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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Revis_Knicks] #728484
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If you believe Russo's book, and it's pretty well sourced, it's hard to believe that any other family was as powerful as Chicao at its peak. We've had this discussion on here before. They dominated the city with corruption; you are talking about dozens upon dozens if not hundres of corrupt cops, there was at least one Alderman who was a made member of the Outfit and far more than that who were their patsies, there were countless politicians in their pocket. They controlled an absurd number of unions and their tentacles stretched to arguably dominate Vegas, Hollywood, the jukebox industry as well as, as pointed out above, a fair amount of international ventures in other countries.

It's also hard not to believe that they were at some level involved in the election of Kennedy and collaborated wth the CIA on things like the Bay of Pigs and asassination attempts on Castro.

This is not even mentioning the army of, what, thousands or tens of thousands under Capone? (It was probably a numberically superior but not as viciously subervsive a mob.)

It's not really bragging rights; Chicago's corruption is somewhat embarrassing. But it makes sense that it was easier than in other places, as it was pretty much a Wild West town in the early part of the 20th century.

This is almost like a P4P boxing debate; you'll never get a srtraight answer but in terms of scope of power I'm yet to hear a convincing argument that any organization rivaled the Outfit under Ricca/Arcaddo/Giancana/Humphries.

Obviously when it comes to today, I am probably one of those posters who would peg it as being borderline defunct.

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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: kwh1968] #728485
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Originally Posted By: kwh1968
The scope of the influence in central Mexico, Iran and Lebanon is staggering. As I posted before since 1990 the Outfit no longer compares to any of the families in New York as their influence has been greatly diminished, however in their glory day they were more diverse than GE


Influence in Lebanon and Iran?

What 'influence' did the outfit have may I ask?


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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Chicago] #728488
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Did Giancana and his daughter reconcile before his murder? I remember reading about his surgery (Dr. Michael DeBakey) and refusing to allow one of his daughters to see him because she had given up custody or parental rights during a divorce.

Giancana would only allow a few people to see him. I believe you're familiar with one of those individuals.

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: GaryMartin] #728493
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No, they did not really reconcile, that's why she's still miserable to deal with today. She is harder than nails.

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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: jonnynonos] #728527
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Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
If you believe Russo's book, and it's pretty well sourced, it's hard to believe that any other family was as powerful as Chicao at its peak. We've had this discussion on here before. They dominated the city with corruption; you are talking about dozens upon dozens if not hundres of corrupt cops, there was at least one Alderman who was a made member of the Outfit and far more than that who were their patsies, there were countless politicians in their pocket. They controlled an absurd number of unions and their tentacles stretched to arguably dominate Vegas, Hollywood, the jukebox industry as well as, as pointed out above, a fair amount of international ventures in other countries.

It's also hard not to believe that they were at some level involved in the election of Kennedy and collaborated wth the CIA on things like the Bay of Pigs and asassination attempts on Castro.

This is not even mentioning the army of, what, thousands or tens of thousands under Capone? (It was probably a numberically superior but not as viciously subervsive a mob.)

It's not really bragging rights; Chicago's corruption is somewhat embarrassing. But it makes sense that it was easier than in other places, as it was pretty much a Wild West town in the early part of the 20th century.

This is almost like a P4P boxing debate; you'll never get a srtraight answer but in terms of scope of power I'm yet to hear a convincing argument that any organization rivaled the Outfit under Ricca/Arcaddo/Giancana/Humphries.

Obviously when it comes to today, I am probably one of those posters who would peg it as being borderline defunct.


I'd argue guys like Frank Costello and Tommy Lucchese had as much political clout as anyone in Chicago ever did. New Jersey has always been just as corrupt as Illinois, and the Genovese family were the main benefactors there. People also forget that up through much of the 1960's, police corruption was widespread in NYC, with many departments on the pad.

Before the families outside the Midwest started selling their interests in the Las Vegas casinos, the Genovese family's presence there was second only to Chicago. They also had interests in Havana before Castro, as well as in Florida and Louisiana. But the casinos in any place were never the routine moneymakers that numbers and sports betting were; and nobody was bigger in those rackets than the Genovese.

I'd argue the Genovese family has always been the most powerful and diversified in terms of labor unions and legitimate industries. The ILA, the Teamsters, the Carpenters, the Mason Tenders, Fulton Fish Market, Javits Center, garbage hauling throughout the tri-state area, trucking, construction, the entertainment business, vending, the garment center, Times Square adult businesses, restaurants and nightclubs, food wholesaling, etc.

