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Lowest Key family currently. #701103
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Who would be the family that is the most low key?

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I second Nicky. Been that way for decades.

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Yep agreed.

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Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: Lowest Key family currently. [Re: LittleNicky] #701161
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New York-Genovese


Out side of the Apple-Buffalo

Re: Lowest Key family currently. [Re: SnickersMagillicutti] #701245
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Re: Lowest Key family currently. [Re: SnickersMagillicutti] #701250
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hands down genovese...you dont hear dick about these guys...the whole admin is out of jail from what i can tell and still quiet...smart guys

tried to find some books on them and cant find nuttin, especially the new guys


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If you haven't read 5 families that gives good info on the chin

Re: Lowest Key family currently. [Re: SnickersMagillicutti] #701344
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The Genovese Family is obviously the most low key we all know that. But I think people are forgetting the Lucchese's. They are sort of the dark horse right now. The Genovese and Gambino families are the most powerful, but these guys haven't had a major bust since 2009. Ever since Steven Crea took over as boss you haven't heard a peep, I think it's due to him they've been under the radar so well. Not to say their won't be a bust in the next couple years, but for now it's smooth sailing for those guys.


"Don't ever go against the family again. Ever"- Michael Corleone
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I believe the LaRocca family in Pittsburgh is one that is under the radar. They are one of the longest running families in the country. A little hint towards their influence still today is the casino being approved in Pittsburgh. Its amazing how PA went from being totally against casinos to approving it in almost record time. People who are so called "experts" will post and say how the family is dead and this and that, but most likely they are mad they could of never been apart of "our thing".

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Pittsburgh family Is Gone! Has been for over 5 years.

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Ones still operating

Five in NY
New England
DeCavalcante in NJ
Philadelphia
Chicago Outfit

Hanging on a string but still viable

Detroit
The Arm in Buffalo

ALL OTHERS ARE LONG GONE

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They have one active made guy I think Thomas"Sonny"Ciancutti but he's geriatric now so I'd say for sure there totally gone

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Pittsburgh family is far from gone, they just haven't made any news. if they were gone how come in 2000 when sonny was charged with multiple counts of racketeering he was only sentenced house arrest for a few months? They still have multiple connections. They just are very under the radar and aren't flashy like the New York Mob is. Pittsburgh family has strong ties to the chicago outfit.

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on paper it says there is one made guy, they don't flaunt or flash who they are. they work behind the scenes and don't make noise. unlike gotti did and a lot of new york mobsters. the paper and wikipedia can say one thing, but eyes will tell truth.

Re: Lowest Key family currently. [Re: SnickersMagillicutti] #701358
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Oh come on you can't be serious. I mean Chicago fan boys are one thing but Pittsburgh? This isn't the sixties man


"Don't ever go against the family again. Ever"- Michael Corleone
Re: Lowest Key family currently. [Re: doncarlo] #701359
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Originally Posted By: doncarlo
on paper it says there is one made guy, they don't flaunt or flash who they are. they work behind the scenes and don't make noise. unlike gotti did and a lot of new york mobsters. the paper and wikipedia can say one thing, but eyes will tell truth.


the Pittsburgh family couldnt even stand up to the decalvacantes. gotti was a flashy loudmouth but not many others like him in the way of loving being a public figure.never a good choice to show out the way he did.

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what evidence to you have to prove that? I'm not trying to be a smart ass I'm honestly asking. None of us honestly know what goes on. But ill state like i have before. everyone thinks pittsburgh mob is gone because they haven't heard from them in awhile. thats the way its supposed to be, thats the way it used to be. the reason i know they are still up and running is because there is a faction in my hometown. I'm just saying the pittsburgh family has a proud tradition and is still around and recognized.

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i wish i could find you guys this article from the pittsburgh post gazette from 2008. It showed the entire Pittsburgh LCN and underbosses and made men. Very good and intuitive. Ill try to post it for yinz.

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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Oh come on you can't be serious. I mean Chicago fan boys are one thing but Pittsburgh? This isn't the sixties man



VERY TRUE!!!!!

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Originally Posted By: stern49
Ones still operating

Five in NY
New England
DeCavalcante in NJ
Philadelphia
Chicago Outfit

Hanging on a string but still viable

Detroit
The Arm in Buffalo

ALL OTHERS ARE LONG GONE


You can take Buffalo off that list.

Originally Posted By: doncarlo
what evidence to you have to prove that? I'm not trying to be a smart ass I'm honestly asking. None of us honestly know what goes on. But ill state like i have before. everyone thinks pittsburgh mob is gone because they haven't heard from them in awhile. thats the way its supposed to be, thats the way it used to be. the reason i know they are still up and running is because there is a faction in my hometown. I'm just saying the pittsburgh family has a proud tradition and is still around and recognized.


