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Simon City Royals #685108
12/23/12 02:06 PM
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Said to be the most violent white street gang in American gang history. Originally consisted of white European descendants and immigrants, mostly Italians, Irish, Greeks, English, Scottish, Dutch, Germans and migrated Southerners ( have since also spread to Mississippi ). They also have some African American and Hispanic members.
Does anybody know if they are still active ?

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Not sure. There is a great book called "Lords of Lawndale" and subsequently retitled under "Great American Youth" by a guy named Michael Polk (not real name) talking about his time as an Almighty Gaylord in Chicago in the 80s. I think he lived in the West Logan Square area, somewhere around there.

It's a first hand account and poorly edited but very interesting if you're interested in the gangs from that era.

From what I understand there are still a very few small "sets" of Gaylords around Chicago.

He talks extensively about the Royals and similar gangs in it.

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Thanks for the tip ! I'll surely check it out

Re: Simon City Royals [Re: TheKillingJoke] #685147
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Yes. They still have a couple spots on the northside of Chicago. And chapters in Wisconsin, Tennessee, and of course Mississippi. Within Mississippi prisons they make up about 11% of the gang population. There involved in Drug trafficking, Gun Trafficking, and other activities here in Mississippi.


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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Yes. They still have a couple spots on the northside of Chicago. And chapters in Wisconsin, Tennessee, and of course Mississippi. Within Mississippi prisons they make up about 11% of the gang population. There involved in Drug trafficking, Gun Trafficking, and other activities here in Mississippi.


Thnx for the answer!
Do you consider them to be a major ( more or less organized ) force in Mississippi ?

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they must have beef with aryan gangs because if there that big in the prison system in mississippi they gotta be pretty powerful amongst the white population. They gotta be a pretty good alternative for white criminals at least with them you aint gotta paint yourself into the whole white supremacist corner in order to survive.

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It depends on your definition of major force. Numbers, Activities, or etc. What do you mean?


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The Aryan Brotherhood is the only white supremacist group in Mississippi prison and being a major prison gang in the state. They are exclusive so they don't really compete for membership with the Simon City Royal. They "might" use the royals as a recruitment pool. The A.B have around 152 members in Mississippi prisons overall.


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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
they must have beef with aryan gangs because if there that big in the prison system in mississippi they gotta be pretty powerful amongst the white population. They gotta be a pretty good alternative for white criminals at least with them you aint gotta paint yourself into the whole white supremacist corner in order to survive.


Yes I'm also pretty sure that the Simon City Royals and Dead Man Incorporated offer a good alternative for southern white inmates in places like Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma,...if you 'want' to be part of a white criminal gang without being described as a racist. But especially in Texas, the Aryan Brotherhood is still the majority.

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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
The Aryan Brotherhood is the only white supremacist group in Mississippi prison and being a major prison gang in the state. They are exclusive so they don't really compete for membership with the Simon City Royal. They "might" use the royals as a recruitment pool. The A.B have around 152 members in Mississippi prisons overall.


I doubt a Folk Nations gang like the SCR is being used as a recruitment pool by the AB. But you never know for sure of course

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Here's an indepth answer: Many people in our community believe that street gangs are only a problem in big cities and that friendly Hancock County could not possibly have a major gang running through its streets.
Those people are wrong, and they need to look no further than Bay St. Louis' biggest public landmark for the proof.
The graffiti under the bridge may look like the work of bored teenagers to most, but to those who understand what they mean, the blue pitchfork and six-point star represent a chilling message: The Simon City Royals are here and this is their town.
"I want people to know that this is for real," Joel Lee of the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms said Friday. "This can affect you and your family just it can anyone else. It is a serious issue that we can't ignore."
The Royals were created in Chicago in the 1960s, but over the years, they have migrated throughout the country.
In the early 90s, the Royals became a force in the Mississippi prison system and members brought back what they learned to their hometowns once they were released.
Today their ranks have swelled and many active members are operating in Hancock County.

