You think the Armeni hit and this one on Del Balso are related? It has been just over two weeks since Vince was hit.

Vic cotroni has been dead since 1984.
There hasn't been an influential cotroni in MTL since the death of Frank cotroni in 2004.
As per the conflicts in the past 17 years it will take time to figure out who is fighting whom. What is clear from reading the source book about scoppa is that the MTL mafia and OC groups in general are extremely cut throat and loyalties from the past mean nothing.
Armeni and del balso have no connection that I know of for working together.
And can think of no reason why they would be at odds.
As another post stated maybe it was the nuns.

The conflicts in MTL cannot be so easily explained as a Sicilian vs Calabrian war.
I don't even know what part of Italy del balsos family hails from and in this context it doesn't matter. He's a prominent criminal in a hyper criminal city I'm surprised more it took this long for someone to take a pot shot at him.

Del Balso is probably from the southern region of Molise

The slaughter of drug traffickers in Canada and the criminal balance between Calabria, Toronto and Montrèal
Vincenzo Armeni, coca broker originally from Ardore, killed on 25 October. Seven traffickers killed in three and a half years

https://www.corrieredellacalabria.i...nali-tra-la-calabria-toronto-e-montreal/

Ex-tueur à gages devenu collaborateur | Des avocats se sont manifestés pour représenter Frédérick Silva
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...tes-pour-representer-frederick-silva.php

Meurtre dans un restaurant à Laval
Deux autres suspects arrêtés en Ontario
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...x-autres-suspects-arretes-en-ontario.php

Re: Giovanni Presta Jr., a getaway driver in the murder by Frédérick Silva of Sébastien Beauchamp, found guilty of murder

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ring-hells-angel-associate-in-st-leonard
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...amp/giovanni-presta-declare-coupable.php
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...n-tueur-a-gages-ecope-de-la-prison-a-vie


Re: Arrest made in the attempted murder of Davide Barberio
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...er-une-etoile-montante-du-crime-organise
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...barberio/un-suspect-arrete-et-accuse.php

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Police make arrest in shooting of alleged Montreal Mafia member
Gahens Lee Souverain, 23, has been charged with attempted murder in the Laval shooting last year of Davide Barberio.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/police-make-arrest-in-shooting-of-alleged-montreal-mafia-member

Canada lovely country

Nicola Spagnolo coupable de voies de faits graves
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...lo-coupable-de-voies-de-faits-graves.php

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Man with alleged ties to Montreal Mafia convicted of aggravated assault
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...al-mafia-convicted-of-aggravated-assault

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Un proche de la mafia déclaré coupable
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/12/05/un-proche-de-la-mafia-declare-coupable

L’avocat d'Alexandre Bissonnette défendra l’ex-tueur à gages Frédérick Silva
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-l-ex-tueur-a-gages-frederick-silva.php

Spagnolo on his way to Boho Bar. The victim described his assailant as "un vieux crisse de riche" (rich old man)

https://blogger.googleusercontent.c...00/49e409a0909e3880be8bc2a247c6f49e.webp

Just catching up reading these and had a few notes.



When the court reporters were asked about it they said capo was the term the witness used in court. Not a translation issue. Not that that helps understand any of it.



There was plenty of evidence he had links to Montreal prior to arriving. His family has lived there off and on again over the years and it's known that Montagna served as a messenger to the Montreal before and after Gerlando Sciascia was killed. There was even recordings between Massino and Basciano discussing Montagna going to Montreal in 2005.




This was carried out by Dominic Scarfo not the paid informant. It was said Scarfo was the shooter and the getaway driver was a accomplice who couldn't be named most likely Massari



If I had to put money on it I'd wager it's two separate unrelated events and Del Balso's shooting either came from the Sollecito or the bikers and I'd guess it's over debts he owes. It would explain his sudden and idiotic attempt to retrieve years old donated jewellery worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and the extortion of 5k a week.



I can't stress this enough!! Theres been those of Sicilian and Calabrese descent on both sides in all of these squabbles and the ndrangheta has never been directly linked to any of it.

I remember a a recording between Francesco and his father talking about these Calabrese involved in a legal dispute with the Cammalleri and Francesco asked his father if these Calabrese were their paesans.

Wasn't Francesco Del Baso the one who was in the news for gambling away $8 million in casinos over a few years, and yet you're saying he was broke before his murder?

He wasn't murdered. I'm suggesting he may have debts as a theory to explain his sudden extortion attempt of a church and then his assassination attempt months later. Him gambling 8 million at the casino of Montreal was over 20 years ago between 1996-2004. I wouldn't assume anything about his wealth several decades later. Don't forget from 2006-2019 he spent most of that time in prison.

Oh, so many have been bumped off over there it's hard to keep track of them all.

The Montreal Mafia Murders: Blood, Gore, Cannolis, and Hockey Bags
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/01/the-montreal-mafia-murders

something to add about del balso's gambling. it was done to launder money through casino de mtl. this a very common form used across the world by criminals. using smurfs to also gamble away some money then cash out the rest as legit "winnings/losses". the asian criminal groups operating in vancouver area have perfected this method. the book wilfull blindness by sam cooper explains this money laundering technique in great detail in book.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...pas-vouloir-respecter-ses-conditions.php

nothing to do with wars but a good/bad example of canadas pathetic justice system. a convicted criminal giving the big middle finger to parole board and challenging them on their attempts at restrictions. nothing less would be expected from an HA lawyer i guess.

It is true that Chinese organized crime doesn't get the same amount of scrutiny as the Italians. I would love to see that change.

out in vancouver and the markham/toronto area they in no way face the same scrutiny. the chinese groups especially mostly because they are not necessarily just criminals. the major chinese criminals are similar to russian criminals of the 1980's and 1990's. the chinese are a mix of criminal,member of the intelligence community,former police or army with connections to communist party and in some cases political parties in canada. a little off topic for this thread i know but the chinese ability to infiltrate levels of power in canada is far greater than the mafias.

are there indictments that proof chinese criminal groups are linked with canadian politicians? I read that minister alfonso gagliano was a bonanno member

But Vito, as you said, those Chinese you mention are not just straight up gangsters from the streets, at least not gangsters in the way that we know. They are former police, intelligence agents, or army these guys are or were an ACTUAL part of the Establishment, making infiltration far easier. Most Mafiosi dropped out of 3rd grade, were never cops or spies or military officers so the fact that they were/are able to achieve what they achieved is even more extraordinary in my opinion.

there is also fear by canadian media of offending anyone or anything to do with china.

Most Western countries have cute laws compared to those of the usa.
The penal system in the USA is more private.

Canada, France, England have not so harsh laws compared to the US.
Sure you got criminals in Canada that will get Life. But the canadian penal system is more about rehabilitation than punishment. And its the same case for many western countries.

I guess we have many people in the forum from Italy. How is the justice system in Italy compared to the US ? Or even Canada, France or other western countries ?

in italy there is the crime of mafia-type association that is like the RICO and you also have the 41bis that is like the max security prison, hard when it comes to mafia-type groups

Sure, America is tough on organized crime, only because they don't want any competition, nothing to do with morality. But that being said, does that make America any safer or better or more peaceful than those other countries you mentioned? That would be a big fat NO! With or without the mob, it's still the same old shitty place.

You ever notice the government only started going after the mob once it started earning serious money through stuff like Unions and stuff the government wants to tax? If gangs did that you would see tons of indictments coming forward on them and tougher laws.