Lastly, the Genovese family had the advantage of operating from the mob's "ground zero" - New York - and represented several of the families east of Chicago on the Commission. And the east coast was always more important than anything out west.


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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Revis_Knicks] #728555
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Also, the Genoveses were running casinos in Europe just as the Outfit did in the Middle East.

And the Gambino family had set up a huge transatlantic drug network between the US and Sicily during the 1970s that generated tremendous profits. The Outfit itself was allegedly almost not involved in narcotics.


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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: IvyLeague] #728563
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
If you believe Russo's book, and it's pretty well sourced, it's hard to believe that any other family was as powerful as Chicao at its peak. We've had this discussion on here before. They dominated the city with corruption; you are talking about dozens upon dozens if not hundres of corrupt cops, there was at least one Alderman who was a made member of the Outfit and far more than that who were their patsies, there were countless politicians in their pocket. They controlled an absurd number of unions and their tentacles stretched to arguably dominate Vegas, Hollywood, the jukebox industry as well as, as pointed out above, a fair amount of international ventures in other countries.

It's also hard not to believe that they were at some level involved in the election of Kennedy and collaborated wth the CIA on things like the Bay of Pigs and asassination attempts on Castro.

This is not even mentioning the army of, what, thousands or tens of thousands under Capone? (It was probably a numberically superior but not as viciously subervsive a mob.)

It's not really bragging rights; Chicago's corruption is somewhat embarrassing. But it makes sense that it was easier than in other places, as it was pretty much a Wild West town in the early part of the 20th century.

This is almost like a P4P boxing debate; you'll never get a srtraight answer but in terms of scope of power I'm yet to hear a convincing argument that any organization rivaled the Outfit under Ricca/Arcaddo/Giancana/Humphries.

Obviously when it comes to today, I am probably one of those posters who would peg it as being borderline defunct.


I'd argue guys like Frank Costello and Tommy Lucchese had as much political clout as anyone in Chicago ever did. New Jersey has always been just as corrupt as Illinois, and the Genovese family were the main benefactors there. People also forget that up through much of the 1960's, police corruption was widespread in NYC, with many departments on the pad.

Before the families outside the Midwest started selling their interests in the Las Vegas casinos, the Genovese family's presence there was second only to Chicago. They also had interests in Havana before Castro, as well as in Florida and Louisiana. But the casinos in any place were never the routine moneymakers that numbers and sports betting were; and nobody was bigger in those rackets than the Genovese.

I'd argue the Genovese family has always been the most powerful and diversified in terms of labor unions and legitimate industries. The ILA, the Teamsters, the Carpenters, the Mason Tenders, Fulton Fish Market, Javits Center, garbage hauling throughout the tri-state area, trucking, construction, the entertainment business, vending, the garment center, Times Square adult businesses, restaurants and nightclubs, food wholesaling, etc.

Lastly, the Genovese family had the advantage of operating from the mob's "ground zero" - New York - and represented several of the families east of Chicago on the Commission. And the east coast was always more important than anything out west.



Don't forget that Chicago had Los Angeles as well. All of the major movie studios and labor unions were controlled by the Outfit with some NY help until the 1980s. Frank Buccieri ran things out in California. Underneath him were Vito Spillone, who had a small crew in LA and all the Supermob guys (Korshak, etc.).

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: IvyLeague] #728567
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
If you believe Russo's book, and it's pretty well sourced, it's hard to believe that any other family was as powerful as Chicao at its peak. We've had this discussion on here before. They dominated the city with corruption; you are talking about dozens upon dozens if not hundres of corrupt cops, there was at least one Alderman who was a made member of the Outfit and far more than that who were their patsies, there were countless politicians in their pocket. They controlled an absurd number of unions and their tentacles stretched to arguably dominate Vegas, Hollywood, the jukebox industry as well as, as pointed out above, a fair amount of international ventures in other countries.

It's also hard not to believe that they were at some level involved in the election of Kennedy and collaborated wth the CIA on things like the Bay of Pigs and asassination attempts on Castro.

This is not even mentioning the army of, what, thousands or tens of thousands under Capone? (It was probably a numberically superior but not as viciously subervsive a mob.)

It's not really bragging rights; Chicago's corruption is somewhat embarrassing. But it makes sense that it was easier than in other places, as it was pretty much a Wild West town in the early part of the 20th century.

This is almost like a P4P boxing debate; you'll never get a srtraight answer but in terms of scope of power I'm yet to hear a convincing argument that any organization rivaled the Outfit under Ricca/Arcaddo/Giancana/Humphries.

Obviously when it comes to today, I am probably one of those posters who would peg it as being borderline defunct.


