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Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim #697946
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Here's Zerilli's latest interview:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Secret-meetings-with-aging-mobster-advance-Hoffa-investigation/-/1719418/18587856/-/8o935xz/-/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+clickondetroit%2Flocal+(ClickOnDetroit.com+-+Local+News)

Guess they're waiting for the ground to thaw out before the dig. Now, if they don't find Hoffa based on Zerilli's own words, than it's absolutely safe to say they never will.

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #697952
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Absolutely fascinating. You know how the mob works though...someone could have come and moved the body 20 years ago...or last week.

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #697962
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If Hoffa's body is found there, couldn't Tocco still be held criminally liable for this? Zerilli's met with the feds three times now...I wonder how much he's giving to them. So far, the only name we know he's given is Tony Giacalone, who has been dead for over a decade.

Zerilli's old man and the Giacalone brothers must be rolling over in their graves right now.

The biggest question I have is: why would they (allegedly) bury him on Tocco's own property?

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #697963
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I guess so. Tocco's 85. My guess would be that the "Partenership" is in such a pathetic state that Zerrelli just doesn't give a f##k.

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #697967
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True. But then again, these days, do ANY rats really worry about their safety?

And when it comes to Detroit, Nove Tocco would be the perfect example.

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #697978
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Ol' Zerilli just needs some money and since he was shelved, he wants to get even. And if he is right, and Hoffa's, or another's, body is found out there, it will make a pretty big splash.


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Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #698015
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Maybe all of the above... And no, I don't think rats worry about their safety.

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #698039
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Clearly, Z needs the money - he said so when this story broke. He is so old, he doesn't care about any repercussions. Interestingly, he did not admit membership in the "mafia".

I hope they find Hoffa to put an end to this mystery. Does anyone doubt it was Tony Giacalone and Tocco? These names have been largely the leading candidates for years.

I would be curious to know what Tony Pro's involvement was. I have read and heard that he wanted Hoffa dead.


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Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #698098
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From what I've heard there isn't much doubt it was Tony Pro and I've also heard Sheerin's book is pretty credible.

Apparently they did not want Hoffa to run for president of the Teamsters again because they had a good thing going with Frank Fritzsimmons running it, but Hoffa was going to run again anyway.

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Originally Posted By: TonyG
Interestingly, he did not admit membership in the "mafia".


Ofcourse he won't.

I hope they have kept an eye on that spot ever since Zerilii's statements became public, as to make sure the remains wouldn't be moved, in case it's there...


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Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #698103
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I was wondering the same thing. All I can think is everyone involved is probably dead.

Would be nice to see Chuckie O'Brien go down if he really had anything to do with it, as the family suspects he does.

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #698142
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Maybe they just wanna plant tomatoes !!! lol



An old Italian man lived alone in the country. It was Spring and he wanted to dig his tomato garden, as he had done every year, but it was very hard work for the aging man as the ground was hard. His only son, Vincent, who used to help him, was currently in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament:

Dear Vincent,
I am feeling pretty bad because it looks like I won't be able to plant my tomato garden this year. I'm just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. If only you were here my troubles would be over. I know you would dig the plot for me.

Love Dad

A few days later he received a letter from his son:

Dear Dad,
Not for nothing, but don't dig up that garden. That's where I buried the BODIES.
Love Vinnie

At 4 a.m. the next morning, FBI agents and local police arrived at the old man's house and dug up the entire area. However, they didn't find any bodies, so they apologized to the old man and left.

That same day the old man received another letter from his son.

Dear Dad,
Go ahead and plant the tomatoes now. That's the best I could do under the circumstances.
Love Vinnie

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #698180
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Hahhahahahaha that is freakn sweet.love it


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I hope they find him for the family's sake. A lot of people don't like Hoffa Jr. because they think he's a blowhard and that he was integral in throwing the wiseguys out of the Teamsters. But I disageee. By the time he came on board as the General President, the horse was already out of the barn. I get the feeling that he would have played ball with the mob if he had to.