The Royals
The Simon City Royals (SCR) are a predominantly white male group in Mississippi who are directly affiliated with the Almighty Black Gangster Disciples.
In other states, black and Hispanic members are regularly admitted.
Women are also accepted into the SCR, but on a limited basis. Female members are called "starlets" and members' wives are known as "G Queens."
Women who are not married to or dating an SCR member must endure a humiliating "beating" or sexual initiation before being accepted into the group.
Hancock County Jail Warden and gang expert Evan Hubbard said there are more than 1,600 known SCR members on the Gulf Coast alone.
When it was created, SCR was structured similarly to the Italian-American mafia.
Members say SCR is a national brotherhood of members and they do not have individual chapters.
Instead, each community or clique is run by a "superior." Some areas have several superiors running different cliques. The superiors answer to a regional "superior" who answers to state and national leaders.
The superior is in charge of all activities in his area.
When in jail, SCR members answer to the ranking member inside the facility, known as "Nine-Three." In smaller jails such as in Hancock County the head SCR member is known as "The House Man."
The gang must have all crimes approved (getting paperwork) by the superior or Nine-Three before they are committed.
If a member commits a crime without paperwork, then he or she faces a punishment, which could range from a fine to a severe beating.
Paperwork can be obtained at anytime, but most often it is done at monthly meetings.
"There are usually a lot of people at the meetings," one associate said. "The wives and kids usually are outside barbecuing or something and the men are inside talking about business. It's like a family reunion."
The gang's criminal activities largely revolve around the drug trade. Burglary and theft are also popular SCR crimes.

Attractive to the youth
Most SCR members join before their 20s. Hubbard said the average starting age for SCR members in Mississippi is 14.
Traditionally, poor kids from broken homes are most likely to join street gangs, and such is the case with the SCR.
Other members join for protection when they go to jail, associates said.
However, the popularity of marijuana in youth circles and more recently, the Spice epidemic, have allowed more teenagers from middle class and affluent families to be introduced to the gang.
"I've seen a lot of kids from rich families join the gang," one member said. "They like the drugs and then they want to be a part of something. They want to see if they can measure up."

Explosion in ranks
Prior to Hurricane Katrina, the SCR was a much smaller group in Hancock County, and its members were hardly ever in the news.
Since the storm, its ranks have skyrocketed, officials said.
The main reason for the explosion is poverty and boredom, associates said.
"There was nothing for kids to do except smoke dope," one associate said.
"Our numbers have probably tripled since the storm," another member said.
A 2001 Department of Justice report showed that 20 percent of students ages 12 through 18 reported gang activity at their school.
According to the 2010 Mississippi Gang Threat Assessment (MGTA) compiled by the Mississippi Analysis and Information Center, the SCR currently makes up 11 percent of the Mississippi prison system's gang population, making it the largest white gang in the Mississippi Department of Corrections.
In the past five years, more than 6,000 gang members have been released from Mississippi prisons, Hubbard said.
There are currently more than 30 documented SCR members incarcerated in the Hancock County Jail, Hubbard said, making up about 25 percent of the non-state inmate population.
In the past eight months, Hubbard said, he and his staff have identified 59 known gang members who have been arrested in Hancock County. Thirty of them were SCR, more than all other gangs combined, he said.
Other white gangs in South Mississippi include the Latin Kings and the Aryan Brotherhood, but their numbers pale in comparison to the SCR.
"SCR is the biggest white gang in Mississippi right now," an associate said. "Everywhere you go, they are there."
Despite a lot of quality information compiled by law enforcement agencies, the exact number of SCR members is not even close to being known.
One associate said that there are just as many members who claim to be part of the gang than are actually in it.
"There are a lot of fake people out there saying they are SCR," the associate said.

Signs and symbols:
The Royals are known for the color royal blue and the six-point star. The SCR also uses a three-point pitchfork to represent its history as part of the "Brothers of Struggle."
Members are known to wear blue clothing or bandannas and they have an array of hand signals and signs.