I'd argue guys like Frank Costello and Tommy Lucchese had as much political clout as anyone in Chicago ever did. New Jersey has always been just as corrupt as Illinois, and the Genovese family were the main benefactors there. People also forget that up through much of the 1960's, police corruption was widespread in NYC, with many departments on the pad.

Before the families outside the Midwest started selling their interests in the Las Vegas casinos, the Genovese family's presence there was second only to Chicago. They also had interests in Havana before Castro, as well as in Florida and Louisiana. But the casinos in any place were never the routine moneymakers that numbers and sports betting were; and nobody was bigger in those rackets than the Genovese.

I'd argue the Genovese family has always been the most powerful and diversified in terms of labor unions and legitimate industries. The ILA, the Teamsters, the Carpenters, the Mason Tenders, Fulton Fish Market, Javits Center, garbage hauling throughout the tri-state area, trucking, construction, the entertainment business, vending, the garment center, Times Square adult businesses, restaurants and nightclubs, food wholesaling, etc.

Lastly, the Genovese family had the advantage of operating from the mob's "ground zero" - New York - and represented several of the families east of Chicago on the Commission. And the east coast was always more important than anything out west.



Good argument but without some way to quantify the question I guess there will never be a definite answer.

It's above my head.

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: IvyLeague] #728693
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
[quote=jonnynonos]If you believe Russo's book, and it's pretty well sourced, it's hard to believe that any other family was as powerful as Chicao at its peak. We've had this discussion on here before. They dominated the city with corruption; you are talking about dozens upon dozens if not hundres of corrupt cops, there was at least one Alderman who was a made member of the Outfit and far more than that who were their patsies, there were countless politicians in their pocket. They controlled an absurd number of unions and their tentacles stretched to arguably dominate Vegas, Hollywood, the jukebox industry as well as, as pointed out above, a fair amount of international ventures in other countries.

It's also hard not to believe that they were at some level involved in the election of Kennedy and collaborated wth the CIA on things like the Bay of Pigs and asassination attempts on Castro.

This is not even mentioning the army of, what, thousands or tens of thousands under Capone? (It was probably a numberically superior but not as viciously subervsive a mob.)

It's not really bragging rights; Chicago's corruption is somewhat embarrassing. But it makes sense that it was easier than in other places, as it was pretty much a Wild West town in the early part of the 20th century.

This is almost like a P4P boxing debate; you'll never get a srtraight answer but in terms of scope of power I'm yet to hear a convincing argument that any organization rivaled the Outfit under Ricca/Arcaddo/Giancana/Humphries.

Obviously when it comes to today, I am probably one of those posters who would peg it as being borderline defunct.


I'd argue guys like Frank Costello and Tommy Lucchese had as much political clout as anyone in Chicago ever did. New Jersey has always been just as corrupt as Illinois, and the Genovese family were the main benefactors there. People also forget that up through much of the 1960's, police corruption was widespread in NYC, with many departments on the pad.

Before the families outside the Midwest started selling their interests in the Las Vegas casinos, the Genovese family's presence there was second only to Chicago. They also had interests in Havana before Castro, as well as in Florida and Louisiana. But the casinos in any place were never the routine moneymakers that numbers and sports betting were; and nobody was bigger in those rackets than the Genovese.

I'd argue the Genovese family has always been the most powerful and diversified in terms of labor unions and legitimate industries. The ILA, the Teamsters, the Carpenters, the Mason Tenders, Fulton Fish Market, Javits Center, garbage hauling throughout the tri-state area, trucking, construction, the entertainment business, vending, the garment center, Times Square adult businesses, restaurants and nightclubs, food wholesaling, etc.

Lastly, the Genovese family had the advantage of operating from the mob's "ground zero" - New York - and represented several of the families east of Chicago on the Commission. And the east coast was always more important than anything out west.

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the Chicago syndicate is responsible for the most scandalous schemes of any family

Hollywood, wire services, kennedy, castro, las vegas, etc

comparing Chicago's mob against NY's combined mobs ain't practical

there is too much crooked money to be made in Chicago for the outfit to have no clout

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
[quote=jonnynonos]If you believe Russo's book, and it's pretty well sourced, it's hard to believe that any other family was as powerful as Chicao at its peak. We've had this discussion on here before. They dominated the city with corruption; you are talking about dozens upon dozens if not hundres of corrupt cops, there was at least one Alderman who was a made member of the Outfit and far more than that who were their patsies, there were countless politicians in their pocket. They controlled an absurd number of unions and their tentacles stretched to arguably dominate Vegas, Hollywood, the jukebox industry as well as, as pointed out above, a fair amount of international ventures in other countries.

