Curious how it works when wise guys are in trial and or in jail - who makes collections on street money or weekly interest on loans etc. Philly guys have been on trial or away for 2 years now which looks to be winding down this week - hopefully. I'm sure there are others to stay on top of gamblers and the loanshark money but records / calls - all pretty risky I would say

others guys in the crew

Gene Gotti has a ton of money still on the street

Everyone keeps records... The feds never pinch every agent in a book anyways. Some1 just picks up where u left off. Same goes for Shy i assume.....

After over 20 years in prison, it is most likely gone. Were you referring to loan-sharking money?

Would think that Stevie Mazzone and Ligambis brother probably organized everything while these guys are on trial or in jail.

Money on the street is loansharking money.......

Probably more so, Skin. Shy money is more "real" to them because it was theirs to begin with. I mean, gambling money is real, too. But you know how that goes: A book almost always has almost as much money on paper as he has in the drawer. Generally speaking, shylocks are not as patient.

Oh yea... Especially after last night

I read somewhere he had millions on the street and it was being maintained by some Gotti loyalists. That was years ago but I'm sure it has been taken over by someone.

When is he due out anyway..?? Isn't it like 2016..?

2018 http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderSer...p;x=65&y=16

Thanks, 2018, 5 more years...

He'll be in his 70s at that point - not sure how much power he has or will have anymore at that point

^ he was made before John. Hes got some juice. But the Corozzos prob hate him.

Gene should of just taken a plea deal and he would of done maybe 12 to 15 years. Similar to the deal John Gambino took and he admitted to selling over a thousand pounds of heroin on top of many other serious charges including murder and racketeering.

These guys get hammered at sentencing. Unless your positive you can beat the case in court it's just smarter to take a plea deal.

They had Gene and Johnny Carnig dead to rights. They didn't offer them a plea deal. If they would've, those guys would've turned it down. They were real men of honor. Some of the last "men" to come out of my old neighborhood.

Thank you, I'm still learning.

Just a sidenote really, but it looks like Gene and John didn´t always see eye to eye on things. Gene was caught on wiretap complaining about John having more confidence in Angelo Ruggiero than in him. Perhaps a slew of jealousy because Angelo was closer to John? In the wiretap, Gene complains about being put in a "doghouse"...

From Auburn Citizen, Dec 6, 1986.

Didn't John tell Gene not to cop that plea? I think I read that somewhere. If that's the case you do what the boss tells you and that's that. Not much choice really.

^^ yeah, he made everyone take there cases to trial... I believe i woulda gone with the Cherry Hill brothers on that one haha

No problem my man

Yeah people have made an art out of the plea deals.. Gotti didn't let anyone take pleas I'm sure gene is not to thrilled about that now he would have already been home an I'm sure hell have a little pull on the streets Luke someone said he was made before john an he didn't rat so that's got to count for somethin

Lol, yeah

That's true, but I have to tell you that Tony Megale defied a direct order from Gotti back in '89 and not only took a plea, but he admitted to being a member of a "criminal organization" as part of that plea (although I don't think he specifically had to name the Gambinos).

Gotti went nuts, but a few months into Megale's sentence Gotti was arrested in his final case. He had bigger problems than Megale at that point. And Megale went on to become underboss after John died. So there you go.

I'm just saying, shit happens in that life that you just can't count on, and defying a boss doesn't always get you killed. But generally speaking, it ain't too healthy a decision .

I didn't now that good info pizza,,but I'm sure Gotti wanted him dead.. you could say he was one of the last real men but I feel he set la cosa nostra back very far

His own brother is still rotting away in the can what an asshole

No doubt the prosecutors were out for Gotti blood at the time and they couldn't get John so they made do with his brother Gene.

The comparison i made to John Gambino's case was that after Gambino's first mistrial both sides agreed it was in their interest to make a plea deal and Gambino and his brother got what i think is a pretty good deal if you read all the charges they were hit with. 15 years for running a huge international heroin network where they admitted to selling over 1,000 pounds of heroin, first degree murder, racketeering, gambling, loan sharking, jury tampering and the list goes on and on. So 15 years for all that is a good deal in my opinion. If Gambino was found guilty of all those charges after a trial he would of gotten some insane amount of time (easily 50+ years) at sentencing and would of died in prison. Instead he did his 15 and is out with his family (both of them).

If my memory is correct Gene Gotti had 2 mistrials before he was finally convicted the third time. I have a hunch he could of worked himself a pretty good deal before that third trial if he wanted to. I don't know if he was offered a deal or not, but i think his lawyer could of made it happen if he wanted it. In my opinion he could of made a deal to do 10 to 15 years right before the start of that 3rd trial, but he listened to his brothers orders, fought it and got 45 or 50 years instead. If he knew the feds had him "dead to rights" as another poster here put it then personally i think it would of been the smart move. You can only get to the jury so many times. I think the prosecutors after 2 mistrials would of been open to it. But maybe Gene really thought he could beat the case, who knows.

As the song the Gambler goes.... "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em"

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