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Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683297
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I am hearing of a school shooting at an elementary school in CT. Shooter is dead. Man, what the hell is going on? mad frown confused



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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683298
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I am hearing of a school shooting at an elementary school in CT. Shooter is dead. Man, what the hell is going on? mad frown confused

Crazy, Tis. But I think it was in the office, thank God. I mean, an elementary school? frown


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: pizzaboy] #683304
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It's been confirmed that some children are among the victims. State Police have completed a search of the school building and have not found a second gunman but reports are they are still searching the area for a POSSIBLE second gunman. The first, known gunman is dead.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: SC] #683305
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Thanks SC. I am just hearing an update now. They have reports of the child victims but MSNBC is not confirming. They also just said that they are being told that this shooting is much worse than being reported. frown Those poor little kids must be scared to death (not to mention the adults).



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They are reporting that some of the parents are reporting that the Principal and others may have been the target (which is logical if they entered the office)

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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683306
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CNN has reported that the principal and a school psychologist have been killed. Local tv is showing live coverage and to see the parents racing to the scene (to find their own children) is absolutely heart breaking.

Apparently many of the kids were led out of the school by teachers and staff as the incident occurred. There's a firehouse a short distance away and to see the kids running towards it (without coats on) is unnerving.

To see the parents with their kids now.... they aren't letting go of each other, and many kids wearing a parent's coat is bringing tears to my eyes.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: SC] #683307
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More than a dozen fatalities have been confirmed.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: SC] #683308
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Turned to CNN. Thanks

I can ONLY imagine what the parents/kids are going thru. I really feel badly for the kids especially. Seeing little tots terrified is so sad. frown



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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683310
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Holy shit!! IT'S NOW BEING REPORTED THAT MORE THAN 20 HAVE BEEN KILLED.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: SC] #683311
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OMG, how horrible. There is suppose to be a press conference with police in about five minutes.

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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683312
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The AP is now reporting 27 dead, 18 of which are kids.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: SC] #683313
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SC,

I thought I heard earlier that they found several guns in the area? Do you know anything about that? confused

Only one time when I was working (Middle school) did we have a lockdown. Someone with a gun was reported in the area. Thankfully nobody at the school was affected BUT it IS scary that's for sure.


TIS


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683314
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TIS, it was reported that the gunman had several guns.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: olivant] #683315
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We've got to do something. These murders will continue and they will get worse and worse. I am willing to pay any amount of property tax to support school security.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: SC] #683317
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Originally Posted By: SC
TIS, it was reported that the gunman had several guns.


I would be concerned there's more than one shooter IF he had several guns.

Oli,

I agree, something MUST be done but will not hold my breath unfortunately.

I guess the Vice Principal called 911 (she was shot in the leg and crawled out). frown

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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683318
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The constitution has to be changed. This insanity has to stop.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: dontomasso] #683319
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My daughter is a 1st grade teacher and I hear something like this and it does make me worry. It can happen anywhere. frown




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Praying for the families.
Tragic school shooting


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Re: school shooting [Re: Mignon] #683323
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some reports seem to suggest the shooter might have been a parent of a student at the school, but its still too early to tell. when i hear about these incidents, my first thought is always when the hell are ALL schools gonna have some real security? metal detectors and armed security gaurd or cop would go a long way in preventing these kinds of incidents. sadly, most schools definition of "security" is some old retired guy with maybe a radio who's sole responcibility seems to be catching kids smoking or some other meaningless crap. notice how the majority of these incidents usually occur in suburban or rural schools where security is almost non-existent. this doesn't seem to happen in say nyc, where there are police in and around every school, as well as metal detectors in alot as well.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Five_Felonies] #683324
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This topic has been discussed for a few hours in the Crime and Justice thread. I'm going to try and combine the threads.

Last edited by SC; 12/14/12 02:42 PM. Reason: Title change after merging threads

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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: SC] #683325
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out of the 27 killed there was 18 kids.

Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Scorsese] #683329
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CNN reported not to long ago allegedly by a witness that there is a second suspect that was cuffed, laying on the ground and as parents of the victims looked on, he said to them, "I didn't do it." Don't know any specifics OR if it actually happened. confused

With the number of guns I am really thinking there very well could be another shooter. These things have to play out and I'm sure we'll find out soon.

ALSO, CNN is reporting that total victims are likely closer to 30, mostly children. AND, that the shooter has a tie to the school, but don't know what that is exactly.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683330
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Here's a link to a short interview of a 4th grader who had been in gym class when this all broke loose. At the end, his father's reaction upon learning of how many deaths there were is gut wrenching.

INTERVIEW OF 4TH GRADER - CLICK HERE


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683331
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NBC just said that the POS focused on one classroom.

Also they just reported that one of the parents of the shooter was found dead at their home in Jersey.

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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Mignon] #683333
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SC, I saw that interview with the boy & his father earlier. That little kid seemed good considering what he went thru.

I am hearing on MSNBC that one of the shooter's parents' body was found in their New Jersey home. confused So shooter could be from NJ?

Plus, if shooter is only 20, unlikely he was a parent of a student. Maybe a former student with a grudge?? confused

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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683334
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I had heard of the New Jersey connection, too, but I don't know what to make of it.


EDIT: Just reported locally that the Hoboken Police Dept is checking out the shooter's apartment.

Last edited by SC; 12/14/12 03:23 PM. Reason: add update

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Originally Posted By: SC
I had heard of the New Jersey connection, too, but I don't know what to make of it.


EDIT: Just reported locally that the Hoboken Police Dept is checking out the shooter's apartment.


Hmm. Sounds like he and parents are NOT from CT? Wonder what the CT connection is then? confused His name is Ryan Lanza, 24 yrs. old OH< his mother was a teacher at the school?


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Mignon] #683336
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another report i saw claimed the shooter killed his mother, who was/is a teacher at the school, and then went to the school to kill the kids in her class.


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MSNBC is saying it was his father's body found. They don't know if it was his mom's classroom he was after or not. confused




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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Five_Felonies] #683339
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Could this be the killer?

IS THIS THE KILLER? --- CLICK HERE


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Originally Posted By: SC
Could this be the killer?

IS THIS THE KILLER? --- CLICK HERE


SC,

I get a "link not available". I wonder if it was blocked for legal purposes?


TIS

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