It's also hard not to believe that they were at some level involved in the election of Kennedy and collaborated wth the CIA on things like the Bay of Pigs and asassination attempts on Castro.

This is not even mentioning the army of, what, thousands or tens of thousands under Capone? (It was probably a numberically superior but not as viciously subervsive a mob.)

It's not really bragging rights; Chicago's corruption is somewhat embarrassing. But it makes sense that it was easier than in other places, as it was pretty much a Wild West town in the early part of the 20th century.

This is almost like a P4P boxing debate; you'll never get a srtraight answer but in terms of scope of power I'm yet to hear a convincing argument that any organization rivaled the Outfit under Ricca/Arcaddo/Giancana/Humphries.

Obviously when it comes to today, I am probably one of those posters who would peg it as being borderline defunct.


I'd argue guys like Frank Costello and Tommy Lucchese had as much political clout as anyone in Chicago ever did. New Jersey has always been just as corrupt as Illinois, and the Genovese family were the main benefactors there. People also forget that up through much of the 1960's, police corruption was widespread in NYC, with many departments on the pad.

Before the families outside the Midwest started selling their interests in the Las Vegas casinos, the Genovese family's presence there was second only to Chicago. They also had interests in Havana before Castro, as well as in Florida and Louisiana. But the casinos in any place were never the routine moneymakers that numbers and sports betting were; and nobody was bigger in those rackets than the Genovese.

I'd argue the Genovese family has always been the most powerful and diversified in terms of labor unions and legitimate industries. The ILA, the Teamsters, the Carpenters, the Mason Tenders, Fulton Fish Market, Javits Center, garbage hauling throughout the tri-state area, trucking, construction, the entertainment business, vending, the garment center, Times Square adult businesses, restaurants and nightclubs, food wholesaling, etc.

Lastly, the Genovese family had the advantage of operating from the mob's "ground zero" - New York - and represented several of the families east of Chicago on the Commission. And the east coast was always more important than anything out west.

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the Chicago syndicate is responsible for the most scandalous schemes of any family

Hollywood, wire services, kennedy, castro, las vegas, etc

comparing Chicago's mob against NY's combined mobs ain't practical

there is too much crooked money to be made in Chicago for the outfit to have no clout


There's no Mob like in NYC. NYC has 5 families. Certain neighborhoods like Bensonhurst or Ozone Park are still very mafia centric, although that is changing from what I have read. In Chicago, the mob since the 1970s has been increasingly suburban and more in shadows, although of course very prevalent.

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
the Chicago syndicate is responsible for the most scandalous schemes of any family

Hollywood, wire services, kennedy, castro, las vegas, etc


The most scandalous schemes? Whatever that means. The Outfit did extort Hollywood studios a long time ago. Kennedy and Castro are a stretch. If we want to get technical, Bugsy was responsible for Vegas and later mob families got involved.

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comparing Chicago's mob against NY's combined mobs ain't practical


When did I ever compare the Outfit to all 5 NY families? But if we're comparing the Outfit to the Genovese family, the Genovese operating from ground zero, in mob terms, as well as representing more important families in the east, is something to consider.

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there is too much crooked money to be made in Chicago for the outfit to have no clout


Nobody said they have "no clout." What I've been stressing for years now is the outdated notion that the Outfit continues to have a monolithic, all encompassing hold on Chicago; where nearly all crime and corruption revolve around it. The Outfit's clout, in any form you want to look at, is a tiny fraction of what it was years ago. But some people can't seem to make that leap to the 21st century, but choose to stay in the 1970's if not earlier.


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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
the Chicago syndicate is responsible for the most scandalous schemes of any family

Hollywood, wire services, kennedy, castro, las vegas, etc


The most scandalous schemes? Whatever that means. The Outfit did extort Hollywood studios a long time ago. Kennedy and Castro are a stretch. If we want to get technical, Bugsy was responsible for Vegas and later mob families got involved.

Quote:
comparing Chicago's mob against NY's combined mobs ain't practical


When did I ever compare the Outfit to all 5 NY families? But if we're comparing the Outfit to the Genovese family, the Genovese operating from ground zero, in mob terms, as well as representing more important families in the east, is something to consider.

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there is too much crooked money to be made in Chicago for the outfit to have no clout


Nobody said they have "no clout." What I've been stressing for years now is the outdated notion that the Outfit continues to have a monolithic, all encompassing hold on Chicago; where nearly all crime and corruption revolve around it. The Outfit's clout, in any form you want to look at, is a tiny fraction of what it was years ago. But some people can't seem to make that leap to the 21st century, but choose to stay in the 1970's if not earlier.



