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Re: Carlo's benefit
[Re: Lilo]
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02/08/13 09:36 AM
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I think Carlo saw very early on that he was never going to play a big role in the family business. My guess is he only married Connie for the money and the position, and when he saw heas only going to get a "living" and not be a part of running things, he went back towhatever small time hoods he hung with befoe the marriage and let the word get out to Barzini or Tatt that he would spy on the Corleones for extra chas and some of Tatts women. From there, especially after Sonny beat him up and told him he would kill him if he ever touch onnie again, it was no big deal for Carlo to betray the family and set Sonny up. God knows what Barzini promised him --- it would not have mattered--- had Barzini won the war he would have killed Carlo as sure as he would have killed Tessio. After the scene where Michael falsely announces Carlo is going to be his top man in Vegas, you can see Carlo smirk as if he has really pulled it all off. You can also see this seemingly bad decision ruffles Tom, Clemenza and Tessio.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Carlo's benefit
[Re: Danito]
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02/09/13 11:25 AM
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Carlo never seemed like a smart guy; he probably figured there was no way he'd ever be found out. I guess he was promised a cut after Barzini took over the Corleones (similar to what was promised to Tessio, I'll wager), but as stated above I guarantee Barzini would have had him killed if he won.
Wayne
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Re: Carlo's benefit
[Re: Turnbull]
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02/18/13 11:16 PM
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Does anyone know the timeline for how many years between Sonny's and Carlo's deaths?
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Re: Carlo's benefit
[Re: GabbyBM]
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02/19/13 11:35 AM
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I would think that Carlo might have seen something more for himself in the Corleone Family. With Sonny gone, Fredo in Nevada and Michael in Sicily, Carlo may have imagined that Vito, being all out of sons, might come to depend on his Son-in-Law to pick up some of the slack. Well he prpbably did see something for himself, because Michael played him based on those expectations. He said Carlo was going to be his top man in Vegas after the family made the move. This allowed Carlo to think he had pulled off the set up of Sonny and would rise in the Corleone family. Of course that was a case of Michael "keeping his enemies closer."
Last edited by dontomasso; 02/19/13 11:36 AM.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Carlo's benefit
[Re: olivant]
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02/19/13 02:12 PM
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Does anyone know the timeline for how many years between Sonny's and Carlo's deaths? Sonny's murdered in '46; Carlo in '50 or '51. This is one of those timeline questions that are obfuscated by sloppy writing and inconsistencies between movies. Carlo was murdered on the day that Michael settled all disputes, aka "The Great Massacre." If you accept the GF timeline, Carlo was whacked with the others in 1955. If you accept the Senate committee chairman's question to Michael in GFII, it's 1950. I believe Sonny was whacked in 1946. See timeline here: http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post580389
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Re: Carlo's benefit
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02/21/13 01:21 PM
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dontomasso
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Does anyone know the timeline for how many years between Sonny's and Carlo's deaths? Sonny's murdered in '46; Carlo in '50 or '51. This is one of those timeline questions that are obfuscated by sloppy writing and inconsistencies between movies. Carlo was murdered on the day that Michael settled all disputes, aka "The Great Massacre." If you accept the GF timeline, Carlo was whacked with the others in 1955. If you accept the Senate committee chairman's question to Michael in GFII, it's 1950. I believe Sonny was whacked in 1946. See timeline here: http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post580389 Actually it is even more confusing. Whether four or nine years go by between Sonny's murder and Carlo's there's a huge mistake because when Carlo beats Connie to set Sonny up she is pregnant with the child who will become Michael Rizzi, whose Baptism Michael attends. As we know all the heads of the families are killled during the baptism and Carlo is dispatched to the Mall and killed right after it. The baby (who btw was played by Sofia Coppola) was an infant, not a four year old or a ten year old.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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