A hard lifestyle to give up
SCR members and their families often enjoy an easy lifestyle because of the money generated through criminal endeavors.
"I never had to worry about anything," a former SCR girlfriend said. "I never asked where the money was coming from. He never had a job, but he always made sure everything was paid and he treated me good.
The woman said that the group "always looks out for its members"
and there is a treasury set up for families who have husbands or boyfriends locked up.
"If I could not pay my light bill, all I had to do was call the superior, and it was taken care of," she said. "They were very big on loyalty."
Unlike some gangs, SCR members are allowed to retire or "hang up the flag."
Retirement must be earned, by spending many years in the group or making a significant impact or contribution to the group.
Once retired, the group can no longer require individuals to commit crimes.
"I put in my time," a retired member said. "They can't call on me anymore. I still have a lot of friends and brothers, but most of them are old cats like me, who just want to relax."
For younger members, getting out is not an option, despite pleas from family and loved ones.
"I want him to get out," a member's girlfriend said. "It's very scary sometimes. You are always looking over your shoulder and worried if you made another member mad. I worry about our safety and the safety of our kids."

Law enforcement taking notice
According to the 2010 MGTA report, overall gang-related crime rose 28 percent in the state from 2004-2008.
In the past year, local, state, and federal officials have begun focusing on the SCR and targeting their its operations.
Earlier this year, a major ATF operation busted about 20 SCR members from Harrison and Jackson County in jail. Federal agents seized a large number of guns, drugs, and cash in the raid.
In Hancock County, the sheriff's office, and the Bay St. Louis and Waveland Police Departments arrested more than 25 SCR members in 2012, officials said.
Last year, several SCR members and associates from Hancock and Harrison counties were sent to federal prison for threatening witnesses on Facebook.
"Gang activity and crime go hand-and-hand," Hancock County Sheriff Ricky Adam said. "It has been a progression, but it seems like it has become more prevalent in the past few years, so we are certainly putting a bigger focus on it."
In response to the spike in gang-related crime, police and sheriff's offices across the state are now sending officers for specialized training.
The Mississippi Association of Gang Investigators is one of the groups leading the charge.
The group assists in and promotes the rapid collection, analysis, exchange, and dissemination of gang-related intelligence, and then passes it on to law enforcement agencies.
Hubbard is the first member from Hancock County to be in the group.

Public perception:
The retired SCR member interviewed for this story said it is unfair to stereotype all past and current members because of the actions of a few.
One of the first things a member must do before gaining admittance is learn the "13 laws," he said.
The laws include such instructions as not stealing, not doing drugs, and always being an honorable person.
Unfortunately, he said, many members do not follow their own laws.
"If you find a Royal who lives by the 13 laws, than that is the person who should be running the state government," he said. "The laws are in place to help you become a better man, husband, father, and citizen."
He said many SCR members are good, law-abiding citizens; however, the younger generation has given the group a bad name.
"The old cats that have done their time understand structure and respect," he said. "We were never out robbing people. We never had tattoos on our face or showed off in public. I will always be a Royal, but that's all it is. I'm a normal person just like anyone else. I'm a member of a group of friends and brothers. When we hang out it's just a bunch of friends getting together and having fun."
The SCR claims it is not a gang, but rather an "organization," a claim law enforcement officials say they think is outrageous.
"They are trying to legitimize themselves," Hubbard said. "They can call themselves what they want, but there is no official organization called the Simon City Royals."
SCR associates claim that they do not tolerate violent crimes against innocent civilians, especially women and children, and most of the more serious crimes are not sanctioned by leaders.
"Violence is only used when someone crosses the gang or when we have to defend ourselves or punish members," an associate said.
Although there are rules against harming civilians, it still happens, the retired member said.
"The problem is they are recruiting young kids to be in the gang," he said. "They are sending kids to do a man's job. These Royals today do what they want to do. It gives us all a bad name."


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