAT THAT!

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47752
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I think the book had a large amount o fsexual content but i think puzo did a good job describing the scenes ie: "Sonny caressed her vulva"


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47753
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Originally posted by Ricardo:
This whole book, and the drinking theme between Guiliano and SC is innapropriate.


This post was started about 5 months ago, does it matter?

It's a very worthy post what JaneM mentioned I put my own opinion into it and someone misunderstood what I meant which was of no fault to him. We made up and drinking is a good way to make up. Unless you've drank about 50 pints worth in the last 5 days and lived off random burger vans and McDonalds.

Anyway, chill out Ricardo and have a beer with us....

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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47754
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Originally posted by Ricardo:
This whole book, and the drinking theme between Guiliano and SC is innapropriate.


"The Godfather" by Mario Puzo is innapropriate?? eek


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47755
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i wouldnt say its innapropriate at all, Mario Puzo just including the sex scenes so he can gain some more buys


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47756
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If the movie was CUT to be rated R, what would the book be rated, PG-13, i don't think so. Sorry for bringing up an old topic, but for ME it's new, i came here fist time during Christmas!

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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47757
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im not even gunna lie...i got a boner reading the sonny/lucy stuff eek and showed it to all my friends....but hey im only 15 lol i guess im just a immature kid rolleyes


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47758
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DoN KraYziE:
<strong>im not even gunna lie...i got a boner reading the sonny/lucy stuff eek and showed it to all my friends....but hey im only 15 blush


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47759
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ricardo:
[QB]If the movie was CUT to be rated R, what would the book be rated, PG-13, i don't think so. Sorry for bringing up an old topic, but for ME it's new, i came here fist time during Christmas!

No need to be sorry for bringing up an old topic. It's good to see that happening. But the drinking thing was ages ago and i'd hope it wouldn't bother anyone.

As for drinking anyway. Thats totally your choice i'd never pressure anyone to drink.


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47760
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Originally posted by JaneM:

I first read the novel as a 13 year old schoolgirl, and I remember being profoundly shocked by the novel, the first 'adult' book I had read.
funny, i read the book at 12 and it was also my first "adult" book. the stuff between sonny and lucy (page 28 in my book) was certainly an eye-opener and unfortunately since my parents weren't telling me anything i thought that was the way it always went! wink

the stuff between Jules and Lucy didn't shock me even then, just bored me.

my parents didn't know i read it then.


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47761
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I'm 16, that's what i don't drink (b) Was Puzo racist? In the ealry gf2 script, there's much more references to the N word. Pentangelli, Roth, Clemenza, and others.

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47762
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Originally posted by Ricardo:
I'm 16, that's what i don't drink (b) Was Puzo racist? In the ealry gf2 script, there's much more references to the N word. Pentangelli, Roth, Clemenza, and others.
unfortunately that was the language of the times.
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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47763
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Ok, at least they cut out most of them by the final drafts. Why only black peopleas nurses, even in Godfather 3 there should been Blacks somewhere. Maybe ablack lawyer or a black cop, anything, they lived in New York in the 70's!

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47764
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Originally posted by Ricardo:
I'm 16, that's what i don't drink (b) Was Puzo racist? In the ealry gf2 script, there's much more references to the N word. Pentangelli, Roth, Clemenza, and others.
Age has nothing to do with drinking. Russian kids have been known to drink vodka regularly from the age of 11. But again i'm not pressuring you. Don't give into peer pressure kid.

Puzo isn't racist. Saladbar is right about the langauge of the times. I think he wanted to show his characters being slightly racist. It's quite known the Italians and coloureds weren't the best of freinds during those days.


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47765
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Originally posted by Ricardo:
[b]I'm 16, that's what i don't drink (b) Was Puzo racist? In the ealry gf2 script, there's much more references to the N word. Pentangelli, Roth, Clemenza, and others.
Age has nothing to do with drinking. Russian kids have been known to drink vodka regularly from the age of 11. But again i'm not pressuring you. Don't give into peer pressure kid.

Puzo isn't racist. Saladbar is right about the langauge of the times. I think he wanted to show his characters being slightly racist. It's quite known the Italians and coloureds weren't the best of freinds during those days.[/b]
Ok, thanks, Turi how did you feel about Turi Giuliano in The Sicilian movie? I knew there was hatred between colored and italains, there always has been. I just read in the book, about how Neri caved the pimp's skull in, powerful writing by Puzo!

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47766
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The movie is crap (The Sicilian). I mean Lambert didn't do a bad job but the whole script was terrible. John Turrturo played a very good Pisciotta though. I think i've said all this in the "Other Puzo books" board.


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47767
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Ok, why isn't Michael Corleone in the movie?

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47768
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What do I really feel? Well, being fourteen gives me a half-child half-adult perception in both the novel and the movie. Actually, I've seen the whole trilogy about two to three times, for my cousin has the DVD's. Actually, the reason why I even bothered to watch the movie is that because of the Rugrats In Paris movie by the Rugrats!!! The movie(The Rugrats) started out great and I thought that it would be interesting if I watched the movie (The Godfather). I did, and I felt that I just had to start from the beginning after I watched it because of the emotions and the passion developing in our watcher's minds.
Well, to tell you the truth, it was overwhelming when I read the novel because Mario Puzo clearly had that same passion that Francis Ford Coppola felt when he directed the movie. Did you also know that Francis Ford Coppola tore ou each page of the novel, pasted it in a "border-wrap" fashion, and took notes before he started directing the movie. He knew where the scenes had to stop and start, and that's why the movie was so different from the novel. It was viewed by two different people with the same ideas, and the movie is comprised because of these people who really wanted to express the feelings and the theme of the book, with the reality that binds around it.

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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47769
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Welcome, BestMovieEver! Jeez, quite a lot of insight for a fourteen year-old! It sure shames this 40 year-old college grad!
Anyways, back to the sex thing: I s'pose writers feel sex should be a part of their novels for a variety of reaons: (1) Let's face it, sex SELLS; (2) it's a part of most normal people's lives; and (3) it can sometimes alter the outcome of relationships developed in the book. But I'm really glad FFC left it out of the movies (except, of course, for Appollonia's nipple-less scene!). The movie was classier and better without it. The book? I don't think it really added to nor took from the guts of the novel. But whad do I know? orange


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47770
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I'll take good sex over almost anything else!


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47771
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Hmm, you got the idea to watch Godfather from the movie Rugrats in Paris? EXPLAIN please! That's the most amazing thig i've ever heard. i never heard that Coppola stroy, sounds about right tho. the first two movies there opinions blended together great. But its evident in the GF3 that they were conflicting each other's ideas alot. Not enough attention was for detail. Nameles Dons killed, well if they;re nameless they'e obviously NOT important!

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47772
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I loved the sexual parts, they turned me on, a lot, and Im only 11


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