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Little Italy Crews: Manhattan #681899
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Anybody have any info on any pfthe current Mulberry St guys active nowadays, I believe the Lower East Side once housed members of all 5 families but what about post gentrification ? As far as I know you have Jimmy Mesera(Genovese Capo) Vincent Corrao(Gambino Capo) and Perry Cristicelli(Former manager San Genaro Feast an Bonnano soldier)

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I doubt there's much there since Manhattans Little Italy isn't even Italian anymore. But I might be wrong one of the NYC posters would know

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Originally Posted By: TonyBoy117
Anybody have any info on any pfthe current Mulberry St guys active nowadays, I believe the Lower East Side once housed members of all 5 families but what about post gentrification ? As far as I know you have Jimmy Mesera(Genovese Capo) Vincent Corrao(Gambino Capo) and Perry Cristicelli(Former manager San Genaro Feast an Bonnano soldier)

Perry has his restaurant on Mulberry Street. So do a few other guys. But there's hardly any mob activity in that area anymore. They certainly don't congregate there, and there hasn't been a social club in that neighborhood in years. Fact.


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Re: Little Italy Crews: Manhattan [Re: NickyEyes1] #681906
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
I doubt there's much there since Manhattans Little Italy isn't even Italian anymore. But I might be wrong one of the NYC posters would know

Funny you mention that, Nicky. I was reading not too long ago that at the 2010 census, there wasn't a single Italian born resident within the old Little Italy zip code (10013). If it's not Chinatown it's considered SoHo today. Big, big money to live there. 99% yuppies and professionals. The hipsters can't even afford it. That's why Williamsburg really took off. It's expensive, but still cheaper than lower Manhattan. The only things Italian about Mulberry Street today are the tourist trap restaurants and a deli or two.


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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
I doubt there's much there since Manhattans Little Italy isn't even Italian anymore. But I might be wrong one of the NYC posters would know


Yeah, you're right. Those guys don't stick around there for much only for "walk and talking" and some things on the side like the restaurant business as Pizzaboy said.

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getting perry 'made' was a smart move by tony green.as long as he was president of the feast as a made guy the feast 'belongs' to tony green.tony had to sit with q.d. for the right to perry. apparently the story im told is perry had been 'with' one of tonys guys before he was president of the association and they had no 'right' to 'veto' his button. real sharp move by tony green. not that it lasted very long.lol.

there was that place [federicos?] i belive,was a small 'cafe' in the back of that cigar shop.three little indians was its name i think. although,that might be a completely different place. mulberry street bar used to have neighborhood guys there but theres no such thing as a 'neighborhood guy' on mulberry street any more.lol. i remember in the 60s elizebeth street was all cafes and clubs and old bakerys. even john jovinos gun shop is some fucking gift shop now.they just kept the fucking sign out there to confuse guys like me who remember it before it was owned by a bunch shish kabobs.

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Are there any social clubs the mob use in NYC today?
That's crazy pizzaboy, I thought there were still a few left

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Mulberry Street bar?? You mean the old Stella di Mare?? The place used in like a zillion movies and tv shows with the big picture of Sinatra at the bar??

Yeah, years ago there were plenty of regular guys there. Today it's mostly well-to-do Asians, college kids from NYU and tourists who want to see where they filmed a mob movie.


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Re: Little Italy Crews: Manhattan [Re: NickyEyes1] #681914
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Are there any social clubs the mob use in NYC today?
That's crazy pizzaboy, I thought there were still a few left

There are still a few in the outer boroughs, but there isn't one left in Manhattan's Little Italy, Nicky. Believe me when I tell you wink.


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last time i was in there was about the same time the sopranos ended. i remember some fucking indian kid with sunglasses put on his 'tough guy pose' as his girl friend took his picture around the room.

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Yeah Iale the trip down every year in September and me ad my dad alway get a hunk of prosciutto from DiPaolo's but I figured theres got to be some stuff going on in the lower part of Manhattan and quiet a few charts still list guys as Captains of "Little Italy" ie Corrao, if not where did all the Manhattan guys go?, Just curious

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staten island, long islan, westchester, jersey,or florida.lol.

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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
i remember some fucking indian kid with sunglasses put on his 'tough guy pose' as his girl friend took his picture around the room.

Exactly the crowd I meant, Sit. I used to go there all the time. There wasn't a place in the neighborhood that wouldn't deliver food to my Dad and and my Uncle right at the bar. Now they'll only let one restaurant deliver there and that's only because they get a piece of the action. It's a college kid hangout now. It sucks.


