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Re: Phil Leonetti radio interview [Re: IvyLeague] #685939
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Speaking of American Greed and counterfeiters, on another show about good scams they had a real good episode on a kid and a few of his friends who were counterfeiting Canadian $100 bills close to perfection on their pc's, they passed all the counterfeit detection tools that were available at the time. It got so bad that most businesses in Canada refused to take any $100 bill. The kids name was Wesley Weber.

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shit he could have bought some of that b.c. bud..or at leasr make a bet or two.lol.

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There was a black guy on an american greed episode probably in his 30's that produced a good amount of counterfeited money by using recycled newsprint, he was based out of L.A.. I'm sure it might be on youtube, the simplicity of it was funny because you would never expect it. He simply used the Program " Paint." They would also used aqua-net hairspray so the counterfeit detecting pens would pass it as real. They actually hit all 50 states. One of the ways the feds tracked him down was he was using his Staples Rewards card to save on ink, the funny thing is when I was on probation I worked their for about 2 years while going to college at the same time. Given the amount of profit he made, and to try and save money leaving a paper trail (No Pun Intended) cracked me up. Because everytime you brought in an empty ink cartlidge they'd give you a coupon for $3.00 off your purchase and you could use 3 of those at a time at the max. They no longer do that... but that little tidbit I remeber had me and my pops laughing are asses off hearing that when watching it


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Re: Phil Leonetti radio interview [Re: gamms] #685947
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Originally Posted By: gamms
shit he could have bought some of that b.c. bud..or at leasr make a bet or two.lol.


You think he would of chip-washed with some fugazi's, this kid was smart enough to beat all the detection tools its not like casino where they break your legs you just get arrested I woulda robbed them blind..


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Re: Phil Leonetti radio interview [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #685950
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
There was a black guy on an american greed episode probably in his 30's that produced a good amount of counterfeited money by using recycled newsprint, he was based out of L.A.. I'm sure it might be on youtube, the simplicity of it was funny because you would never expect it. He simply used the Program " Paint." They would also used aqua-net hairspray so the counterfeit detecting pens would pass it as real. They actually hit all 50 states. One of the ways the feds tracked him down was he was using his Staples Rewards card to save on ink, the funny thing is when I was on probation I worked their for about 2 years while going to college at the same time. Given the amount of profit he made, and to try and save money leaving a paper trail (No Pun Intended) cracked me up. Because everytime you brought in an empty ink cartlidge they'd give you a coupon for $3.00 off your purchase and you could use 3 of those at a time at the max. They no longer do that... but that little tidbit I remeber had me and my pops laughing are asses off hearing that when watching it


I saw that one with the hairspray, pretty clever. We were talking about that episode a few posts back.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=685934#Post685934

All these shows put real bad ideas in my brain. I swear everytime i watch them i get the biggest urge to go pull down a score of one kind or another. lol

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
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There was a black guy on an american greed episode probably in his 30's that produced a good amount of counterfeited money by using recycled newsprint, he was based out of L.A.. I'm sure it might be on youtube, the simplicity of it was funny because you would never expect it. He simply used the Program " Paint." They would also used aqua-net hairspray so the counterfeit detecting pens would pass it as real. They actually hit all 50 states. One of the ways the feds tracked him down was he was using his Staples Rewards card to save on ink, the funny thing is when I was on probation I worked their for about 2 years while going to college at the same time. Given the amount of profit he made, and to try and save money leaving a paper trail (No Pun Intended) cracked me up. Because everytime you brought in an empty ink cartlidge they'd give you a coupon for $3.00 off your purchase and you could use 3 of those at a time at the max. They no longer do that... but that little tidbit I remeber had me and my pops laughing are asses off hearing that when watching it


I saw that one with the hairspray, pretty clever. We were talking about that episode a few posts back.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=685934#Post685934

All these shows put real bad ideas in my brain. I swear everytime i watch them i get the biggest urge to go pull down a score of one kind or another. lol


lol haha counterfeit wine . I get a kick out of it you'd have a huge market for it up and coming young professionals trying to impress people would probably would knowingly probably buy the fake wine to impress their bosses


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Re: Phil Leonetti radio interview [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #685953
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
There was a black guy on an american greed episode probably in his 30's that produced a good amount of counterfeited money by using recycled newsprint, he was based out of L.A.. I'm sure it might be on youtube, the simplicity of it was funny because you would never expect it. He simply used the Program " Paint." They would also used aqua-net hairspray so the counterfeit detecting pens would pass it as real. They actually hit all 50 states. One of the ways the feds tracked him down was he was using his Staples Rewards card to save on ink, the funny thing is when I was on probation I worked their for about 2 years while going to college at the same time. Given the amount of profit he made, and to try and save money leaving a paper trail (No Pun Intended) cracked me up. Because everytime you brought in an empty ink cartlidge they'd give you a coupon for $3.00 off your purchase and you could use 3 of those at a time at the max. They no longer do that... but that little tidbit I remeber had me and my pops laughing are asses off hearing that when watching it


Yeah that's the guy I mentioned. Talton. Crazy his method was pretty simple.. They also caught onto one of his guys cause he was being followed by undercovers and he pulled into a popeyes chicken drive thru. Well the idiot decided to pay for his food with a counterfeit $20.. Well once the undercovers saw him pay they went inside and asked the employee for the bill. Sure enough it was a fake. For making so much money they sure did some stupid ass shit between that and the trail he left buying the ink at staples..