Slightly off topic, I met Jr. once when I was a business agent for Local 813. He came by the old office on Park Avenue South. He struck me as a genuinely decent guy who really cared about the rank and file workers.


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Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: Sonny_Black] #698199
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
I hope they have kept an eye on that spot ever since Zerilii's statements became public, as to make sure the remains wouldn't be moved, in case it's there...


I bet the Feds have been watching it. It would be funny for them to bust some 75 year old out there with a shovel and a partially dug hole(s). If I were on surveillance and I saw someone head out there with a shovel, I would let them dig a while before I made a move. I hate digging holes.

I have heard that guys used to plant a tree on top of their corpse hole. That way in 5-10 years there is an established root system obfuscating corpse recovery.


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Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: MacombGuy] #698245
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From what I've read this book pretty much solves the whole Hoffa thing.

http://www.amazon.com/Heard-You-Paint-Houses-Teamsters/dp/1586420895

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: tommykarate] #698258
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Originally Posted By: tommykarate
Hahhahahahaha that is freakn sweet.love it
grin

Re: Search for Hoffa imminent based on Zerilli's claim [Re: jonnynonos] #698273
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Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
I was wondering the same thing. All I can think is everyone involved is probably dead.


There's two people who are widely suspected of being involved that are still around: Jack Tocco, who was the acting boss of Detroit when the hit went down, and Tommy Andretta, who helped with clean-up at the scene of the hit.

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Would be nice to see Chuckie O'Brien go down if he really had anything to do with it, as the family suspects he does.


From what I gather he wasn't really involved with the murder conspiracy.

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I don't know why, but Zerilli's new photo page made me laugh:

http://www.hoffafound.com/autographed-photos/

Still no word on the dig. Not sure what the hell they're waiting for, really.

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
A lot of people don't like Hoffa Jr. because they think he's a blowhard and that he was integral in throwing the wiseguys out of the Teamsters.

Really???? So these people think he would be a decent guy if he cooperated with the mafia and hate him because he didn't? I can only imagine what these people do for a living.


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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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might just go to these fields in northern Oakland county do some digging and claim a lot of fame for finding Hoffa might even become a news reporter like in Bruce almighty lol

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was that today that they were digging? It looked like it.

Barn, concrete slab, sounds about right.


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was that today that they were digging? It looked like it.


Yes.


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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
A lot of people don't like Hoffa Jr. because they think he's a blowhard and that he was integral in throwing the wiseguys out of the Teamsters.

Really???? So these people think he would be a decent guy if he cooperated with the mafia and hate him because he didn't? I can only imagine what these people do for a living.


Union politics are very different than you would think

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what a story if true, after all these years..


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So let's say Hoffa's body is found. Now what? There will be no evidence tying anyone to the death, no traceable firearms in the hole,no fingerprints on the body,no nothing.What we will find out, after spending God knows how much time and effort,is what everyone with a pulse has known for decades.Hoffa is not only merely dead,he's really most sincerely dead.
Give me $100,000 and I'll give you an exclusive. Ready? HE'S DEAD! THE MOB DID IT! Does it really matter where he's dead?

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Originally Posted By: Lou_Para
So let's say Hoffa's body is found. Now what? There will be no evidence tying anyone to the death, no traceable firearms in the hole,no fingerprints on the body,no nothing.What we will find out, after spending God knows how much time and effort,is what everyone with a pulse has known for decades.Hoffa is not only merely dead,he's really most sincerely dead.
Give me $100,000 and I'll give you an exclusive. Ready? HE'S DEAD! THE MOB DID IT! Does it really matter where he's dead?


Haha I agree he's fucking dead and they make a big deal about the shit people are sick of hearing about it. It's shit that belongs in those trashy tabloids.


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What does Detroit really have to offer haha I hope they got some sort of confirmation from that old man it's legit other wise it's just like pulling a prank on the feds lol


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