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Originally Posted By: TonyBoy117
Yeah Iale the trip down every year in September and me ad my dad alway get a hunk of prosciutto from DiPaolo's but I figured theres got to be some stuff going on in the lower part of Manhattan and quiet a few charts still list guys as Captains of "Little Italy" ie Corrao, if not where did all the Manhattan guys go?, Just curious

That's just what they are, charts. Nothing more, nothing less. They're made by overzealous prosecutors and Internet mob groupies.


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brooklyn is getting the same.there are maybe a dozen just 'bars' in south west brooklyn.excluding bay ridge, which is getting to 'hip' for me. my oldest son lives right on 4th,his rent is ridiculous,youd think he was in bushwick.

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and vinny butch isnt skipper.his uncle has his dads oldcrew.

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Is just a place where they own businesses and extort food parlors during street parades.

I run into two zips as well as Gerardo Spata at Bocca Al Lupo in 2008.

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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
and vinny butch isnt skipper.his uncle has his dads oldcrew.

wink wink


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jimmy 'from elizabeth street' runs the mason tenders. hes not in little italy just to 'hang out'.

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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
Is just a place where they own businesses and extort food parlors during street parades.

I run into two zips as well as Gerardo Spata at Bocca Al Lupo in 2008.


and get caught doing it.lol.

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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
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Is just a place where they own businesses and extort food parlors during street parades.

I run into two zips as well as Gerardo Spata at Bocca Al Lupo in 2008.


and get caught doing it.lol.


lol True.

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Maybe Lucali's Restaurant in Brooklyn, a few Bonanno crime family fights. De Robertis Pastry Shop in Manhattan, was a known hangout for the Gambino and Genovese families. John's Italian Restaurant in Manhattan, Rocco Valenti was whacked hear and was a known hang around for the Genovese crime family. Bari Restaurant Supply in Manhattan, Sal Avellino ate at this restaurant and his car was bugged here also Big Paul, Anthony Salerno and Tony Ducks once had a meeting here.

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lol.wiseguys can meet in china town if they want. it doesnt make 'cho fuk chinese' a social club.lol

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Originally Posted By: King
Maybe Lucali's Restaurant in Brooklyn, a few Bonanno crime family fights. De Robertis Pastry Shop in Manhattan, was a known hangout for the Gambino and Genovese families. John's Italian Restaurant in Manhattan, Rocco Valenti was whacked hear and was a known hang around for the Genovese crime family. Bari Restaurant Supply in Manhattan, Sal Avellino ate at this restaurant and his car was bugged here also Big Paul, Anthony Salerno and Tony Ducks once had a meeting here.

All true, King. It's also all ancient history. Today you have a better chance of meeting a fashion designer on Mulberry Street than a wiseguy. Make that a gay fashion designer.


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. Make that a gay fashion designer. [/quote]
Doesn't that make him a G pizzaboy? whistle

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My question is for sit. What is your take on the condition of the colomobo crime family? Also, do you ever think vincent asaro will get a shot at being boss in the future? Thanks for your insight on this forum.

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don,the colombos will survive just like they ever had.nothings changed.guys get arrested. its something you plan for.

and no.vinny wont be boss any time soon.just an internet rumor.

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Sit - Without going into specifics, I've always wondered if there is still THE neighborhood guy today? You know what I mean? Maybe not right on Mulberry Street or in Little Italy but any where? I've always heard about a widow needing to ask for help or somebody asking for a favor from THE guy back in the day. Is this part of a romanticized past or is there still a presence for those in legitimate need today? If there is - do they get the help? Thanks.

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Originally Posted By: Mark
Sit - Without going into specifics, I've always wondered if there is still THE neighborhood guy today? You know what I mean? Maybe not right on Mulberry Street or in Little Italy but any where? I've always heard about a widow needing to ask for help or somebody asking for a favor from THE guy back in the day. Is this part of a romanticized past or is there still a presence for those in legitimate need today? If there is - do they get the help? Thanks.
To answer your question "Yes" there are still plenty of wise guys operating out of ethnic Italian neighborhoods BUT I believe the old idea of the neighborhood don who mediates disputes between the residents is more of a thing of te past, But who knows

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Thanks, Tony. I always figured that somebody knew somebody that could help out if there was ever someone truly in need of help.

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