As a viable family, Pittsburgh is gone. You won't find it on any FBI list of remaining mob families in over a decade. And there hasn't really been substantial ongoing activity since the 1990's. There would only be a handful of members still alive, at most, anyway. As we know, NY barred them from making new members years ago. To dismiss all this, and say they're just flying under the radar, could also be used to argue the Denver or Dallas families are still around.

Originally Posted By: doncarlo
i wish i could find you guys this article from the pittsburgh post gazette from 2008. It showed the entire Pittsburgh LCN and underbosses and made men. Very good and intuitive. Ill try to post it for yinz.


If you're talking about the article I think you are, the one from the Pittsburgh Tribune, where John "Duffy" Conley was the main focus, it did show a spread of members and associates but it was over the years and not just current. Many of the guys on shown were dead.

A 2006 Pittsburgh Tribune-Review article, entitled "Burgh's mob ties may sleep with the fishes," said the family had been "dormant" for a decade.


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Re: Lowest Key family currently. [Re: IvyLeague] #701369
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague


As a viable family, Pittsburgh is gone.


Viable family... heck it doesn't even qualify as remnants anymore. Just three made guys left alive, two of whom are rats living in the open and the single non-rat still alive is over 80. When he dies the family will be gone gone, like Dallas.

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Originally Posted By: Ivan
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague


As a viable family, Pittsburgh is gone.


Viable family... heck it doesn't even qualify as remnants anymore. Just three made guys left alive, two of whom are rats living in the open and the single non-rat still alive is over 80. When he dies the family will be gone gone, like Dallas.


Reason why he hasn't laid out a plan to create new members for Pittsburgh?

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Sonny Ciancutti still has a few guys kicking up some gambling proceeds to him in and around new kensington, but thats it. apparantly he spends alot of time just shooting the shit at local racetracks like any normal grandpa would. to even try to imply that there is anything left going on there says it all. viable family arguments aside, people newer to the OC world might be forgiven for saying the same about places like buffalo and KC, because there is still some residual activity going on in those areas, but to claim the same about pittsburg is beyond silly.


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i dont believe its beyond silly at all, pittsburgh was/has been known to be the quiet family and make the least amount of noise. other than the 1990's where all families were getting cracked down on, pittsburgh has had no public incidents of things happening or major members getting busted. Sonny was in 2000 but received less than a slap on the wrist because he is connected to every official basically in pittsburgh because western pa has one of the if not the highest italian populations. The city of new castle alone per capita has the highest amount of italian descendants living in the city.

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Originally Posted By: doncarlo
i dont believe its beyond silly at all, pittsburgh was/has been known to be the quiet family and make the least amount of noise. other than the 1990's where all families were getting cracked down on, pittsburgh has had no public incidents of things happening or major members getting busted. Sonny was in 2000 but received less than a slap on the wrist because he is connected to every official basically in pittsburgh because western pa has one of the if not the highest italian populations. The city of new castle alone per capita has the highest amount of italian descendants living in the city.

just for my own piece of mind, can you list all of the active made guys in and around pittsburg, as well as the activities that they are involved in, thanks.


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Originally Posted By: meffaboston
If you haven't read 5 families that gives good info on the chin



i read it, best ive found on them


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Originally Posted By: doncarlo
i dont believe its beyond silly at all, pittsburgh was/has been known to be the quiet family and make the least amount of noise. other than the 1990's where all families were getting cracked down on, pittsburgh has had no public incidents of things happening or major members getting busted. Sonny was in 2000 but received less than a slap on the wrist because he is connected to every official basically in pittsburgh because western pa has one of the if not the highest italian populations. The city of new castle alone per capita has the highest amount of italian descendants living in the city.


What did the Pittsburgh family in, like other families around the country, was general attrition. Even more so then indictments. There wasn't much of a recruiting pool to make new guys. And even if there was, the family stopped making new members after a certain point. Almost everybody has died off. People trying to argue the continued existence of other families have done the same thing you have - cited the Italian population in the area. But part a key part of the attrition factor is Italian-Americans becoming part of mainstream society, which includes seeking opportunities in the legitimate world rather than the LCN. The question isn't, "How many Italians are still around?" But "How many Italians are still around that want to be in the mob?" In Pittsburgh, not too many from what I can tell.

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just for my own piece of mind, can you list all of the active made guys in and around pittsburg, as well as the activities that they are involved in, thanks.


The only one I'm aware of is Thomas "Sonny" Ciancutti, who's in his late 70's. Other guys I've seen listed as both made or just associates are Bobby Ianelli, Anthony Imburgia, and Mauro Matone.


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