@ivyleague

you know what the fuck a scandal is

kinda like when one of your neighbors get pinched for marrying six year olds

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@ivyleague

you know what the fuck a scandal is

kinda like when one of your neighbors get pinched for marrying six year olds




I know the definition of the word. I'm just not sure what point you're trying to make with it.

By the way, shouldn't you be holding a rally for Treyvon or something?


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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@ivyleague

you know what the fuck a scandal is

kinda like when one of your neighbors get pinched for marrying six year olds

hey, lets keep the personal attacks off the boards there buddy! if you are unable to do so, then maybe someone will make that decision for you! wink


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Oh Christ, not this thread again. Not after the Blackhawks lost!

lol lol lol lol

I really tickle myself sometimes.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Oh Christ, not this thread again.

My thoughts exactly. This can only bring out the stupid.

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I guess bumping this thread is someone's sick idea of a joke.


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Oh Christ, not this thread again.

My thoughts exactly. This can only bring out the stupid.

They got our attention whistle.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

I really tickle myself sometimes.


All you east coast flunkies do...what is it you call yourselves - metrosexuals? You care more about your clothes and hair than women. That's not right.

I'd still rather be a Blackhawks fan than admit I support the Rangers who almost got swept by LA. I think anyone who watches hockey would admit that had the Hawks beaten LA - and they played them far fucking better than NY and were within one game of winning the series - they would have kicked your fuckin' teeth in too pal lol

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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

I really tickle myself sometimes.


All you east coast flunkies do...what is it you call yourselves - metrosexuals? You care more about your clothes and hair than women. That's not right.

Where the fuck did that come from? confused

I WAS one of the only people on this site that you hadn't alienated.


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I think he was just kidding. See what happens when this thread gets drudged up from the bowels of obscurity?


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

I really tickle myself sometimes.


All you east coast flunkies do...what is it you call yourselves - metrosexuals? You care more about your clothes and hair than women. That's not right.

Where the fuck did that come from? confused

I WAS one of the only people on this site that you hadn't alienated.


haha Come on and take a joke PB. You aren't that old and your balls aren't that sensitive when I break them over the Blackhawks. You wont ever find me getting sensitive with all the east coasters smacking down ChiTown...I just smack back harder lol

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Okay.

My old balls are a little twisted today anyway because I'm waiting for a FedEx all day and I don't want to miss it. But I have things to do.

You know how frustrating that can be ohwell .


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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
You wont ever find me getting sensitive with all the east coasters smacking down ChiTown...I just smack back harder lol

And that's just the thing. I NEVER smack down ChiTown. Not once in my eight years here. I don't get involved in that regional rivalry crap. Because you know what?

Sports are one thing. Even pride in local food and restaurants is understandable. But anyone who takes regional pride in his local criminals is sick in the fucking head. I repeat that. Sick in the fucking head wink.


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So are the Gambino and Genovese families the most powerful in NY, historically?

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
You wont ever find me getting sensitive with all the east coasters smacking down ChiTown...I just smack back harder lol

And that's just the thing. I NEVER smack down ChiTown. Not once in my eight years here. I don't get involved in that regional rivalry crap. Because you know what?

Sports are one thing. Even pride in local food and restaurants is understandable. But anyone who takes regional pride in his local criminals is sick in the fucking head. I repeat that. Sick in the fucking head wink.


I agree with that and well said PB. My balls get twisted personally anytime someone even says "Blackhaws" around me. I hate NY sports, but did see Jeter when he was in Chicago to play the Sox - and he's my favorite ball player and a class act.

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The Chicago Mafias prime was during the Paul Ricca/Mooney Giancana era, 50s & 60s. Not during prohibition. You couldn't even call it the Outfit back then, it was a big free for all.

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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
The Chicago Mafias prime was during the Paul Ricca/Mooney Giancana era, 50s & 60s. Not during prohibition. You couldn't even call it the Outfit back then, it was a big free for all.

I would include 70s in the prime

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Okay.

My old balls are a little twisted today anyway because I'm waiting for a FedEx all day and I don't want to miss it. But I have things to do.

You know how frustrating that can be ohwell .


Jesus you to? they call this morning telling me my package is coming between the hours of 3pm-6pm which is a ridiculous fucking time period, so I'm sitting at home all day long waiting for these c unts while i had a whole list of shit to do but couldn't leave and then finally 15 mins ago i get fed up with it and call and they track my order and tell me that there was a mix up and my package isn't coming until tomorrow :roll eyes: its shit like this that makes me wanna go out and do bad things to good people.


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