Re: Phil Leonetti radio interview [Re: gamms] #685955
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Originally Posted By: gamms
shit he could have bought some of that b.c. bud..or at leasr make a bet or two.lol.


According to this Royal Canadian Mounted Police website Weber was also running a indoor weed grow operation near Sarnia at the same time they were counterfeiting. So they didn't need to buy any BC Bud, they were growing it.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/pubs/ci-rc/cf/weber-eng.htm

Weber's counterfeits were the best ever in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Weber


Re: Phil Leonetti radio interview [Re: dsbaloo] #685957
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Originally Posted By: dsbaloo

Yeah that's the guy I mentioned. Talton. Crazy his method was pretty simple.. They also caught onto one of his guys cause he was being followed by undercovers and he pulled into a popeyes chicken drive thru. Well the idiot decided to pay for his food with a counterfeit $20.. Well once the undercovers saw him pay they went inside and asked the employee for the bill. Sure enough it was a fake. For making so much money they sure did some stupid ass shit between that and the trail he left buying the ink at staples..


HaHaHa, Popeyes Chicken. lol

Re: Phil Leonetti radio interview [Re: Giancarlo] #685964
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Here is the episode on Talton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ShR6Rr4HU

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how do you not notice a tail follow you around a drive through?lol.

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We are still feeling that scam here in Canada. Still today most of our stores don't except $100 bills sometimes they won't even except $50.

We do have new bills now starting to come out it is so thin and sticks together stupid in my opinion.

The point is they are now starting to except these as they are new and feel no one can counterfeit it or it is to soon.

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Originally Posted By: gamms
how do you not notice a tail follow you around a drive through?lol.



Well they were at Popeyes I'm sure all their attention was diverted at the menu when I'm in North Phila I always get a few honey biscuts I bet they could of got him somewhere else but did that on purpose


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Re: Phil Leonetti radio interview [Re: IvyLeague] #686047
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Originally Posted By: Scalish
We are still feeling that scam here in Canada. Still today most of our stores don't except $100 bills sometimes they won't even except $50.

We do have new bills now starting to come out it is so thin and sticks together stupid in my opinion.

The point is they are now starting to except these as they are new and feel no one can counterfeit it or it is to soon.


It was around 12 years ago so i don't doubt they made the currency more secure. Same thing down here in the states, a bunch of new anti counterfeiting measures with the new bill's.

What made that case so good was that his $100's at the time passed all the tests for counterfeiting that were available at the time he was printing them, and from what i remember he did it all on a desktop pc with some decent software like photoshop. Same thing with the guys in LA, i'm pretty sure they used a pc and photoshop too. I think the latest printers, scanners and photoshop have some security measures built into them so that they can't be used to make currency. You actually get a warning that it's illegal to counterfeit or something like that when you try to scan a bill. I've read that a couple times over the past couple of years.

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the best fakes still come from n. korea?

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Originally Posted By: gamms
the best fakes still come from n. korea?


Your right, i think they were called super notes or something similar to it. Iran was another country that made great counterfeit US currency. When the Shah was in power we gave him the identical presses and paper that we used to produce our currency at the time. After the Shah was thrown out they started up the counterfeiting to support their revolution or so the story goes. All they needed were the plates, they already had the correct printing press and paper to produce US currency. I think there's a good chance Iran sold North Korea the presses and technology that the Korean's used to make those Super Notes which were almost perfect copies of our $100 bill. Even banks had trouble identifying the bogus bills. They were that good.

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
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Yeah that's the guy I mentioned. Talton. Crazy his method was pretty simple.. They also caught onto one of his guys cause he was being followed by undercovers and he pulled into a popeyes chicken drive thru. Well the idiot decided to pay for his food with a counterfeit $20.. Well once the undercovers saw him pay they went inside and asked the employee for the bill. Sure enough it was a fake. For making so much money they sure did some stupid ass shit between that and the trail he left buying the ink at staples..


HaHaHa, Popeyes Chicken. lol



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyW6w5B7Aw


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Just finished Mafia Prince. Everybody hates Joey Merlino. haha.

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Interview quits at 5 min mark

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Garcia writes about these Counterfeit $100 N Korean supernotes in his book, Making Jack Falcone. He worked some undercover case in Atlantic city that seized millions of these counterfeits. He said they were undetectable.

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